r/Thailand • • 1d ago

News Thailand eyes US$30 departure tax for tourists in revenue push

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/business/2026/10/13/thailand-eyes-us-30-departure-tax-for-tourists-in-revenue-push
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u/Prestigious_Sea_5121 1d ago

30 dollars to leave the country? Are they mad? Why don't they just start collecting taxes in the country properly first. They can start with themselves.

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u/Ok-Needleworker-3486 1d ago

Trying to push 450baht on entry as well. There's already an exit tax applied this just nearly doubles it.

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u/jonez450reloaded 1d ago edited 1d ago

30 dollars to leave the country?

Keep going - the government already charges a 1,120 baht passenger service charge at the top six airports, so it's $63.20 if you fly out,

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u/Prestigious_Sea_5121 1d ago

gosh, I didn't realise that.

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u/get_me_some_water 1d ago

Collecting tax isn't easy in developing nations. Half of the money goes in pocket of curruption before showing on books and everyone is well aware of that in the system.

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u/Prestigious_Sea_5121 1d ago

I know... I live here and see this all the time. In my view, it's a key reason why countries like Thailand have such a large income disparity and lack of public services.

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u/get_me_some_water 1d ago

I wouldn't go far as saying it's key reason but yeah it's one of the factors. Key reason is education and resources. There are countries with curruption and good public services, Sri Lanka is excellent example (few years ago theirs parliament was set on fire!). Educated Thais are excellent in maths and physics when schooling is done right. Unfortunately lack of education and opportunities is why many well to do girls end up in bar

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u/Prestigious_Sea_5121 1d ago

that's a good point, yes. But people are massively held back by the Thai system, I think. It suffocates them. Particularly young people. That's my feeling anyway. Young people are so frustrated. And I can understand them in many ways.

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u/Agreeable-Many-9065 1d ago

That’s crazy amount. Malaysia has a better policy, US$3/ day 

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u/TotallyInOverMyHead 1d ago edited 1d ago

To be fair: The Problem is NOT the amount (as you can see by other countries like US, Australia, NZ, Japan, etc using their ETA (and the likes, Conservation surcharges, etc). e.g. my european country charges an air passenger tax (500,1500, 2300 THB depending on distance), there is visitors tax in most cities and villages ( 40-220 THB/day) and a "stay@hotel-overnight-tax" (which is in most areas between 5-7.5% of the nightly rate - in my area that would be around: 150-400 THB/night )

The problem is that these things get brought up, then dont get implimented, then get brought up again, and every time with higher amounts ... and also in multiple annoucements for basically the same type of tax (entry by air vs exit by air for example)

Basically they are constantly telling tourists that are interested in that country and watch news about it once every couple of months : "When are you coming back ? We have a new fee for you". even if that fee may not exist yet. Same thing with the Visa Free changes. 1.5 Years they have been cooking on them, and had at least 3 changes, but generated Stories about these visa changes by targeted releases around 15 times in that timeframe.

Its like they are actively TRYING to drive their tourism sector into the ground. Maybe the land the hotels sit on are more valuable in the hands of other peoples. e.g. a gold course between the dolphin circle, walking street and 3rd road in Pattaya would be a thing to behold, wouldn't it ? Golf and swim at the same time ? Who would NOT want that. There are probably tourism centric areas in e.g. Chiang Mai, Koh Samui, and Phuket that have the same issue.

TL;DR: The Thai Government and TAT are keeping potential tourist with a vested interest in Thailand in an anxiety loop, and it keeps backfiering over and over.

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u/I-Here-555 1d ago

This. The proper way to introduce these fee hikes is in some buried rule change, as they're being implemented...ideally most people would see their ticket prices go up and blame geopolitics.

Publicizing it loudly and repeatedly like they do, before they start charging it or even if they don't... is madness.

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u/Prestigious_Sea_5121 1d ago

Yes, agree, good arguments

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u/OkBee2130 1d ago

They are broke and desperate.

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u/lowkeytokay Thailand 1d ago

You are so wrong. They are not broke. If they were broke, they would actually collect taxes, cut on a large portion of government jobs (almost everyone work in some government body 🤯), reform the pension system, etc. They are just lazy to do real reforms because they don’t want to do anything remotely unpopular. Keep people employed (government jobs) guarantees not losing votes at the next election. Taxing a bunch of foreigners is politically easier than taxing Thai people. The pension system should really be reformed, but it’s still a long term problem, leave it to future governments to solve.

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u/hootix 1d ago

Tourism isn't recovering as before. Also they already thought about increasing VAT to 10% from 7% because they are broke. But the timing made it push completely back (fuel, high Inflation etc).

How long they can hold it off, will be interesting to see

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u/lukkreung98 1d ago edited 1d ago

Plus they are already trying to downsize the beauracracy with a goal of 5% per year and asking older people to retire early and take pensions now.

Edit: And Increasing government debt.

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u/lowkeytokay Thailand 1d ago

I’ve heard that. They are planning to offer early retirement to government officers as a way to downsize. Still a concept of a plan… let’s see if it happens. Still lukewarm reforms, in my opinion. If they were really desperate, they would think about how to boost Thai economy. But all their “friends” are happy, so definitely not a priority… let’s just introduce a departure tax to foreigners.

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u/OkBee2130 1d ago

Bud, they are broke. Debt versus GDP. Household debt. Industries leaving. Foreign money going somewhere else because they may lose everything if the rules change. Tourism going cheaper places with less headaches. Ageing population. No babies born. On and On and On.....

Anyone with half a brain can see this country is crashing and the gravy train for the well connected and politicians is slowing down significantly if not coming to a halt.

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u/lowkeytokay Thailand 1d ago

What I poorly tried to say is that there is still so much room for the government to steer the country in a good direction - the economy and country is really in bad shape but still not in a critical position. And mostly I wanted to rant about the shitty drug dealer corrupt bootlicker government. Fuck Anutin and anyone who enabled him.

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u/I-Here-555 16h ago

They're on a negative trajectory, but they're far from broke like Greece or Argentina were at one point.

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u/GelatinousPumpkin 1d ago

This tax is for any tourists…including Thais….you wanna be a victim so bad 🤡

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u/Taxi-Shinawat 1d ago

If only it would be spent on tourism infrastructure. Knowing how Thailand works the money will end up in someone's pocket.

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u/chamanao_man 1d ago

those overpriced euro sportscars thanks to their own 300% import tax law and fancy moo baan homes don't pay for themselves now do they!

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u/CerealKiller415 1d ago

Many of those low quality overpriced moobaan homes flooded a few weeks ago. Developers didn't design in and build drainage

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u/chamanao_man 1d ago

won't stop thais from buying them though...how else will society know they're rich and have made it in life?

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u/naturalselectionmis 1d ago

I won't be able to afford leaving, so I guess I'll just stay here.

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u/valletta2019 Bangkok 1d ago

They quickly seem to have forgotten how bad covid was for tourism and how desperate they were. As someone who has been visiting for 8 years and living here for the past 5, it’s becoming harder and harder to justify holidaying here VS Vietnam where your money stretches far more

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u/Lashay_Sombra 1d ago

Those up top dont care about tourisim and never have, because few if any are actually involved in it, especially outside the chinese segment

They prefure markets they can capture and control, which is is why they loved the chinese tour groups even though it was small spend per individual 

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u/hootix 1d ago

Yep, they never learn.

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u/duhdamn 1d ago

Yep. Foreigner fatigue. I feel it deeply, daily. Thailand wants us out. Expats, tourists, all of us. After 10 years of spending a freaking fortune here every year, I’m damn close to a permanent departure. It’s certainly not some BS departure tax. It’s just abuse after abuse. The pros/cons analysis is just increasingly screaming, fuck this place.

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u/HMU2018 1d ago

This is a clear cut message for the cheap Charlie’s and begpackers.

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u/hextree 17h ago

It barely affects them, Thai citizens are the main demographic affected by this, they have to pay the $63 too whenever they want to travel.

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u/hextree 1d ago

It's $63 total, and it isn't 'for tourists', everyone pays it including Thai citizens.

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u/Prestigious_Sea_5121 1d ago

.. that makes it even worse, forcing your own population to pay to leave their country. WTF?

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u/hextree 1d ago

Yep, people are focusing on the wrong aspect, the fact that Thais have to pay it to go somewhere like Vietnam is nuts.

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u/Sci-meme 1d ago

At some point you won’t be able to solve all your problems by blaming/taxing foreigners. Quite interested to see what happens then.

It’s like inverse germany here, as far as how goverment handles foreigners . Either way it’s not good.

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u/Responsible_Half8368 1d ago

This is very short sighted, if you want to tax more add an entry tax. The last experience of a trip is remembered very strongly, and an unreasonably high exit tax will sour the visit, especially for families who will pay it for multiple people.

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u/mcjon77 1d ago

So if I don't pay I have to stay in Thailand? The government won't let me leave?

Oh No! Please don't do that to me.

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u/earinsound 1d ago

LOL. it gets added to your plane ticket.

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u/worldwidetrav 1d ago

Vietnam charges 25usd. They also charge 4usd everytime you fly domestically

Every country does this

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u/Kaszrak 1d ago

Big boss needs more cocked up concubines. Lol

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u/Indomie_milkshake 1d ago

I am sitting here trying to decide if that's a typo or not.

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u/Kaszrak 1d ago

Probably coked up too, but definitely cocked up.

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u/Ungcas 1d ago

The S500s are dated too. Need and upgrade to the S600 V12 engine.

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u/BJ_Fish2 1d ago

None of these things bother me, except if it's not included on the ticket. I don't want to line up and have to pay this stupid fee.

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u/Vegardu Edit This Text! 1d ago edited 1d ago

I thought they wanted to attract people with money! This is an incentive for the people here with no money to stay illegally and never leave! It's just some corrupt scheme to line the pockets of the powerful. Arrival fees I can understand, but this is blatant corruption or stupidity.

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u/7hiigh 1d ago

All this new money will help them build the country and help the low class in Thailand to become a better quality of life right? It won’t go directly into the corrupt pockets of politicians right??????

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u/bomber991 1d ago

It’s about $1200 for a round trip ticket for me. If it increases more then whatever. That’s probably the attitude they’re counting on but it is what it is.

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u/Charlie_in_Asia 1d ago

Most arrive visa free. Visa will run you $100-200 USD so a $30 exit fee and no visa fee is a deal

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u/Ok_Assistant_4784 1d ago

Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia and Vietnam they take money from Visa from most tourists. Thailand never did that.

Now they are finding a hidden way to make this money. In a way or another is all about the money.

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u/MikaQ5 1d ago

That are already charging 1120b to leave

This would be an additional charge

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u/Big_Concert3634 1d ago

Corruption is real in many country

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u/Spokane_Al 1d ago

Huge swaths of the country are populated in abject poverty. Thailand does what it can to squeeze a bit of additional revenue when and where it can.

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u/travelhiatus 1d ago

Just bring back 60 day tourist visa!!! Reducing to 30 and now charging us 😔

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u/ChevChelios33 17h ago

This is currently a draft measure undergoing public consultation...so just like anthing else. no one knows for sure

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u/Prestigious_Sea_5121 11h ago edited 11h ago

Thailand really is a kakistocracy in many ways. A government that just brazenly exploits anything it can for a bit of extra money. Of course, the worst thing is how they treat their own people like slaves paying slave wages. It's disgusting.

"Kakistocracies (literally, governments by the worst) proliferate in weak and disorganized political systems that repel the talented and attract the inept and most debased."

That does kind of fit to Thailand, meanwhile, I'm very sorry to say.

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u/str85 10h ago

Yes... its obviously better for the country if my 1000 tbh goes straight into the pockets of the elite instead of me spending it on local stores or restaurants 🙄

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u/CyroSwitchBlade 1d ago

The Philippines does this.. They call it an airport tax.

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u/mdsmqlk 1d ago

Thailand (and all other countries) has airport taxes too.

The Philippines does have a departure tax, for its own citizens. Does not apply to tourists.

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u/slamploober 1d ago

There is a fee for tourists who stay over 6 months in the Philippines, you need to go to an immigration office and pay for a certificate to leave the country, otherwise you can be denied leaving at the airport

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u/mdsmqlk 1d ago

Yep, that's a visa extension. Also a thing in Thailand, with the difference that most tourists can't stay for six months here in the first place.

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u/slamploober 1d ago

No, that's different. It's called an exit clearance certificate, and is an extra fee on top of the visa.

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u/mdsmqlk 1d ago

Indeed, there is. But it also applies to visa holders there, not just tourists.

Thailand has its own unique fee for them with the bizarre re-entry permit.

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u/phantomquiff 1d ago

I had to pay a fee flying out of Puerto Princesca, which I hadn't been expecting.

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u/CyrusT_999 1d ago

Thaksin's tax bill still hovers around 510,000,000.00 USD They need to put that to rest.

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u/Lordfelcherredux 1d ago

If this results in fewer begpackers and other whingers of various economic means I'm all for it.

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u/Daryltang Bangkok 1d ago

But is it a zero sum game?

Less “tourist” less money collected

Less money brought and spent in the country

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u/Arkansasmyundies 1d ago

Less than zero sum. But, the money collected goes into the ‘right’ people’s pockets, rather than spread diffusely through the economy.

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u/Daryltang Bangkok 1d ago

That’s why the first people who protest are the tour operators and etc

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u/hextree 1d ago

Thais have to pay it too.

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u/Jumba2009sa 1d ago

Begpackers and anyone that would rethink their trip because of 30$ is not bringing economic impact anyway.

They will stay in cheap hostels, eat cheap, do tour groups and free walking tours.

Maybe they will end up spending 1000$ in a month.

Or a tourist that just their hotel for a 5 night stay is 1000$?

There is no downside to this.

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u/Material-Grocery5478 12h ago

im middle road. Im staying for 3 weeks in a decent hotel. But if im being nickeled and dimed more and more in already scam land, why would I come back? That 30 extra is 3 or 4 days of lunch in veitnam. Ya its 30$ whatever but im already being scammed daily.

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u/cndn-hoya 🇹🇭 1d ago

This is when tourists go elsewhere

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u/ickN 1d ago

Yeah that $30 should disrupt all travel plans. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/cndn-hoya 🇹🇭 1d ago

In the early 2000’s, Thailand had a similar system whereby you would purchase your departure tax at an automated kiosk and it would print this for you.

Most countries have this tax levied at the time of purchasing an airline ticket, where it’s built in.

Some tourists will actually go elsewhere when they see something that is explicit like this.

It won’t affect you or me, but it will affect decisions ultimately, which is why it’s up for debate.

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u/hextree 17h ago

$63, and yes it will. A Thai family wanting to take a short holiday somewhere nearby like Vietnam has to pay an extra $63 per head, that will absolutely make a lot of people cancel their plans.

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u/ickN 17h ago

Thais who can’t spend 1,000thb (per the post title) per head aren’t going on vacations.

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u/hextree 16h ago

It's a 1000 increase to 2120 thb. This more than doubles the total cost of flight tickets to many nearby destinations.

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u/Equivalent_Bridge889 1d ago

What a negative stupid comments of non residential foreigners..

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u/Capable_Work_3563 1d ago

Greedy b*******ds....

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u/Jumba2009sa 1d ago

If someone can’t afford 30$ on leaving the airport then they shouldn’t be flying in the first place.

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u/botle 1d ago

It's not about affording it.

It's about every small extra thing like this pushing some small percentage of people to travel somewhere else.

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u/Jumba2009sa 1d ago

It’s 30 bucks. I spent more on chicken wings in a bar.

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u/botle 1d ago

It's disincentive. It's not about not affording it.

Someone somewhere will be looking at flights to Thailand and there is a psychological difference between 380 and 410 when you see it in the price list.

Everyone that travels internationally can afford 30 bucks, but every small increase has a proportional drop in demand. People end up going somewhere else.

Another important factor is how these news affect people's willingness to come to Thailand. News about extra taxes and decreased visa free entries and stays can give people a feeling that they are not welcome, and encourage them to go somewhere else. So it's not just about price.

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u/Jumba2009sa 1d ago

Good, because anyone that can’t get (or double think) a 410$ flight from - gasp 380$ - is not spending anyway and will be on a budget.

It is more beneficial to sort out the low cost traveller.

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u/botle 1d ago edited 1d ago

You're misunderstanding me.

You could be a person that could easily afford a 3000 flight, but still subconsciously pick a cheaper flight and end up somewhere else.

You can also get a feeling that you're unwanted in Thailand and go explore some other country.

This is not free money.

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u/Jumba2009sa 1d ago

You think someone on skyscanner picking the cheapest flight to Thailand knows there is a recent 30$ add on?
And do you think that someone looking at skyscanner would be like oh this got 30$ more expensive time to look at Malaysia instead?

To almost universally every tourist coming to Thailand they are coming to thailand not looking at the cheapest flight to a SE Asia destination.

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u/hootix 1d ago

This discussion comes up all the time when Thailand increases arrival tax or departure tax. This isn't just 30$. But on top of all the previous ones. Which seem to be a yearly to bi yearly thing now to increase. Iirc it's approaching 100$ now.

And this one again isn't only for foreigners, but Thais also have to pay for this departure tax.

Heck someone already showed that Thailand arrival/departure tax is the second highest cost on a plane ticket, not far under the fuel cost. Stop supporting this bullshit

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u/Jumba2009sa 1d ago

I don’t support high volume budget tourism.

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u/hootix 1d ago

Then you don't seem to like why Thailand had success to begin with and don't like the economy to be stimulated

Budget travelers stimulate the economy better, as they usually travel to multiple places and spend their money at various mom and pop stores. Money going to many different Thai businesses. better than a rich person staying at 1 resort and mostly eating at said resort.

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u/botle 1d ago

It's much better to have 4 backpackers staying in a local homestay and eating in a local family restaurant than 1 "quality" tourist in a corporate owned resort eating in the resort restaurant.

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u/botle 1d ago

Tourism is a flexible demand.

That means that a small change in price will create a small change in demand.

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u/EngineeringNo2984 1d ago

Tourism is competitive. This just adds to ticket price, which people consider when they choose a destination.

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u/ToMagotz 1d ago

They handed out money like a fucking sultan so they had to resort to this bs policy that will probably destroy more revenue in the long run.

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u/abelminded 1d ago

that'll solve the economy and everyone's crippling debt

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u/ChrisKeepsFlying 1d ago

They want the tourist to help the flood victims because they FAILED at that.

https://giphy.com/gifs/10Jpr9KSaXLchW

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u/tbhmoreadvanced 1d ago

Nope I won’t be paying that - you can’t kidnap me and hold me ransom

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u/yallapapi 1d ago

Jesus Christ it’s $30 why is in the news every day if $30 is expensive for you then stay home holy fuck

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u/Ok-Lawfulness3305 1d ago

I enter Bali on a entry visa. In Thailand I can use the Egate. Is there way of collecting money from those who can avoid the immigration line

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u/GeneralTang 1d ago

It'll probably be added onto flight tickets as a tax that the airline will then pay to Thailand

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u/Ok-Lawfulness3305 1d ago

That would make it alot more easier for everyone

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u/Ok-Needleworker-3486 1d ago

It already is for the existing tax, land borders currently don't pay it. Maybe that will change at some point though.

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u/wise_joe 1d ago

But then it's a tax for everyone including Thais, not just tourists. Their goal is to just fleece foreigners.

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u/mdsmqlk 1d ago

The proposed departure tax would be for everyone regardless of nationality.

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u/hextree 1d ago

The proposal is already for everyone including Thais. And it's an increase to $63, not just $30 which is what is already in place. This headline is misleading.