You won't believe the hilarious script bug I just caught. The teacher literally tells the class that homework is due by the end of class "tomorrow," which obviously means today has to be Monday through Thursday since nobody goes to school on Saturday. Cut to the very next scene that same night, and Ellie’s dad gets a frantic call from his buddy who just got locked up, begging him to come bail him out right now because if he doesn't, he has to sit in a cell all weekend long. That confirms 100% that it's Friday night, because if you get arrested on Friday, you're stuck waiting until Monday morning to see a judge. So unless this school has mandatory Saturday classes, that teacher just assigned homework due over the weekend! It's such a classic editing oversight—the writers probably cut out a scene in post-production and forgot to fix the dialogue, or two different writers wrote those scenes without even looking at a calendar

The question of. Future or Past Joel? is Deemed irrelevant.

Jocelyn Mettler (Abby’s face model) really won me over with her calm personality while watching her gaming streams. She seems like such a genuinely, mesmerizing, and modest person, the kind of person you’d simply enjoy spending time with. I wish there were more humble and charming people like Her.

She has often mentioned receiving hateful and negative messages from weird guys, and that was one of the reasons she stepped away from social media. She had been dealing with that kind of negativity for years, and it clearly caused her a lot of emotional discomfort. People really are idiots for insulting a real person just because they didn't like a character in a game.

I sometimes wonder what She's doing these days. I saw somewhere that she no longer works as a VFX artist and has moved into a normal office job. I also came across a Christmas vodcast interview with Her uploaded on another YouTube channel last year, although I think it might have been a reupload from 2022, I'm not sure.

A few years ago, she said that if The Last of Us Part III were ever made, they could potentially still use her old face model. However, She wasn't interested in continuing to work on the project on a larger scale after all the negative comments she received. She also felt that Abby's story had been explored enough and probably didn't need to continue as the main focus, although the character could perhaps appear in a smaller role.

I honestly hope everything is going well for Her and that one day She'll let us know what she's been up to.

Just a screenshot I took recently that I liked, decided I’d post it here to see what people thought

Do you think If Tess hasn't Supported Ellie Joel would have Followed Tess and then Ellie afterwards?

**Fan DLC Concept: The Last of Us — Bloodlines**
**What if we played as Tommy before the events of Part I?**
I’ve been thinking about a possible story DLC for The Last of Us, and I’d love to hear what other fans think.
My idea is called **The Last of Us: Bloodlines — The Miller Brothers**.
Instead of playing as Joel again, we would play as Tommy and experience the years following the outbreak in 2013, discovering how the Miller brothers became the people we meet in the first game.
**1. The beginning — 2013**
The story would begin shortly after Sarah’s death.
Joel and Tommy would try to save their loved ones and survive the collapse of society. But they would repeatedly fail, not only because of the infected, but also because of human cruelty: the military, raiders, and even people fighting for causes they believe are right.
These experiences would gradually change both brothers.
Joel would begin building an emotional wall around himself. He would become more ruthless and distrustful, eventually believing that trusting people only leads to suffering.
Tommy would also be deeply affected, but he would struggle to accept that survival is all that matters.
**2. The hunters — 2016**
Years later, the brothers would have become experienced survivors, participating in increasingly brutal acts to obtain food, weapons, and other resources.
Tommy would use his skills as a marksman to cover Joel from a distance. This could give the gameplay its own identity, with more emphasis on precision shooting, observation, and cooperation.
However, Tommy would gradually become uncomfortable with the people they rob and kill. Some of their victims would be innocent survivors who simply happened to cross their path.
Joel would see these actions as necessary for survival. Tommy would begin questioning what they had become.
**3. The Fireflies — 2018**
Tommy would eventually encounter the Fireflies and meet Marlene, discovering a movement that claims to be fighting for a better future.
The Fireflies wouldn’t be portrayed as perfect heroes. They would have their own contradictions, questionable decisions, and moral compromises.
Through Marlene, Tommy could also meet Anna, Ellie’s mother and Marlene’s close friend.
Anna would be a strong and hopeful character who, despite everything she had endured, still believed that humanity could build something better. Her perspective would help Tommy realize that survival doesn’t have to mean abandoning every moral principle.
For the first time in years, Tommy would begin to believe in something beyond simply staying alive.
**4. The breaking point — 2019**
The emotional climax would come after Joel commits an especially brutal act of violence to obtain resources.
Tommy would realize that his brother no longer sees any limits to what he is willing to do. He would decide that he cannot continue living this way and announce that he intends to join the Fireflies.
Their separation wouldn’t be quiet or peaceful. It would be a brutal argument between two brothers who still love each other but can no longer accept each other’s choices.
Tommy would accuse Joel of using survival as an excuse for his cruelty. Joel would accuse Tommy of being naive and trusting people who would eventually get him killed.
Tommy would finally tell Joel that he refuses to become the same kind of person.
Joel would refuse to change and tell Tommy to leave.
**Tommy wouldn’t lose his brother because he stopped loving him, but because love alone couldn’t convince Joel to choose a different path.**
**5. Anna and Marlene — A connection to Ellie**
The story could conclude with Tommy learning more about Anna and her relationship with Marlene.
A final sequence could connect the DLC to Ellie’s birth and the promise Marlene made to her dying friend.
Tommy’s presence during these events would be a creative addition to the story rather than an established part of the official timeline, but it could provide an emotional connection to the main games.
It would show that the histories of Tommy, Joel, Ellie, and Marlene were already connected long before the events of Part I.
**6. Watching the outbreak evolve**
One of the things I’d love most is seeing the world change over several years.
We could witness the collapse of society, the rise and fall of quarantine zones, the growth of different factions, the spread of infected, and nature gradually reclaiming abandoned cities.
The environments, weapons, resources, and communities would evolve as time passed.
The outbreak wouldn’t just be a backdrop. It would actively shape the brothers and influence the choices they make.
**7. Why I think this could work**
For me, the heart of this DLC would be the relationship between Tommy and Joel.
They would experience the same tragedies, lose many of the same people, and face the same cruel world. Yet they would reach opposite conclusions about what it means to survive.
Tommy would continue searching for a better future, while Joel would build an emotional wall so strong that he would eventually reject the possibility of changing.
This could add another layer to the trilogy:
**Part I:** Joel finds something worth loving again through Ellie.
**Part II:** We witness the consequences of his choices and the cycle of violence.
**Bloodlines:** We discover how Joel became the man we know, through the eyes of his brother, who ultimately chose a different path.
I wouldn’t want this to be a collection of disconnected flashbacks. I’d want a complete narrative DLC with its own central storyline, meaningful character development, and a painful conclusion.
To me, *Bloodlines* would be a story about two brothers who survive the same apocalypse but are changed by it in completely different ways.
Sometimes, losing someone doesn’t mean they have died. It means they have become someone you can no longer follow.

**This is just a fan-made concept, not a leak or an official project.**
**Would you play this DLC? What would you change or add to the story?**

Hey everyone, can someone tell me how I can disable this information in the corner of the screen?

Love this theme so much. Hope u like it!

Imagine Part 3 opens with Ellie waking up from a hyper-realistic nightmare. She rushes to find Joel, who's still alive, she suddenly forgives him, and they get a chance to have the conversation they never got to have in Part 2, but Joel is still confused as to what caused this sudden forgiveness from Ellie. They spend some good time together doing random shit.

The game then follows Ellie as she struggles with these increasingly disturbing dreams and nightmares. They're so realistic that she starts having difficulty distinguishing them from reality, making everyday life increasingly difficult. She then eventually explains what's happening to her and the dreams she had to joel/tommy/maria. They decide that they need to find an expert doctor to help Ellie. It then turns out then that the to the Cordyceps in her brain are causing this weird thing to happen.

The main plot of Part 3 could initially revolve around Ellie, Joel, Tommy, and Maria trying to find a way to control the Cordyceps in her brain and stop it from affecting her mind then other shit happens that has to do with immunity/the cure/etc/finding other immune people/other intersting stories.

I know this would basically retcon the events of Part 2, but imagine the possibilities. It would give us a chance to explore Ellie's trauma, bring Joel back into the story, and build a completely different narrative around the infection itself.

What do you guys think? I just fucking hate part 2, fuck it I cannot accept it hahahahahhaa

Team Abby here! I personally hate joel. I love Ellie but I HATE joel. The first game playing as Joel was fun but after Ellie started resenting Joel because hes a big selfish liar made me resent him too. I like Abby because she killed him. His time was up anyway ngl. I mean as Ellie said he crossed a lot of people. He got what he deserved. Not sure why people hate Abby so much. Its not like you were playing as him for the 4 year time gap and got to know him so much. The fireflies were going to make a cure to save everyone and they had all the resources, the vaccine-maker surgeon guy(Abbys dad), the numbers. All they needed was Joel to bring Ellie there and Joel for gun. I get that Ellie really couldnt have had a choice there but even when she explained her choice Joel invalidated her feeling which makes him selfish. He only saved Ellie because of grief of his other daughter who had died and he didnt want to go through that again. Human, yes. Moral, not by one bit. And as the firefly person said Ellie likely will just die by a clicker one day(cannonically) since obviously the infection is only getting worse. They had a shot to end it but Joel got in the way. That was there only shot to catch it earliest at 20 years. Unless if they someone rebuild technology and advancement to get someone smart enough to engineer a vaccine and carry out such a delicate procedure, the next chance they have is likely hundreds of years from that if the world isnt already donezo.

If anything seems off please call me out. Dont take any of it personal.

I know this question has probably been asked a million times and there has been a few hints by credible sources here and there. But what’s the chances there will actually be a third?

I actually think the ending was perfect in many ways and open for interpretation. I’d be happy if there was never another game, but I also would love it there was another game.

What do we think?

@ luuuvsiiick

Just wanted to recommend her channel in this thread, she's become one of my favorite creators on YouTube. She's a game developer and does deep dives/video essays/reactions of different video games, but heavily on TLOU. Her analysis series of TLOU is so so good, she talks about different perspectives of character, how the story represents the art of storytelling, the psychological elements of the story and the characters, etc.

I'm a massive fan of TLOU and I love her videos. If you're a big TLOU fan and like commentary/analysis/video essays, I'd highly highly recommend.

If the link doesnt work, her name on YT is Sapphixated.

(I am not this youtuber, this isnt a self promotion)