r/SipsTea • • 19h ago

SMH The advice didn't age well.

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u/Adorable_Echo_4317 19h ago

Just walk into a skyscraper, hand out your resume in person and become CEO in 2 weeks.. what's so hard to understand? You're all just lazy.

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u/Loud-Ad-2280 18h ago

Don’t forget the firm handshake

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u/MagicalKitteenn 18h ago

Firm handshake +looking the boss in the eye = CEO by next Tuesday. Science

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u/Dgp68824402 17h ago

Don’t forget to wear the proper Power Tie.

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u/valthonis_surion 17h ago

And don’t take no for an answer.

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u/za72 15h ago

don't forget to dress for the job you wants

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u/udreamtofmelstnite 9h ago

So if I want to be a successful cardiac surgeon it’s blue scrubs and blood while I deliver mail until I’m promoted?

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u/jallisy 8h ago

Exactly. With a firm handshake and a succinct introduction at the ready.

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u/za72 6h ago

a reach-around never hurts

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u/Anfitruos0413 5h ago

Trously Saientificoal

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u/Blofeld_ 18h ago

Look them in the eyes..

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u/CrimsonAntifascist 16h ago

Bang their wife and/or husband.

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u/Aggravating-Major531 12h ago

Boss avoids eye contact, rushes to office, fabricates story about you

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u/farfaraway 15h ago

Start in the mailroom!

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u/nosepickered 14h ago

Day bow bow

(Ch-chika chikaaaaaa)

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u/WickedLordSP 6h ago

I literally got this suggestion by a boomer when I was unemployed in Covid

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u/jallisy 8h ago

And the 1-minute elevator pitch

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u/Secret_Hyena9680 10h ago

And tell them you’ll be the best employee they’ll ever have.

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u/ecovironfuturist 17h ago

You want to go to grad school to do what?? Just go sweep up around the office someone will give you some work to do.

And it literally worked that way for them. It was codified as apprenticeships or interns or pages or copy boys...

I know one person who made the transition from sweeping up to six figure career. He's a great guy and totally deserving, everybody loved him and he's smart and hard working, but I'm also 100% sure the people who gave him the shot felt great about themselves for doing it - and they should! But times have changed and people are looking for diamonds in the rough, or if they are the "rough" is the ivy league.

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u/Buckeyebornandbred 15h ago

As late as the 90s, movies still had scenes of the "mailroom" where aspiring white men worked hard to try to climb out of the basement and get higher on the corporate ladder. I'm sure some mailrooms still exist, but that "career path" does not. Nobody is exhibiting company loyalty like that anymore and no company is loyal enough to its employees to give them a second glance. Truly an unrecognizable world compared to where we live. Remember movies with company picnics? Christmas parties? Christmas bonuses? They are still in movies but don't really exist anymore either.

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u/grendus 13h ago

Most companies don't even give their employees a subscription to a Jelly of the Month club.

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u/PretendCoach5710 11h ago

No but you often get forced fun team building. Thats worth more than a raise or better benefits

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u/awaterujin 9h ago

the gift that keeps giving

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u/daehoidar 4h ago

They got to live in the culture/society/economy that their parents built for them.

We get to live in the culture/society/economy that they built.

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u/RDLAWME 14h ago

Every office I've worked at has had a mail room, holiday party, and year end bonuses 

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u/Alexyogurt 7h ago

tell me you stopped reading a comment after the first sentence without telling me

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u/RDLAWME 7h ago

If you read the comment I responded to, youll see that I am directly responding to assertions in the last few sentences (that these things exist in old movies but not in real life anymore). 

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u/Alexyogurt 7h ago

and that comment literally said "I'm sure mailrooms still exist." Extrapolate form that data.

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u/RDLAWME 6h ago

You fudged the quote so that it supports your argument. 

They said "I'm sure SOME mailrooms still exists" suggesting that they are some rare phenomenon. 

The comment also clearly suggests that the other items (holiday parties and year end bonuses) are the stuff of movies and not real life. 

Take the L and move on. 

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u/Alexyogurt 6h ago

because i didnt go back and read and was quoting from memory, i accidentally omitted the word "some," which doesn't change the overall meaning of the phrase in the slightest. they are still admitting that mailrooms exist. Yo u take the L and move on.

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u/ecovironfuturist 4h ago

Are you an actor?

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u/MadHiggins 16h ago

boomers got where they are due to the generosity and kindness of the generation above them. the reason people have problems today is that boomers are now "the generation above" and they are endlessly greedy and cruel. a boomer would never give a sweeper a job, they'd call the police on the sweeper and lie about them having a gun to 911

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u/Everyone_dreams 14h ago

My father has a high school degree. Some college classes he made C in and got his break working at an airport sorting baggage.

He rode that into a 40+ year career where he became a director.

If you hired someone into the same role today they would never be allowed to meaningfully change positions.

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u/Few_Swan_3672 9h ago

Talking to someone in a C level position recently who worked their way up from ~1989 from an entry level. The org happens to be hiring a equal level job. Said VP level literally does not qualify for his job. He has a BS, now requires MBA and years of experience leading similar sized teams in a similar sized org, growing in size over time to match your title, etc. These people do not seem to grasp that they would no longer be hired for the job they walked in off the street and filled out a paper application for.

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u/Everyone_dreams 7h ago

Agreed. It’s even stranger when I talk to my father. He recognizes that people would never be hired with the same qualifications he had because he lead the teams that negotiated with the unions for their contracts. So he knows exactly what it takes to get hired and what it takes to switch jobs.

At the same time he doesn’t believe that young people have it harder because for a brief moment in the early 1980s the interest rate to buy a home was sky high. And the city (or county?) set up a program to ensure people like him and my mom could borrow money to afford a home. And other stuff like that. And no facts I show him can change his mind.

The fact I reached making 100k was huge to him, never mind the fact it was far less money than he’s was making buying power wise in the 90s.

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u/BrianNowhere 17h ago

Someone should make a civ video-game where you can try to make it in different eras with the same character. The 50's would be easier in many ways but probably harder in others. Would be interesting to explore.

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u/Nowhere_Man_Forever 16h ago

One thing to keep in mind- when people talk about how easy things were for the boomers they are talking specifically about white people. I guarantee you no black person would trade places with their grandparents.

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u/Freshness518 15h ago

Yeah, society's memories are clouded with survivorship bias. Sure, all the straight white men could walk in an get a job with a handshake. Because they weren't competing in the market with: blacks, gays, women, foreigners, Jews, Catholics, etc etc etc. And now today we see all the healthy successful boomers still kickin around. Where are all the poor ones? They died in Vietnam. Or they came home from Vietnam with PTSD and no support and became homeless and died in the streets. Or they died in the AIDS epidemic. Or they drove through the wrong sundown town in the south and got lynched. Or said the wrong words during a traffic stop. So many of the fringe populations experienced incredible turmoil and hardships.

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u/Cross55 8h ago edited 7h ago

Sure, all the straight white men could walk in an get a job with a handshake.

It was incredibly easy for white women, modern ones just try to claim a victimhood that didn't really exist

One of my neighbors growing up was a boomer elementary school teacher, her pension was a more a year than I make in a decade. She tried getting me to become a teacher because of the salary and benefits she still thought existed in the 2010's.

Yeah, her and her husband were a 2 income Boomer household and could afford a 3 story mansion on a commissioned officer and teacher's salary.

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u/Unknown-714 15h ago

Would argue any minority would have it extremely hard in different eras

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u/Seriously_you_again 2h ago

You could probably lump most women into that category of not wanting to trade places with the women in the 1950s.

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u/BrianNowhere 16h ago edited 16h ago

Very true.

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u/minskoffsupreme 12h ago

White, straight, males predominantly.

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u/Cross55 8h ago

Yeah, but 80% of the US population was white, so yeah...

Even most of Europe or China in the modern era can claim.a nationwide success like that

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u/Universe-Queen 11h ago

LOVE this idea!

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u/jallisy 8h ago

I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

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u/Paavo_Nurmi 13h ago

My Uncle did that, went from bottom to plant manager at a factory.

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u/Hairy_Mycologist_945 14h ago

It really was like this. One of my neighbors growing up, this is the 1980s, had started off making french fries in the late 60s at a major fast food chain and became some sort of corporate big wig within like a decade because he was a "good communicator" and ended up retiring at like 55 and filthy rich. Just a very different game.

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u/micro_Ampere 10h ago

Man, my old boss was like that. He started as the delivery driver! He literally just worked his way up into ownership and retired at 70 something making a cool $20 million selling his company. Good for him, and yet the delivery drivers he hired were making about $25/hour and he certainly wasn't looking to promote them to managers or directors.

Obviously there's more to the story than that, but within two generations the dream of starting at the bottom and ending up at the top simply does not happen anymore.

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u/ecovironfuturist 4h ago

A former CEO of Verizon used to work as a linesman climbing telephone polls. And it's not like it can't happen, it's just that it used to be quite common, that was how you climbed the ladder and proved yourself. Not so much anymore.

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u/Strawberry_Letter_27 5h ago

College, Army, and starting a career with actual experience still required Affirmative Action to get a whiff at the bottom rung of the corporate ladder for some of us. Thankfully, there were a lot of opportunities. Unfortunately, my kids have it far worse, even with better education. It basically sucks for everyone now.

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u/Overgrown_Apple 15h ago

Things must have been pretty good before NAFTA and before mass 3rd world immigration.

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u/I_Hate_IPAs 14h ago

If you think those are the causes I have a bridge to sell you.

Boomers had unrivaled social mobility and squandered it for the following generations out of greed. NAFTA and immigration aren’t the reason you can’t afford to live from a decent job you work your way up in… greed is.

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u/Overgrown_Apple 14h ago

Yeah flooding the country with tons of cheap labor surely has no impact on wages. How could I be so stupid?

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u/I_Hate_IPAs 13h ago

Things have been going downhill since before “flooding” the country.

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u/jimbo2150 18h ago

Then get replaced by AI a week later.

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u/freesaleche 18h ago

Don't forget to wear a tie while security escorts you out

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u/SassieBreezyy 17h ago

And don't forget to thank them for the opportunity to work for free while you're at it

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u/GreenStrong 14h ago

With a FIRM HANDSHKE! Then the AI replacing you will know you're management material.

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u/dontrelyonme 15h ago

I did this to a local library and was told to browse their website for opportunities instead. Walked out with no job, wonder what did I do wrong🤔

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u/Crunchykroket 4h ago

When my dad was complaining I walked into a temp agency with job ads on the windows. And then they told me I have to look on their website instead.

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u/Crazy__Donkey 18h ago

Been there Done that. Now in pension at 45.

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u/Final_Squirrel_7462 14h ago

I actually did that. 10 years ago and it a smaller company. I saw on the website that they needed web developers. I put on a nice shirt, went to their shop, was lucky that the owner was there and convinced him to give me a chance. It was a $10/h job in the beginning, but eventually I earned much more and used the experience to get a much better paid job at a different company. I am still in contact with the old owner and help out pro bono on smaller fixes. I am now earning a good six figure salary, which is insane when 10 years ago I was living from $300/ month at my moms place.

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u/SophieMasloff 10h ago

These comments are as bad as the boomers hot takes.

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u/CINAPTNOD 8h ago

"What happened to just knocking on doors?"

-- My dad every time watching me submit my resume online for the thousandth time.

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u/JustYourNeighbor 16h ago

Hahaha, just start out on the mailroom.

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u/Trevor-Reznik- 16h ago

People just need to grind and hustle more! That's what Gary V tells me anyway...

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u/Soulsfarmer 16h ago

Working out that way just fine for the “Zillennials” apparently.

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u/lnTheGrimDarkness 15h ago

My father used to tell me this unironically. At least he helped me realize that I would have achieved only anguish and poverty by following his advice and that I should use my own head.

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u/djnw 14h ago

They’re forgetting the shiny shoes!

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u/nickiter 13h ago

As seen in the documentary How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying.

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u/JabroniCarbone 10h ago

Nah totally disagree with this bullshit. My parents are boomers and they worked hard and had discipline. We probably ate out twice a year and holidayed in the same place every year, which we only started doing when I was like 10. They worked in their own business outside my dad’s 9-5 job to save money to put 3 kids through private school. They lived within their means and still live frugally, although now they’re retired they are travelling a lot because they never did that in their 20s, 30s, or 40s. Yes shit is expensive now but people also spend money to pay someone to deliver their lunch to their home rather than making a sandwich or buy out lunch daily. I still remember my dad making sandwiches and freezing them in bulk to take to work. When he started buying lunch at like 50 years old we all thought he was being a bit fancy.

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u/Altruistic_Brick1730 7h ago

That's how the boomers did it according to Reddit.

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u/brendan84 3h ago

I mean, this is actually pretty good advice if you don't hyperbolize it. Change "walk into a skyscraper" into, network in a big city. Change "hand your resume in person" into give your resume to people you know. Change "become a CEO in two weeks" into i have a great idea for a business. Change "you're all just lazy" to... nothing. The people who whine about not being able to get ahead are lazy. That's why they don't get ahead while hard working, ambitious people continue to get ahead.

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u/adog231231 2h ago

To me it was like the absurd confidence but total separation of reality of even applying to jobs at a certain point. Like qualified people that probably couldn't even type their own resume.

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u/darkforestnyc 16h ago

Nobody wants to work anymore.