Hi non main here,

I swear right after the rework the max order was Q>E>W, I tried reading thru the patch notes and didn't really understand which specific change caused her to max W 2nd. Was it the loss of the bonus AD ratio?

Hey guys! I just recently started maining Shyvanna (after being a fiddle main for few years) and she is amazing!

I had a hard time finding a champ I would like as much as I do Fiddle, and this one it is!

I'm still not sure about builds tho. I see a lot of players going for completely different items.

And not much guides on yt talking about build options (or already outdated, items get change a lot).

From what I have understood, there are basically 4 types to build her

1) Bruiser

2) AP

3) On-hit (kraken, dask and dawn etc)

4) Tank-ish

Or mix

So far I have tried mostly bruiser build and it seems to be reliable into most maches.

Tried on-hit once. It was fun, the Q reset is insane and it's probably best build for 1v1 fights.

Teamfights are harder tho, you get stun lock and delete much easier.

Didn't yet try ap or tank

So what are the options to build here? What are pros and cons of different builds?

And which build excel into what comp? (Both of enemy and ally)

Any tips will be really helpful!

Thanks in advance!

Is she a good champ to pick up for auto fill jg and maybe top games? I am kata otp but sadly she cant be flexed jg and her top lane matchups are not the greatest. This champ looks fun and her true dmg on ult is nasty. What is she good at and what should I ban if I play her?

I'm not getting boneclaw at full price LMAOOOOO

I know I didn't play great in some but my whole team is feeding it feels. I was B2 matching with golds and they were worse than me???

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/oce/IrONmAn1474-OC

UPDATE: WON THE FIRST ONE OF THE DAY 🥲

My full team was: @realbonevoid jungle, @snowball + @shyvadi mid/top, @rosealune adc, @yuululol sup

full vod for finals here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2897370936?tt_content=vod&tt_medium=mobile_web_share

I practiced and learned so much so quickly it really threw me through a loop. What I learned about shyv in lane is critical, like how pta is no question the required rune for 90% of cases no matter what lane you're in.

Runes:

Ultimate haste is critical, although when you need it is up to your lane opponent and the game state.

All builds use PTA > Triumph > legend:haste > cut down with different secondary

Hexplate > Trinity with ult hunter for when you're against a ranged matchup or a matchup when you will perma lose unless you ult them

Trinity > hexplate with ult hunter in cases when you're stronger then the opponent and can outtrade them without ult, trinity is higher damage early so its better to abuse this.

Other viable options: Trinity > Shojan with ult hunter if you're against a scaling matchup where laning is not a deciding factor of the game.

Trinity > Shojan with Unflinching + shield bash if you're against any longer then 2s cc scaling/hyper carry champ like chogath/k'sante/renekton/riven

I (a newbie) challenged myself to get an S Rank game the only way I knew how, with Dragon champions only. Shyvana Jungler was the first I did back in May.

https://x.com/anianocula

I always wanted to make something so that the Shyvmain community has more to work with and we all become better players together. <3

I'm a plat shyvana player and wanted to ask why hexplate isnt built second over shojin. Seems way more gold efficient, and I thought the on release hexplate hype was because of the broken ult haste.

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/eune/Sc%C3%A1th-%C3%89irin

Please ignore my overall win rate as I did a lot of testing champs and tanked my MMR. Would be happy to give anyone else looking to escape that shithole some advice if I can.

I was curious what other counters exist to shyvana jungle outside of sylas. I’ve heard Udyr is good. I was also thinking maybe Olaf could be decent. Yi doesn’t sound bad, you can dodge her fear with Q then just AA her to death. Similar with tryndamere. What do you guys think?

Which better

I asked for some help the other day, and thanks to the community had the courage to give TF another try. I think I can see the vision now, and may have found a place that I prefer it over kraken.

Thanks for the help everyone!

helppp I still don't get what to build

I haven't played LoL in the last 2 years so im outsider and wanted to try out Shyvana again. After playing 5 matches, she feels... slow ?

Old Shyvana's animations were stupidly fast, she could nuke people with on-hit builds, and her wave clear was incredibly smooth with Tiamat. Right now, she feels like a generic juggernaut with no real upsides—basically like Camille without any mobility. She can't nuke two or three people to orbit anymore, she has a shield and fear on ult, i guess ?

She also feels so sluggish I can't even describe it, offering no real advantages and just dealing less damage than before. Am I the only one who feels this way? She's basically just a mediocre champion now with no real identity but a occasional pick for counterplay, im not saying she is bad but she doesnt have any punchy upside or adrenaline moments that makes you smile, it feels like sett,ambessa or aatrox.

I did really loved eating towers in seconds, clear like a bulldozer and occasionally delete grouped people from existence on team fights, also older human form was not this much hopeless.

edit: i was talking about nuking people with Q that hits two or more times when enemies were too close

I've compiled most of the data and organized it (my old uni turned off my SPSS license so I'm having to do a fair amount of this the slow way). At this point I'm a couple of pages into the writeup and going through the open-ended responses. You guys have a lot to say about things lol.

I don't have a specific timeframe since I have work, streams, etc.; but I'll probably be working on this over the weekend to try to get it out. I'm trying to put as many sources and such together as I can to make this as legit as possible, so I'm trying not to rush it too much.

Thanks again for the support!