r/PowerScaling • • 10h ago

Discussion 2026 Africa beats 1939 Europe and it’s barely even a conversation.

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The manufacturing problem:
1930’s Europe’s manufactured capabilities would be crippled within hours. Egyptian bombers which include Tupolev Tu-16 (Badger) and Ilyushin Il-28, alongside various fighter-bombers like the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17, Sukhoi Su-7, Mirage 5, and F-16 Fighting Falcon would not only take out a vast majority of manufacturing infrastructure but likely all administrative infrastructure and naval facilities as well. It’s not up for discussion if 1939 weaponry is capable of shooting down any of those jets let alone be at the same altitude and speeds they operate in.

The “small arms” problem:
Nothing from 1939 compares to high velocity fully automatic rifles packing 30 round magazines. Any WW2 tactic would be rendered obsolete by endless Guerilla tactics with each african soldier having the killing power of 10-15 men per magazine.

The difference in heavy ordnance:
This one’s a bit simpler to understand when looking back to WW1s battle between Germany vs the Belgium city of liége. The “Big Bertha” shot larger rounds in a larger distance that counter artillery couldn’t reach which shattered over 100 years of unbreakable military doctrine in hours. The logic is the same with modern African artillery, the moment European artillery is fired, counter artillery will devastate it at a distance where it can’t fight back. This also applies to tank warfare, even if there are some Cold War era tanks that could theoretically be destroyed by WW2 tanks or artillery, they simply can not operate on the same distance or speed.

The “reverse engineering” rebuttal:
It’s no question that there will be a few outliers of tanks, aircraft, and boat craft that will be destroyed. In Americas decades in Iraq, the most powerful tanks that physics can allow still got destroyed (mostly by friendly fire or bad driving). The simple fact is that Europe wouldn’t know how to build any of it. They wouldn’t have the African colonies for rare earth metal resources nor do they have the manufacturing capability, it would be a multi-year project to make a small handful which is time they don’t have. Also assuming they don’t get blown up in the process.

The “technology gap”:
Even with crippled manufacturing and a blown up navy. There’s still well over 100,000 aircraft at once with an additional 67 million soldiers (including the Asian part of the USSR for pity points) this would be against the 9 largest military powers in Africa equating to 2.7 million soldiers with 3,093 virtually untouchable aircraft, 7,400 untouchable tanks, 6,000 artillery, 1,959 ariel drone craft (UAV’s) with 219 companies supplying endless drones for drone warfare. When you look at each weapons capabilities, 2.7 million soldiers are enough to hold ground and they have enough ammunition to kill well over tens of millions of soldiers while maintaining complete air superiority from South Africa to the Mediterranean

The Reality Check:
All of this is assuming Europe drops all ideology and unites under a single globalist agenda while Africa continues to have its current geopolitical situation while losing its world trade. Historically several European nations lost to Africa in 1939 and lost every liberation civil war that followed before, during and after WW2 To actually believe modern day Africa actually loses to 1939 Europe is mostly based in racist assumptions and lack of knowledge in the capabilities of modern tech vs non modern weaponry


r/PowerScaling • • 18h ago

Discussion Do people really think Saitama doesn’t make it past DBZ?

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I’m not sure why I’m seeing a flux of people saying Saitama can’t get past cell saga or he “hard stops” at buu saga, like how are you hard stopping the man with no limiter?

If anything the battles should be their most difficult at the beginning and if he feels any sort of passion then the battles should just get progressively easier until it’s a low/no diff fight. OR growing isn’t required because he is already going to start the battle low/no diffing


r/PowerScaling • • 15h ago

Scaling Steve is 11-A. High Hypoverse level

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Everything in the game is canon.

Gravity only loosely exsists in minecraft. Blocks weigh nothing. Items phase between the 3d and 2d world.

The world is flat. There is an up and down but limited by magical barriers.

Steve can carry a lot. So can everyone else too. Endermen carry blocks with ease too. Villagers more too.

Somethings do have an attraction down, but only sometimes. Most of these are when they go from their 3d form to their 2d form. The world is barely bursting out of its 2d base.

Sand and a few other things do have a downwards attraction even in 3d form, but not matching gravity. They are not solid. They are litterally phasing between 3d and 2d. Steve can die inside a sand block.

Steve can manipulate 2d objects magically through crafting. Even in his pocket. This is where the high Hypoverse comes from. He can create 2d objects out of thin air. The world, bursting out of 2d to 3d, forms these into 3d objects.

There is no real air. Not much else shows air resistance. From carts to arrows. Its a weak attraction to down, no resistance. Fire does not need air, its endless. Rain only goes down. Its like the sand. A semi 2d block steve phases through. Water can be endlessly made.

The clouds and sun are phased further out.

Steve exsists on a small plain where gravity's force is weak compared to others. Its like he is on a sheet of paper. The resistances and attractions of atoms is more powerful.

Steve can craft a door instantly from 2d objects. But struggles to destory the 3d version.

The end. The void. Shows no real answer.

The nether, below, the beginning of this world. Trapped inside.

The overworld is in limbo breaking out. The cloud, the sun. Its becoming real.

The end, is the enderdragon trying to complete the process? Is steve the bad guy stopping the world fully transforming to 3d?

Enderman can teleport. A 4d like travel in a 2d/3d world.

Steve can jump time with a bed. The 4th dimension. Or even in creative.

Is this why beds don't explode in his world? Steve controls time. God of his 2d world but loses control of those who've made a way to escape? won't complete the process. Destorying the Enderdragon trying to truely make a 3d universe in the void.

Steve is a 2d god in a barely 3d world. He is High Hypoverse tier.


r/PowerScaling • • 18h ago

Discussion "Mahoraga can only adapt to phenomenon not concepts😂" mfs when you told them everything observable on fiction is a phenomenon

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r/PowerScaling • • 6h ago

Crossverse Goku vs daredevil.

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Goku (db)

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Captain universe daredevil (marvel)


r/PowerScaling • • 15h ago

Scaling Thragg scales much higher than people think

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Okay so I see a lot of people putting Thragg(Invincible) at mountain Level with supersonic combat speed. And I’m here to explain why that’s not true.

So we know that the Viltrum destruction feat took 3 Viltrumites and a destabilized core. This being said however, The individual force needed to destroy a planet the size of Viltrum after the core was destabilized in the way it was requires small planetary force. And because the series creator stated that he designed the moment with the intention of showcasing the power of viltrumites it’s safe to say they did most of the work. And since the show replaces the line about dying on impact with Nolan saying he pushed a planet, and because Thragg is so much stronger in the show then he is in the comic, Thragg has enough narrative and physical evidence to place him at small-mid planetary AP. And that directly scales to his DC because using one’s body to destroy a planet requires the durability to not splatter on impact.

Now for speed. We know that Space Racer’s bike is mftl+ based on statements and onscreen feats. We also know that the trail of Space Racer’s bike gets wider the more throttle is put into it. When Thragg chases him down the trail of the bike is wide meaning it’s at full speed. Since Thragg is keeping up and reacting to Space Racer firing his gun at him this means he has the capability to fight and react at mftl+ speeds.

In short Thragg is the GOAT and WE are all cracking


r/PowerScaling • • 22h ago

Discussion why do people argue shinobu beats tengen?

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im pretty sure gyutaro and daki would easily beat shinobu and would prob mid-high diff tengen and why do almost ALL shinobu glazers bring up speed but ignore the fact shes the weakest among the hashiras along with the fact they all might gap her in almost any skill other than attack speed im 100% sure tengen>shinobu easily at low-mid diff


r/PowerScaling • • 22h ago

Anime Bleach and naruto are closer than people think

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While yes bleach is the stronger verse its not as big a gap as people think

I’ve noticed how people downplay bleach to hill level and naruto is uni or say naruto only caps at like star or solar and bleach is multi

When in reality both verses are very strong

With naruto being around high uni
And bleach being low multi

Honestly the main thing that makes bleach well over naruto is the absurd hax that bleach possesses

This whole downplaying thing really is odd to me like do yall really need to see actual universes being nuked to believe it?

Statements databooks and chainscaling exist for a reason ya know?

Like by that logic goku isnt even planetary cuz he never nuked a planet but we all know thatd be dumb right?

Its the same reason why verses like say black clover or fairy tale are clowned on despite actually being really strong

Like if i say that black clover is uni or higher id be laughed up despite being correct


r/PowerScaling • • 5h ago

Discussion Recoome (Dbz) vs Blood Chains Ichigo (Bleach) and Bankai Zaraki (Bleach)

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r/PowerScaling • • 13h ago

Discussion Do you guys agree or disagree with these 4 arguments?

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Yogiri would beat Rimuru

Yhwach can negate Anti Pops' storyboard erasure for reasons written

Kaguya Otsutsuki can defeat PRE HOGYOKU Aizen for reasons written

Fairy Heart Zeref vs Lucius Zogratis is close and competitive, can go either way


r/PowerScaling • • 11h ago

Crossverse SCP Foundation Vs Naruto Verse

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Can the SCP Foundation handle the Naruto verse?


r/PowerScaling • • 16h ago

Discussion Excuse me person scrolling, but can you please give me your favorite verses and where you scale them?

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Image is not related here

Here are examples:

Jujutsu Kaisen: Town-City.

Chainsaw Man: City-Mountain.


r/PowerScaling • • 17h ago

Discussion I know it's probably not true. I'd do be funny though.

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The fact that some of the characters like yuji or gojo could kill makima because she didn't include soul damage or spatial damage in the contract. For example yuji didn't include himself with a binding vow with sukuna (which let's be honest is basically the same as chainsaw man contracts with small differences) which allowed sukuna to hurt yuji aka rip his finger off to transfer to megumi. Similar could happen here unless makima included directly "all sorts of attacks" instead of just "attacks", because saying only "attacks" is going to give kinda loose and exploit meaning to the word. So unless makima included all sorts of attacks, the attack type she didn't subconsciously add into the contract could possibly kill her. (Also i put denjis photo for lols not as an argument though the way she died is bs cuz what you mean you get up 5 minutes max after tanking bullets but you let a teenager take your ass back to his home and cook you)


r/PowerScaling • • 1h ago

Discussion Who in bleach can tank this

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Since her other dimensions have celestial bodies it’s assumed that this illuminated dimension also had a star


r/PowerScaling • • 21h ago

Question Weakest Bleach character who can replicate this feat?

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r/PowerScaling • • 5h ago

Question Supergirl (DC Comics) VS Heles (Dragon ball) who do you think wins?.

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r/PowerScaling • • 22h ago

Scaling Kid Buu vs Goku MUI (H2H)(Equal Stats)

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  • Speed, Strength, and durability are all equalized
  • Goku is in permanent MUI
  • Buu is Kid Buu

r/PowerScaling • • 16h ago

Discussion Where do we scale this?

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Imo i think stickman scales to high multiverse? I don’t know if this considered too outer? Cause he doesn’t transcend time and space.


r/PowerScaling • • 15h ago

Scaling What do these characters scale to and why: Goku, Ichigo, Shinra, Asta, Aizen, SJW, Frieza, Yhwach

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Js assume I talking about their canon forms and manga


r/PowerScaling • • 21h ago

Crossverse Goku (Dragon Ball | Piccolo Jr. Arc) vs Luffy (One Piece | Fish-Man Island Arc)

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r/PowerScaling • • 18h ago

Crossverse DBZ Broly, Janemba and Buuhan (Dragon Ball Z) vs Saitama, Sung Jin Woo Manhwa and End Of TYBW Ichigo.

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r/PowerScaling • • 18h ago

Discussion Do you guys agree with this video?

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r/PowerScaling • • 1h ago

Crossverse Captain America (Base Comics no shield) Vs Chris & Leon (Resident Evil all weapons).

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r/PowerScaling • • 22h ago

Discussion What is the most overrated anime verse on power scaling?

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Not including bleach or dragon ball since those are the most common told, i wanna anime verses that don't get enough mentioned that are overrated.


r/PowerScaling • • 23h ago

Crossverse Superman vs Jiren

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