Films/series mentioned:

1&2&3)The Secret Garden (1993)

4)The Dead Poets Society (1989)

5&6) Little Women (2019)

7) Crimson Peak (2015).

8)Anne With an E (2017)

9)A Little Princess (1995)

10) Marie Antoinette (2006)

11)Emma (2020)

12) Jane Eyre (2011)

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I’m looking for as much as I can get with severe fall vibes. either comforting and cozy autumn, or maybe something spooky/horror based since it’s October.

the one stipulation is that I’d really like to go hard on the “fall” part if possible! not just warm and cozy on its own, but maybe it’s set during the fall months or somehow, something about it is strongly associated with fall?

my only submissions here are sort of weak, which is why I’m so desperate. we’ve got the testament of ann lee which sort of breaks my own rules, in that it is not set entirely during fall, but it’s got that bit of darkness to it I suppose that works for me.

also the pilgrim vibes, which leads us to the deep cut I’ve picked for the second image. that screenshot is from a 1999 sitcom called “thanks”, a comedic take on the Plymouth pilgrims. this also does not take place entirely in the fall, but I guess pilgrims = thanksgiving to me, and the last episode is indeed intended to be the first thanksgiving.

hopefully someone has better ideas than I do!

Just finished it. Excellent!

I am in need of some recommendations for my next watch. I prefer shows that don’t have a lot of violence, sex, swearing, etc. I just finished a rewatch of Lark Rise to Candleford as it’s one of my favourites but looking for something new. I’ll list some series that I really enjoy and have seen.

Poldark (my absolute favourite show)
Cranford
Downton Abbey
Belgravia
The Other Bennet Sister
Robin Hood (BBC)
Wives & Daughters
Pride & Prejudice (series and the movie)
Ivanhoe
Merlin
Father Brown

I’m not interested in shows like Outlander or Bridgerton. Open to fantasy series though. Thanks everyone!

I don’t necessarily mean including the whole period day by day etc or even doing it chronologically in the flow of the story. flashbacks could work (just no giant verbal diarrhea expo dump speeches, show don’t tell). but I do feel like some shows time jump over periods maybe they shouldn’t have.

two immediately come to mind

Medici — they start with a whole season about Cosmo and then jump to his grandson at 20-22 in season 2. there’s basically one or two tiny flasbacks of Lorenzo as a younger child but that’s all. nothing about how the family grow to the point they did, a boy like that would be raised and groomed to take over etc. I rather wanted to see that stuff at least a bit.

versailles — okay this one might be a bit weird because it’s not a gap within the show but two before it. there’s an opening title card that says it’s been a year since the queen died and Louis officially took over. I wanted to see that year and see him realize the plan to move the court to Versaille. and the other before was the revolution that was so terrifying for him that he was trying to move heaven and earth to prevent a second one.

I just finished Netflix’s East of Eden, basically watching the entire series within 24 hours, and I have so many thoughts about these characters.

What captivated me most was how the series used family relationships, mental illness, social expectations, racism, and generational trauma to show how much people are shaped by both their families and the time period they live in.

Adam and Charles were especially interesting to me. They grow up in a home with very little emotional warmth, under a father who creates pressure and comparison between them. What makes their story even more tragic is watching Adam eventually repeat some of those same patterns with Caleb and Aron. He knew what it was like to compete with a brother for his father's love, yet his own sons somehow end up trapped in a very similar relationship.

I really wish we had gotten more of Charles. I kept expecting him to reunite with Adam and eventually meet his nephews, so his death genuinely surprised me. I also wanted much more exploration of his relationship with Cathy.

Cathy seemed to have a strange warmth toward Charles that she never showed Adam. It made me wonder whether Charles understood something about her that Adam simply couldn't. That's also why I was intrigued, but not completely convinced, by Charles appearing in Cathy's imagination later in the series.

The Charles she imagined seemed much darker than the actual Charles we had seen. He was constantly encouraging her worst thoughts and impulses. I almost interpreted him less as Charles himself and more as a distorted creation of Cathy's mind. Interestingly, when Cathy finally reaches the point of suicide, he isn't there. I still don't completely know what to make of that.

Cathy was probably the character I found most disturbing and fascinating.

I hated many of the things she did, but I also found myself having compassion for her without excusing her behavior. Her childhood trauma and apparent mental illness made me wonder how much of Cathy was always there and how much was created by what happened to her.

There were still decisions I struggled to understand. Why allow Adam to marry her and build this fantasy of a family when she clearly didn't want that life? Why have children knowing she intended to leave? And why did she seem capable of showing Charles some form of affection that she could never give Adam?

Her suicide made this even more complicated for me. If she truly felt nothing for her sons, why did confronting the consequences of her choices affect her so deeply? I don't think that redeems her, but I also don't think she's as simple as being inherently evil.

Adam, on the other hand, frustrated me because he had experienced so many of the things he later inflicted on his own children.

He knew what it felt like to grow up emotionally neglected. He knew what comparison between brothers could do. Yet he still became emotionally unavailable to Caleb and Aron and allowed his obsession with Cathy to consume years of their childhood.

I understand that Cathy completely destroyed him emotionally, but I think there came a point when Adam had a responsibility to move forward for his children. Cathy shot him, abandoned him, and left him with two newborn babies, yet she continued controlling his emotional life for years afterward.

Most importantly, I think Adam should have told his sons the truth about their mother.

That's why I really struggled with the idea that Caleb should carry the responsibility for Aron's death.

Caleb made a cruel decision in anger when he forced Aron to confront Cathy, but Aron's death felt like the final result of decisions that began long before Caleb was even born.

Cathy abandoned them. Adam concealed the truth. Aron developed an idealized understanding of his family and his mother. Caleb finally shattered that illusion.

To place the entire burden on Caleb felt incredibly unfair to me. If anything, I think Adam carries much more responsibility for what eventually happened to Aron.

And then there's Lee.

Lee was easily my favorite character in the series. His wisdom, vulnerability, humor, and emotional intelligence made him feel like the person quietly holding the entire Trask family together.

I particularly loved the way the series explored Lee's identity within that historical period. His code-switching was one of my favorite details. The moment when he realizes Hamilton is genuinely interested in understanding him and reveals his American accent completely changed the way I understood his character.

His friendship with Hamilton became one of my favorite relationships in the entire series. There was something incredibly refreshing about seeing two men from completely different backgrounds develop such genuine respect and curiosity toward one another.

Lee's dream of opening his bookstore also broke my heart. He knew what kind of life he wanted, but racism, immigration restrictions, and the realities of the period placed limits around what he could actually build for himself. At the same time, I loved that his eventual decision to return to Adam and the twins wasn't presented entirely as defeat. He realized that this strange, imperfect family had also become part of the life he wanted.

The historical setting made me think about Cathy differently too. Obviously, it doesn't excuse her cruelty, but the choices available to a woman who rejected marriage, motherhood, and traditional femininity were radically different from what they would be today. Cathy finds independence in one of the darkest ways imaginable, but I found it interesting that so much of her story revolves around refusing the roles women were expected to accept.

The most heartbreaking part for me was ultimately watching Caleb and Aron's relationship begin to resemble Adam and Charles's.

Despite the twins growing up wealthy, educated, disciplined, and cared for, none of that protected them from the emotional wounds of the generations before them. The Trasks keep inheriting things that nobody wants to talk about.

That's probably what stayed with me most after finishing the series: almost every tragedy can be traced backward.

Caleb and Aron's relationship connects to Adam's parenting. Adam's parenting connects to his relationship with Charles and their father. Cathy's behavior connects, at least partially, to her childhood and psychological deterioration.

One person's unresolved pain becomes someone else's burden.

I know there are people here who have read Steinbeck's novel and/or watched the previous adaptations, so I'm especially curious how everyone interpreted these characters in this version.

Did anyone else feel that Adam carried more responsibility for what happened to Aron than Caleb did? And what did you make of Cathy's relationship with Charles and his later appearances in her imagination?

I feel like I've seen a lot of period series, but I've noticed that most focus on the aristocracy. I just finished watching The Mill (bleak af but good) and it made me want to focus more on common people. I've seen Lark Rise to Candleford, and Jericho, all of those focus on the commoners so I'm looking for more like that. It's fine if they have a romantic element but that part isn't necessary. Any ideas?

Edit: I should add I have a hard time with the low def older stuff, so if we can keep it relatively more recent, (just as long as it's HD) like 2010 & later that would help. I've appreciated the lists you've given me so far and have looked them all up so far!

In the first episode, Arthur gives the watch from his dead father to his mother. Before she even opens it and sees the message "Do not forget," she already appears to know exactly what the message of the watch is.

My question is did I miss anything that shows the significance of the actual watch (not just the note) in their flashbacks?

Thanks!

Edit: I did just think of one possible reason! That his father carried the message in his watch for many years and Mrs. Dorrit had already seen the embroidered message before. That instead of a message to Mrs. Dorrit that she's seeing for the first time, it was instead a reminder to himself, and so she knew exactly what she'd find before opening the watch. I haven't read the novel, so I'm not sure if that's inaccurate.

Starts Jan 20th . Michael Hirst returns with more Vikings

Originally titled Silla/ Tang war than Great King Munmu . The long awaited ( 2 years ) drama will make its debut on Nov 14th .

All the great Korean heroes are on board with King Munmu, Kim Yushin, Yeon Gaesomun and ,Queen Seondeok It starts with the kingdom of Silla uniting with Tang China under Empress Wu and conquering Gogoryeo and Baekje to form unified Silla .

This brings the Kingdom into conflict with Wu and Tang Dynasty China . It’s subtitled in English.

Wanted to share the joy because this made me giggle

this is an appreciation post for all y’all period drama-loving people and this sub! i was SO excited to see that there was a subreddit for this. i thought i had watched every english-language tudor/stuart/restoration/victorian/edwardian thing out there. i was DESPONDENT! i was enjoying spanish language things (there truly aren’t enough), but finding it difficult to find other period piece movies/tv shows.

and then i found you lovely lot. i get SO much joy from all of the comments, recommendations, suggestions, and analysis. my partner also asked that i say a “hello!” from him because now i get to talk to y’all about all this stuff! (he listens, and he cares, but not the absolute history and period costume swooning nerd i am). so now, i’m settling in with some homemade pasta and marcella hazan’s tomato sauce (and wine, obvi) to watch the advocate with his royal hotness colin firth (thank you to whomever recommended that movie a few days ago!).

thank you for creating and continuing to be a spectacular community, on reddit, of all places. wishing everyone a lovely week ahead! 🥰

I am almost done reading the fictional novel “The Mrs. Astor” and I could recall some of the things in the novel happening. Had been so long since I’d watched Gilded Age because they wait so long between seasons. So i started over with Season 1 and am enjoying it…I think even more since I read that book! And my God…the dresses and scenery! Chefs kiss!