r/PeacemakerShow • u/AnonWithAHatOn • Oct 10 '25
DISCUSSION [EPISODE DISCUSSION] Peacemaker S02E08 - “Full Nelson”
Writer: James Gunn
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u/Boogie_Boof Oct 10 '25
“His face got eaten off by nightmare shit.” If that’s not the best description of that lol
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u/Any_Ad2581 Oct 10 '25
Had his name been Julian my mind would be blown.
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u/KingGizzle Oct 10 '25
That would’ve been a bit too on the (what used to be his) nose
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u/-Badger3- Oct 10 '25
Were those the imps that jerked off in Auggie’s Cheeriohs?
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u/KingDice66 Oct 10 '25 edited Oct 10 '25
Definitely lol remember that one humping flurry’s face lol Auggie also said young Chris was trying to grab a giant peppermint stick from that dimension and giant peppermint sticks are all over the place they went to.
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u/Robin0928 Oct 10 '25
"Im getting really far in 'Princess Peach: Showtime'"
Adrien Chase, my beloved.
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u/AntRose104 Oct 10 '25
I like that Judomaster is wearing his suit under his Hazmat suit
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u/UnUltimoIntento Oct 10 '25
I love how he never takes the suit off, and i hope we never see him do
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u/Turbulent_Bat4580 Oct 10 '25
Nhut is adorable but yes, I want him to be a never nude and refuse to take off his suit
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u/PyramidBlack Oct 10 '25
“Pull Titties! Pull!”
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During the final scene I straight up said out loud “Titties you’re better than this!”
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u/sarimanok_ Oct 10 '25
She knows whose eagle fucked her up. It's a revenge move. Titties is stone cold.
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Oct 10 '25
Even Harcourt called her Titties
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u/Dragonwindsoftime Oct 10 '25
I mean, at this stage even I'm calling her titties 😏
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u/idk_orknow Oct 10 '25
Not me thinking they slept together this whole time
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u/HulklingWho Oct 10 '25
I loved that it turned out to just be them having a beautiful moment. No wonder she freaked out, nothing scarier than genuine connection for her.
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u/Laizerdisc Oct 11 '25
Plus it really hammers home how much of a sweetheart romantic Chris is. The fact that he was agonizing over that moment so much only happened because just kissing Harcourt meant the WORLD to. It's a drastic switch from his "we could hook up, no emotions involved" pitch from S1 E1.
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u/QueenSparkleGlitter Oct 11 '25
Man my heart truly truly melted watching Chris do a little dance when he found out that the kiss meant “everything” to Emilia. What a romantic softie. Glad I got to see 5 seconds of happy Chris concert time before they pushed him into purgatory.
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u/Ballsnutseven Oct 10 '25
Yeah great character work there. It wasn’t just drunken lust, it was a genuine romantic moment, something Harcourt has evolved to show
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u/InItsTeeth Oct 10 '25
I think it was implied on purpose for the reveal to be a kiss which makes it that much sweeter
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u/Numbuh24insane Oct 10 '25
Fleury and Adrian interacting is what I truly needed , and I never knew it
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u/rougarou-te-fou Oct 10 '25
Highlight of the episode, next to the tackle and taser.
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u/RegulationRaptorsFan Oct 10 '25
Too bad we didn't get any resolution to the Chris doesn't appreciate Adrian subplot... He didn't even look at Adrian in the hotel room when it panned to each character lol
Just feels sad now
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u/zigaliciousone Oct 10 '25
He stuck pencils in his nose to try and make Adrian laugh, pretty sure they are over it
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Oct 10 '25
They might have to be separated or they won't get anything done lmao
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u/missjuliaaaaah Oct 10 '25
this season could have had sooo much fleury/adrian filler and there’d be no complaints from me!!
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u/SnooDonuts3871 Oct 10 '25
It reminds me of what happened to one of the victims of Corto Maltese's experiments in The Suicide Squad.
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Oct 10 '25
That was fucked up, RIP ponyboy
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u/furthuryourhead Oct 10 '25
His name was Kewpie
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u/romeovf Me and Ginger Cool are on this shit Oct 10 '25
No, it was Barely Legal.
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u/PaulOwnzU Oct 10 '25
How the fuck did young Nazi Chris survive those things
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u/thedaveness Oct 10 '25
Don't open doors that ain't yours.
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u/PaulOwnzU Oct 10 '25
I imagine he would've got traumatized after opening that one, went in for a lollipop then got attacked by those things
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u/TheGallifreyan Oct 10 '25
Thank you Ads! I hate how he talks to his mom!
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u/Fitzftw7 Oct 10 '25
I thought we were gonna get a reason why he’s so disrespectful towards her.
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u/Reckless2204 Oct 10 '25
We have. He’s a sociopath.
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u/Fitzftw7 Oct 10 '25
Well, yeah, but his standards are so fucking borked I kinda want to know what made him hate his mom so much in particular. I mean, he was pretty polite to the people he was planning on murdering at the end of Season 1, iirc.
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u/atomobot Oct 10 '25
lol he def doesn't hate his mom. He just has that bratty/spoiled persona some folks get from a sweet and loving parent.
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u/Jay_R_Kay Oct 10 '25
I liked how Gunn described it as Adrian being permanently trapped in that twelve year-old rebellious stage with his mom.
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u/Ugoboy23 Oct 10 '25 edited Oct 10 '25
Is it spoken about how Rick Sr has completely lost any good will he gained from Creature Commandos? Fuck this guy
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u/Robin0928 Oct 10 '25
Genuinely, James Gunn, what the fuck are you talking about "Rick Sr. isn't a bad guy"? Dude went from "flawed anti-hero" to "genuine supervillain" in one season of TV
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u/injulen Oct 10 '25
More like one episode.. I kept thinking he wasn't himself this whole finale. Especially when Harcourt did the bit about Sir/Rick and he seemed not to know what she meant.
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u/LeonSnakeKennedy Oct 10 '25
That’s because he does the Sir/Rick thing as manipulation. He did it to her when she had something he wanted, similar with Sacha. Now that she wasn’t as important he wasn’t thinking about it
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u/theiwc0303 Oct 10 '25 edited Oct 10 '25
I think they’re setting up for Man of Tomorrow that Lex has found someway to somewhat take control of Flagg or is severely manipulating him
Edit: even thinking back, it was weird that Flagg’s immediate response to questioning on executing Lex’s plans was to compliment how smart Lex is. He acted like he was a wackjob in Superman
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u/Grand_Lizard_Wizard Oct 10 '25
Yea the Asian guy ( sorry, can’t remember his name ) at the board meeting even pointed that out
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u/pseudo_nimme Oct 10 '25
I mean the whole “someone escapes from Arkham or Belle Reeve every month” part did make me understand him a bit more. The real world would be really different if superpowered criminals were escaping that often.
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Oct 10 '25
The Grey hair is what kept him semi- Sane haha that or Clayface really fucked him up
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Oct 10 '25
I'm genuinely not even sure it's the same character.
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u/Sonicfan42069666 Oct 10 '25
I think him not remembering he told Harcourt to call him "Rick" was a clue.
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u/schizowithagun Oct 10 '25
he was a complete dumbass in creature commandos, the bride did all the heavy lifting. makes sense that he's an even bigger dumbass here lol
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u/TomBedlam Oct 10 '25
I'm not 100 percent sure , but is Luthor manipulating Rick Sr? For example, the odd hand gestures by Lex in their negotiation. Then he not only gets the portal guy, but also employs Lex's team of tech fascist simps. All said and done he completes Lex's plan and suggests Lex is too valuable to not use.
I think this will leed to a presidential pardon and Lex's freedom, wherein he will be called in to help with Brainiac. Brainiac is already on Earth.
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u/Robin0928 Oct 10 '25
SEVEN SEASONS OF AN OFFICE-BASED SITCOM FOR THE 11TH STREET KIDS
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u/Robin0928 Oct 10 '25
Rick Flag Senior personally ruining my dreams of a Checkmate office comedy
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u/Pretend_Housing_8497 Oct 10 '25
judomaster wearing his suit under the hazmat suit is killing me lmaooo
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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream Oct 10 '25
we have never seen him without it.... does he actually take it off?
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u/TransitionDue4388 Oct 10 '25
Ok so rick flagg fucking sucks
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u/schizowithagun Oct 10 '25
i thought creature commandos had made that pretty obvious for ya'll lol
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u/Nagi-Shio Oct 10 '25 edited Oct 10 '25
Creature Commandos made him seem like an incompetent but well-intentioned leader.
I understood his resentment for Chris but this whole episode made him feel like a completely different character.
I paused halfway through and honestly thought either Luthor was literally mind-controlling him or a butterfly got to him and was looking for a new home
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u/moppingflopping Oct 10 '25 edited Oct 10 '25
I thought Sasha had a plan, turns out she really just wanted to sleep with Rick Flag Sr 💔
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u/SuburbanLegend Oct 10 '25
Same, and then when she turns on Flag and goes to Harcourt and then recruits Adebayo... I thought they were forming a plan to stop Flag or something. But no, they decided to start living their out-of-nowhere business dreams?
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u/OutsideAwareness1116 Oct 10 '25
It absolutely seemed like they were getting everyone together and coming up with a plan to stop ARGUS and then it was just them starting a business. This whole episode, and honestly the season, has had me scratching my head.
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u/XxsalsasharkxX Oct 10 '25
first time i feel gunn did not cook. There was a lot of exposition dumping and not a lot of creative ways of tying up loose ends.
I still enjoyed it, but didn't love it.
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u/ProcedureCharming831 Oct 10 '25
That ending kinda pissed me off? Like I get Flag's motivation but also what the fuck dude
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u/AFoxOfFiction Oct 10 '25
Dollars to donuts it's probably not the worst thing he's done.
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u/ProcedureCharming831 Oct 10 '25
Oh definitely not, but I also just feel like despite a whole season of events, Flag himself did very little to actually earn that ending, so the more I'm sitting on it the more annoyed I'm getting. I fucking adore this show but that just felt like such a frustrating end to an otherwise 10/10 experience.
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u/ParadoxInRaindrops Oct 10 '25
The real drag is knowing Season 3 isn’t guaranteed & the ending more so acting as set up the DCU.
Not to say I didn’t like it. Loved the establishment of Checkmate! But it’s like ending the episode with a sign that says ”Check Back in 3 Years”.
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u/IForkingKnewIt Oct 10 '25
I felt like Gunn's saying there wouldn't be a season 3 of Peacemaker and it'll make sense at the end of the season implies that Peacemaker as a show is over because now it's now Checkmate. Like I fully expect a Checkmate series or movie announcement to continue telling stories with this cast
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u/Lepelotonfromager Oct 10 '25
That makes sense though, Peacemaker's character transformation is complete. He is redeemed and he has let go of his demons by embracing his friends, or at least found the path going forward. The ensemble has grown enough that he wants to have a title that reflects the whole cast and organisation going forward.
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u/diamondisunbreakable Oct 10 '25
Flag and Bordeaux felt like different characters to me in this episode. Felt like I almost got whiplash seeing Sasha go from bad to good, and Flag from anti-villain to Saturday morning cartoon villain.
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Poor eagly :(
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u/steeldog09 Oct 10 '25
That might’ve been the saddest thing I’ve ever seen in a show! Eagly in that closet just despondent was exactly how shelter animals who have broken spirits just kind of limply exist.
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u/chuckdee68 Oct 10 '25
And now with him gone to another world, what happens to Eagly?
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u/missjuliaaaaah Oct 10 '25
choosing to believe he’s still warming up to economos, he got one wing!!🥺
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u/AnonWithAHatOn Oct 10 '25
You’d think they send in the cannon fodder first. Judomaster almost got spaghetti’d.
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u/TheMikey2207 Oct 10 '25
Did we just lose?
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u/tonydemedici Oct 10 '25
I think so man😭 I was holding out for Waller to pop up and retake ARGUS with Flagg turning it into lex corps jr
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u/TransitionDue4388 Oct 10 '25
The last julian :(
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u/millie_paq Me and Ginger Cool are on this shit Oct 10 '25
it's a hungry world 😔
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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream Oct 10 '25
yeah i got that impression last episode. Episode 7 really felt like a finale to the whole Earth X arc, with Keith being teased as a potential returning villain.
this episode felt like it was setting up what is the overarching story of the DCU, while also bringing closure to Chris's arc. (I notice he never wore the Peacemaker uniform once)
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u/CrashRiot Oct 10 '25
He did wear it once in episode one until after he got rejected by the Justice Gang. After that he only wore Earth X uniform and not “his” uniform.
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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream Oct 10 '25
I meant in the episode, but good point. I wouldnt be suprised if he doesnt wear the Peacemaker uniform moving forward
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u/CrashRiot Oct 10 '25
Pretty sure I remember Gunn warning us about that before the season started and that's why he kept the last three episodes from critic advance.
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u/Verdestar Oct 10 '25
Well, i guess this kinda confirms that the show "Peacemaker" is unlikely to get a season 3 and a new show will be called checkmate or something
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u/Glassesguy904 Oct 10 '25
I'd bet real life money that in some future superhero show, the protagonist will be sucked into the prison. They'll get saved by Peacemaker, and they work together to escape.
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u/Dry-Table-27 Oct 10 '25
Are you fucking kidding me James Gunn. Leaving us on a cliffhanger but doesn’t even announce Season 3. I know it’s supposed to continue in Man of Tomorrow, but we need a Season 3 to make this make sense!
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u/Jake_The_Destroyer Oct 10 '25
Likely that season 3 is going to be a new show called Checkmate.
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u/Gruelly4v2 Oct 10 '25
I can't be the only one who feels like that was more Peacemaker Season 3, Episode 1 than Peacemaker Season 2, Episode 8, right? Disconnected from Dimension X, didn't feel like a wrap-up for the existing storyline as much as the start of a new one.
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u/Robin0928 Oct 10 '25
This opening is so fucking cute. Chris is such a puppy dog
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Oct 10 '25
Yeah and was a great example of how to act as a man
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The most unrealistic thing James Gunn has ever done is to make it so you can get shots at a fast food burger joint!
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u/TechFiction7 Oct 10 '25
It had more of a Red Robin/Buffalo Wild Wings/Cheddar’s vibe. You can get shots at those. I think the idea was that he’s not very classy and took her to a chain restaraunt but showed her it could still be cool.
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u/Teep_the_Teep Oct 10 '25
I figured Big Belly was like Red Robin, you can get liquor at Red Robin
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u/CrashRiot Oct 10 '25
Once again the mods are late and showing that they really don't wanna taste it ❗
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u/brandonie187 Oct 10 '25
I feel like Flag Sr is mad at the wrong person. He should be 100% going after Waller with all this energy. Chris did what he did because he had a bomb in his head
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u/Numbuh24insane Oct 10 '25
SALVATION RUN!
Its Salvation Run! What a fantastic and cool pull from the comics! I loved Salvation Run!
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u/PeregrineLeFluff Oct 10 '25
Did NOT see that coming as a potential storyline.
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u/Numbuh24insane Oct 10 '25
Neither did I, I have no idea how this is going to work out but right now I’m excited
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u/charrsasaurus Oct 10 '25
As soon as they said they were looking for an empty plane I Just had to hope that's where it was headed.
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u/omHK Oct 10 '25
100% called that Ads' agency would become the focal point for all of them to do good. I think they wrapped this point up nicely, and I fucking love all the characters that are a part of it.
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u/UnknownAverage Oct 10 '25
It took me way too long to realize what funding she was talking about. Like, until the scene where they load up, which was great.
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u/PyramidBlack Oct 10 '25
We better get an answer on the hairless cat burning alien.
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u/PyramidBlack Oct 10 '25
Calling it now. Fucking my Heart in the Ass is the break up song for 2025.
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u/FunImprovement166 Oct 10 '25
I was like "Damn, they are really going to play that whole song huh?"
At least when they played the full season 1 theme it was during a crazy final battle fight scene. This was just them walking around a mall haha
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u/MastermindMogwai Oct 10 '25
I don't understand Gunn saying episodes 6-8 were the craziest things he's ever written
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u/guess-what-babe Me and Ginger Cool are on this shit Oct 10 '25
He didn’t say it was the craziest stuff he’s written, he said it’s his favourite stuff that he’s written
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u/CBloomYT Oct 10 '25
Dude I feel so underwhelmed. Like I get the episode had good moments but the way he was kinda hyping it up let me down…
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u/Mars_The_68thMedic Oct 10 '25
Is Rick coked-out? Cause he seems coked-out of his mind.
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u/rajde1 Oct 10 '25
Cliffhanger when the next season probably won't come out for another 3 years sucks. Besides that it was fun.
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u/AspiringProd Oct 10 '25
That’s how I felt. Really loved the episode and can understand a cliffhanger, but seriously? If we don’t get Checkmate before Man of Tomorrow that means over 2 years of Chris being completely alone and fucking miserable, it just feels shitty.
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u/JackC1126 Oct 10 '25
Did this episode feel… off to anyone else?
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u/Saltpataydahs Oct 10 '25
yeah, for instance, the fade to black was odd and a lot more needle drops than usual
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u/Robin0928 Oct 10 '25
White Collar Criminals getting away with everything and cozying up to government officials while the underlines are grinded down into dust all for the purpose of imprisoning "others"
James Gunn gonna have to do overtime on Threads to not get fired when the chuds see this, God I love him.
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u/OLKv3 Oct 10 '25
Hey hey HEY! He wrote this plot at the creation of Earth, before all this stuff happened in the real world. Total coincidence pal.
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u/oorza Oct 10 '25
So those were dinosaur roars at the end and he'll return riding a T-Rex, right?
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u/fray_luna Oct 10 '25
worse, it’s parademons (assuming comic accurate Salvation)
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u/Numbuh24insane Oct 10 '25
Wait, is Ads going to be the one to make Checkmate?
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u/TomBedlam Oct 10 '25
Ads is the good version of Waller. She can emotionally manipulate for hood like convincing Adrian to use the blood money for good. I suspect Waller is going to worm her way back into Ads life.
I'm soo proud of Adebayo for being an adult in her relationship and letting her wife go. Sometimes the right decision is painful and not a happy ending. I love Adebayo.
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u/Robin0928 Oct 10 '25
Rick, there are like 5 different ways people in the DC Universe can hop dimensions. No way this prison plan survives a year
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The episode isn't bad and looks to the future, but as an episode, I MUCH prefer episodes 6 and 7.
Too much hype...
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u/RobinOsiria Oct 10 '25
a little too much screen time of the bands performing on the boat
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u/FligguGiggu11 Oct 10 '25
Two whole songs played in their entirety was definitely a choice.
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Am i the only one that's like, kinda disappointed?
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u/HippieDogeSmokes Oct 10 '25
this episode kind of rushes Chris’ development and is mostly setting up the future rather than ending this series.
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u/bigmanIoI Oct 10 '25
james gunn be like "peacemaker is my favorite thing i've ever done" then make him suffer endless turmoil 😂😂
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u/PeregrineLeFluff Oct 10 '25
Oh. OH. Ohhhhhhhhh.
I see we're maybe adapting THAT storyline, are we?
Oh dear.
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u/Numbuh24insane Oct 10 '25
Salvation Run: In the comics, the American Government decided to dump all super villains on a planet and call it a day.
Factions are made, ultimately ending with Team Lex Luthor fighting Team Joker, but it gets interrupted by I believe Brainiac robots attacking the planet to absorb its data?
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u/Surfacing710 Oct 10 '25
Alien robots invade a planet to get its data? There’s only one man for the job, Ice Cube.
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u/wibo58 Oct 10 '25
Salvation Run. Prison planet for supervillains that turns out to be one giant death trap with monsters. Man of Tomorrow could very well end up being Superman and Lex having to team up to survive a trip there.
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Oct 10 '25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvation_Run
Villains are sent to Salvation and rule it, or try to escape.
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u/BigBonkMan23 Oct 10 '25
That’s… how it ends??? And no guarantee of season 3??
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u/DrD__ Oct 10 '25
Im sure we'll get a checkmate show of them trying to get Chris back
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Oct 10 '25
Jesus those things are smart cutting the rope and closing the door (and jumping the mask😭)
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u/HippieDogeSmokes Oct 10 '25
Wish we actually got to see the scene of Judo Master and Fluery joining the agency instead of the showing up and us having to assume how it happened.
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u/DrD__ Oct 10 '25
I think it makes sense, judo master pretty much already joined the 11th street kids after all that happened on earth x and chilling with ads
They probably didnt feel the need to have a scene with fluery since his reasoning is almost exactly the same as Bordeaux, he has even more of a connection with the people that died than she did and already showed his morality when backing up Ginger cool about stopping flag from beating on Chris
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Oct 10 '25
Damn if Ads gets divorced can we still call her Ads
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u/Qweeniepurple Me and Ginger Cool are on this shit Oct 10 '25
Okay, I finished but I’m really confused? I thought this was the end??
What the heck?! No season three?! After that?
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u/Express_One_5074 Me and Ginger Cool are on this shit Oct 10 '25
I'm actually kinda disappointed, like... What the hell? There just gonna end it like that?!
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u/your_mind_aches James NoFun Oct 10 '25
The episode should be visible for everyone now. HBO Max seems to have gotten a bit of a hug of death.
The Peace Filter is enabled. All submissions will temporarily be sent for mod approval to avoid spoilers.
Enjoy the finale.