Palestine - Open Discussion Thread | October 01, 2026

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[u/luckynator3000]

Is there any plans to fight Israel lobbying in Europe? Associations like ELNET have been paying off politicians and financing propaganda essentially. I believe just protesting is not gonna cut it, we need more information on who is funding this, how the narrative is being spun. Which politicians have taken blood money. Concrete plans for us europeans right here to actually do.

[u/Equivalent_Day_4078]

I couldn’t post my thoughts in a thread since it got autobanned but here are my thoughts on hypocrisy on EU and USA when it comes to White nationalism and Israel:

Title: Israel's "we need to stay majority Jewish" logic is basically Great Replacement theory and I don't get why it gets a pass.

So the standard Israeli argument for keeping the population over 50% Jewish is that it's a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency thing. If another Holocaust-scale event happens, there needs to be a state that's majority Jewish so there's somewhere to go.

And people defending this will point out that European countries are basically ethno-states too, Germany, France, etc. Which, ok, fair point to an extent. Far right ethno-nationalism is definitely rising in a lot of Europe right now, that's not fake.

But I live in Iceland and I think this comparison falls apart when you actually look at how it plays out here. Our far right is growing too, same as everywhere, but the mainstream position still isn't "we need over 50% of the population to have both parents descended from Ingólfur Arnarsson" (basically our founding settler guy). If Iceland ends up being a majority mix of Icelandic, Polish, Danish, Norwegian, whatever, nobody mainstream is actually panicking about that.

Israel is a different animal. That's literally why it gets called an ethno-state, and it's not just rhetoric, it's backed up by actual policy in Gaza and the West Bank to keep that demographic control. It's also the main argument against a one-state solution, that without a Jewish majority Jews would get genocided. I think that's just not a serious argument at this point, it's fear-mongering dressed up as policy.

European countries don't operate on that kind of fear. Iceland isn't sitting here worried that if enough Poles move here we get "replaced" or that Poland quietly takes over through migration numbers. Nobody here thinks like that, at least not outside the fringe.

And that's the thing that should actually matter to the EU. If Iceland tried to run on "we need to protect our ethnic majority from demographic change," we would get laughed out of Schengen immediately. That logic is treated as disqualifying literally everywhere else in Europe.

And this is what gets me about a lot of pro-Zionist Jews and Jewish allies in the US and Europe specifically. Same people who will absolutely go off on ethnic white nationalism here, who champion pluralism, multiculturalism, "diversity is our strength," all of it, completely flip the second the conversation turns to Israel. Suddenly demographic engineering to preserve an ethnic majority isn't scary or regressive, it's "security." The disgust for ethno-nationalism just evaporates. You don't get to call it fascist here and necessary there, that's not a principled position, that's just picking which ethno-nationalism you personally benefit from.

So when Israel says it needs a Jewish majority as a baseline condition for its own security, that's running on the same underlying fear as Great Replacement theory, the idea that losing demographic majority equals existential danger. Europe calls that out as dangerous when its own far right says it. It shouldn't get a free pass just because it's Israel saying it.

[u/RightInTwain]

What's the best way to encourage open dialogue across ideological boundaries? I attempted to share an alternative viewpoint in AskIsrael as they all piled on comments about how Israel just has a PR problem because of antisemitism. I offered that what's really bothering the world is the long history of displacing, killing, and disenfranchising Palestinians. We want to see Israel genuinely work towards making amends vs the current status of continuing and accelerating abuses. It was immediately deleted by mod-bots as making "unsubstantiated claims". Meanwhile plenty of other highly suspect pro Israel statements appeared to have no such issue. I mean mods are free to create little echo chambers, but you then see people saying stuff like "we really don't understand why everyone hates Israel" and I'm like bruh I was actually just trying to explain in a fact based straightforward way.