r/Overwatch • u/Particular_Issue_864 • 1d ago
Console Is this even possible?
I'm diamond and somehow game decided to queue me with gold and silver. It was solo queue and not a wide group ether. I'm just very confused.
168
u/taken_by-the-storm 1d ago
Love how 6v6 ranked won't let you wide queue as a group but your games are wide anyway lmfao
26
30
u/Gufrey 1d ago
Me and my friends play one placement match for 6v6 together, get some random predicted ranks and after the second match the person with the highest predicted rank gets an even higher one, the player with the lowest stays the same and we can't queue anymore.
Repeat after season reset
8
u/Ok_Dependent6889 1d ago
Sounds like there's a fairly large skill gap in the group
3
u/Gufrey 1d ago
That would make sense if the same people got the lowest and highest predicted rank, but it is not so. It shuffles from season to season. One person has now preditced diamond in 6v6 after two matches while predicted silver in role queue (don't remember which role), last season they got predicted silver in 6v6
5
u/pwp6z9r9 1d ago
Have them start a new account and see if it's the same. It's likely due to their qp rank dragging them down. I jumped a full rank when I did it.
1
u/pimskie 1d ago
How long ago was this? Or: did you stay that rank? I thought (and was very happy with) that qp elo is separate from comp elo.
2
u/pwp6z9r9 20h ago
Ok so what I said isn't necessarily true. There is quick play mmr. Plays heavily on the first placements. After that it the comp mmr is continued and tracked even through hard resets. The above method still works especially if there has been huge improvements in skill because your mmr average can still weight you down. Especially on old accounts.
1
288
u/JustATurrey 1d ago
These kinds of matches is what I call a "carry" game.
Basically both teams have an extremely high elo player compared to the rest. Due to this, team work is inefficient since you know "the team is only as strong as it's weakest link" and it's weakest link is a bronze.
So instead of working as a team, you NEED to dominate as hard as possible MORE than their carry.
8
u/EmotionalSupportNid 1d ago
I think the way to look at it is that their team also has a weakest link, so you need to find and break it.
44
u/The_Chief_of_Whip 1d ago
I don't think continually targeting the bronze DPS, who wasn't going to get an elim anyway, is really a good use of your attention.
They're not going to be that impactful anyway, so spawn camping them really isn't that effective. Especially when their team's best player will easily 1v4/5 your team and you're not there to do anything about it.
2
u/JustATurrey 14h ago
The bronze DPS, if not dealt with, will pressure your bronze player. Remember they both bronze. So they both have a chance of killing each other.
1
u/KingJellyfish95 14h ago
I just got out of a game where we had an unranked tank and a bronze support. They had 2 plats, one was tank. Everyone else gold. It went about as well as you’d think it would.
38
u/overwatchquetion 1d ago
Welcome to 6v6
2
u/Officing 20h ago
Which competitive mode is more popular, 5v5 or 6v6? Recently came back after like 6 years and I'm interested in hopping back on comp. Tank main fwiw
3
u/The_Big_Red_Doge hy is so warm? Well... 19h ago
5v5 is significantly more popular (based on stats blizzard posted recently)
1
u/TylowStar 7h ago
5v5, by a lot. To the point where 6v6 ranks are known to be inflated by the lack of high-skill players playing the mode.
3
163
u/_LFKrebs_ Zenyatta 1d ago
You play Moira so you’re being correctly matched with players of your skill level. /s
That’s just open queue matchmaking, it’s a clusterfuck lol
19
62
u/Life_Parsley504 Orisa Dicks Me Down Daily 1d ago
Pro tip; if you are put in a match with lower rank players, play a high impact character (SO NOT MOIRA) so you can actually carry them
50
u/Particular_Issue_864 1d ago
I did actually, we won, so all cool
10
u/R0ckBerry 1d ago
Why Lucio has no rank, but rank cosmetics?
4
u/Particular_Issue_864 1d ago
Probably got cosmetics in 5v5, didn't get placed in 6v6 yet
2
u/Infidel_sg Punch Kid 23h ago
6v6 master title.. You don't get to keep seasonal rewards meaning he was placed last season..
-4
u/Alibium01 Anran Echo Ana 1d ago
All the answers are wrong
You can hide it using streamermode
3
u/shtoopidd 1d ago
I dont get the downvotes. I literally do the same and my rank has been hidden for a long time
2
6
u/Meowjoker Cute Doomfist 1d ago
Cursed hours I supposed.
Like, too low of a population at the time leading to this.
5
u/Imzocrazy Zenyatta 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ok people really need to understand the following:
There is no separate wide queue in OQ. It has been that way since season 13 (exactly 2 years ago - it’s actually in the patch notes for oct 29 of that year).
You can in fact have very wide ranges there
5
3
6
u/Stressy-And-Depressy Winston 1d ago
Yes it is & it is pain. I'm a diamond/masters player who can't say no to my friend when he asks to play...who's also a silver/gold player. The lobbies look like this, if not worse, every single time.
27
u/DJFrankyFrank 1d ago
Everybody saying "Welcome to 6v6". "this is normal in 6v6".
6v6 is my main game mode, almost exclusively since it was released. This is not the norm. This makes me think you were queing in a low population server, or at a weird time. I'm pretty consistently high masters, and have only seen bad lobbies like this a handful of times. The worst one being diamond to GM. Or Masters to Champ.
Not saying it doesn't happen. It clearly does. But it's hardly a normal occurrence
5
u/Educational-Quail193 1d ago
I used to play 6v6 as my main game mode, my friends and I were all mid to high masters. We would VERY OFTEN get placed in lobbies that were bronze to GM, silver to masters, even gold to champ. Even when I was solo queuing like OP is while I mostly played during busy times like weekends in NA.
1
u/WesThePretzel 1d ago
It didn’t happen to you so it must not be real! Just ignore all the people saying they’ve experienced the same as OP, I guess. I was Masters and GM before the last rank reset and I often got matched with Gold players. I play during normal times in North America.
-17
u/WTF_CAKE Pixel D.Va 1d ago
6v6 is pretty brainless ngl as a Diamond dps, I get to masters every time
-3
u/DJFrankyFrank 1d ago
The way I look at it, it's competitive QP. It's just organized chaos. And I love that aspect of it.
And it's gonna stay like that, until blizzard is actually serious about balancing a 6v6 mode, outside of "reduce tanks health".
I could easily list off my complaints about 6v6, and things I'd do to actually make it viable. The main thing is, open queue. I like open queue, but it needs to be 2-2-2 to be viable. Anything other than 2-2-2, leads back to the chaoticness.
That and shields, shields either need a nerf, or they need to make it so you can only have one shield tank in the game mode.
5
3
u/mountaindude20 1d ago
I’m placed in wide group matches as well as a solo queuer. Usually my high rank teammate is a Mercy while the opposing team has a high rank tank along the lines of Sigma 😂.
It’s bad enough to be placed in these wide group matches, but it would be nice if there was some parity on the role of the high ranked players on each team.
3
3
3
u/Bomantheman 1d ago
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems the matchmaking creates a skill average for your team and the other as well.
Since you're Diamond and Luc was at one point, Masters, it is possible that you'll play against a Plat average team.
3
u/TrioBrando 1d ago
You must be close to ranking up. For some reason when you get one or 2 games from a new rank, Overwatch hands you carry games like candy. It’s so annoying.
4
6
u/thonor111 Reinhardt 1d ago
"Is this even possible"
Proceeds to show a picture of exactly this thing happening.
So yes, it is possible
2
u/Doc_Green_10101 1d ago
This has been happening to me on my support queues - went from emerald 4 to plat 2 and every game is silver-diamond rank - had a silver rein fighting against diamond dps 😠def not taking this season seriously lol
2
2
1
u/AutoModerator 1d ago
Welcome to r/Overwatch! Please use the following resources via the links below to find relevant information about the game and the subreddit.
Overwatch Patch Notes | Overwatch Bug Report Forums
r/Overwatch Rules | r/Overwatch FAQs | r/Overwatch Common Bugs and Posts
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
1
u/Sideview_play 1d ago
I swear non of y'all understand what wide groups are and aren't.Â
Even before the existence of wide groups the match maker itself could make games like thisÂ
Wide groups only has to do with limitations on who can be queued together as friends and then they go into their own queue with only other wide groups.Â
1
u/thanhjohn0902 1d ago
My guess is the enemy team is wide group and since the game couldnt find a matching group for them they just put together what they can while making the average rank of both team the same.
1
u/Greatatmosphere4U 1d ago edited 1d ago
What's frustrating is the quitters. Even if you get dominated in the first round. A lot of times you can turn it around. But nope some dude leaves.
Or you have a low ranked player who doesnt group up. Half of this game is placement and the other is to know when to engage. If 2 or 3 of your team mates have been killed and none on the other team are dead you have to back up. Don't push until you have the numbers. Oh and No one seems to talk any more.
1
1
1
u/Proof_Currency_6736 1d ago
One time I (s*lver) ended up in a plat-diamond lobby, got absolutely ravaged.
1
1
u/Rockyrox 1d ago
I think matchmaking involves more than just rank, even though that’s what you see. Specifically placement matchmaking. You are probably playing with groups. Lucio doesn’t have a rank yet, but he has a title card that says 6v6 Master
0
1
1
u/pwp6z9r9 1d ago
I speculate that someone was on a losing streak. I swear everyone time I get plats in a high silver and gold lobby, the plat is having a bad day. We hardly ever win and the plat is toxic as hell that we didn't carry their bad game baggage for them. I have seen this many many times. The pattern is so consistent that im completely prepared for what kinda of game this is going to be when a plat is present. No offense if this isn't the case but it really looks like the case lol.
1
u/Chemical-Ad-2578 1d ago
When I was climbing and was in Platinum, there was a 6v6 game where it went all the way from my plat 3 to Masters 2. We won that game and I didn’t really notice any difference in the quality of play, which I thought was weird
1
u/transluscent_emu 1d ago
All 6v6 are wide, so this is pretty normal actually, especially this early in the season when people have just finished placements (lucio clearly hasn't even done that) and aren't necessarily ranked in a way that accurately reflects their skills yet.
1
u/theUlitmateBalls 23h ago
in middle east 6v6 matchmaking can group diamond 1 to grandmaster 5 80% of the time.
1
u/RustyKn1ght 22h ago
Yep. I had the other night one with Bronze and high plat mixed together which we somehow ended up winning. 128% uphill battle bonus!
1
1
1
u/alldayibiddybiddybum 19h ago
Just had a game as bronze 3 and the game had plat 5 players. Game is what it is.... [redacted]
1
u/RPGICHIBAN 18h ago
Happens a lot in early morning games. Never had an issue with it tbh, games seemed normal.
1
1
1
1
0
u/littlefirewest don't jinx it! 1d ago
Maybe the diamond and silver players are in a lobby together?
0
2
1.4k
u/GhostlyQua 1d ago
Everything is possible in 6vs6