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u/Pizzamess Jun 30 '26
tbf this is most anime companies. Its a stark contrast to america's media where sexualized things are more heavily censored then gore.
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u/Justanotherrandoonli Jun 30 '26
I honestly think that is a significantly smarter practice. Like I would much rather my child see a naked breast (You know, the thing that literally provided them food for 1-2 years of its life. You didn't mind it seeing a naked tit back then) than graphic violence a body mutilation. Like people freak out at the idea of a 10 year old child seeing a naked body even though that 10 year old child is also expected to get naked and shower every day, but if that 10 year old walks in on an episode of the walking dead and see's a zombie getting split in half with its guts literally falling out then it'll probably be ok. Its just incredibly realistic special effects after all!
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u/Not_Wrong_Tho Jun 30 '26
Also sex and sexuality is, hopefully, going to be a normal part of their life when they're adults.
Graphic violence, hopefully, won't.
It makes perfect sense which of the two's portrayal should be more closely scrutinised.
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u/Pizzamess Jun 30 '26
No I completely agree. I've always felt that America's culture of sexual taboo was intensely hypocritical considering how loose its regulations on violence is.
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u/joacoper Jun 29 '26
Dont mind it on the manga as its more subtle but yeah toei goes way too hard on it
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u/Gremlin2471 Lurker Jun 29 '26
Subtle lmao, reread fishman island and punk hazard
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u/Destroy_Buster Jun 29 '26
Toei's fanservice is just so awkward looking that it does the opposite of what it's supposed to so it should probably just get binned alltogether.
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u/guacotaco4349 Marine Jun 29 '26
Really, itās not that itās fanservice, itās that itās really common and awkwardly timed, if it were handled a bit better I donāt think people would care too much since in the manga the only real point of contention is that Oda draws hot women the exact same every time, never really that he puts them in awkward situations all the time
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u/Soul699 Explorer Jun 29 '26
never really that he puts them in awkward situations all the time
Well, occasionally...
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u/epeonv1 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
And all of the unnecessary ass and boob shots of Boney in the manga, even DURING Egghead. I just scrubbed through the 1st 12 chapters of Egghead and found 5 panels (actually 8, but 3 were borderline so i left them out) with Bonney being shown in a unnecessary fanservicey way. And that was just in the 1st 12, and i clearly remember there being fan servicey shots of Bonney AFTER THE BACKSTORY in the manga.
Oda does it too. I mean look at the outfit he put Rebecca in, then decided that she was 16. Just make her at least 18 if you are gonna dress her like that man, c'mon!
Then there is the 15 year old Shirahoshi. Again, there is 0 reason she had to be 15. But he made her 15, so he could at least not drawn fan service of her.
People are getting waay to comfortable letting Oda get away with this creepy shit by blaming it all on the anime. WHO DO FOLLOW SUIT AND EVEN PUT EMPHASIS ON THE MOMENTS, WHICH IS ALSO BAD! But the author could have just designed these under aged women to not have their boobs and asses out for no explicable reason. Or he could have just made them adults.
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u/efflorae Pirate Jun 29 '26
I will never understand why the giant inflat-a-boobs is so prevalent. It looks so ugly and body horror-ish to me. Why. How is that sexy???
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u/Chafgha Jun 29 '26
Hyper body is a weirdly widespread attraction that I don't understand i wont shame anyone for it but literally have no understanding of why people love it.
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u/efflorae Pirate Jun 29 '26
Same. Cannot wrap my mind around it. It is pure uncanny valley and uncomfortable to look at for me.
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u/Slow-Talk4741 Jun 29 '26
Because it is sexy to those who are interested in women with big breasts
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u/efflorae Pirate Jun 29 '26
But they don't look or move like real large breasts- I would know! I have them! Yall sure you arent just attracted to water balloons?
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u/Harurajat Jun 29 '26
I mean, I think in general people can be in to weirdly exaggerated proportions in animated characters. Iām imagining the classic dorito shaped men of the DCAU or the 6ā11ā 12-pack thwunks of manhwa. I donāt think finding something sexy in an anime really correlates much to irl preferences
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u/eclectictiger0 Jun 29 '26
The dorito shaped men werent shaped that way because people found it sexually attractive if thats what youre implying. Even then, a lot of the shows with men with crazy builds like that still had more diversity as far as male body types went.
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u/Aphrodite-descendant Jun 29 '26
Men (probably mostly boys) who like that have never been within 5' of a woman irl
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u/Town5Thousand Jun 29 '26
I like it. Iām married. As another said, finding something visually appealing in anime doesnāt necessarily have much connection to reality or what is realistic.
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u/Destroy_Buster Jun 29 '26
speak for yourself motherfucker i love huge knockers and that fuckass volleyball scene is the least sexy thing put to print
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u/Senior-Leave779 Jun 29 '26
IIII am interesting in women with big breasts. And I still think it's too much.
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u/Charliethebrit Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
There are people who wont try OnePiece bc they find the fan service off-putting.Ā
It disappoints me to not be able to share it with more people.
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u/Nidro Jun 29 '26
The worst part is that it starts off fine but by the time youāre emotionally connected the fan service goes crazy
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u/Jamienra Jun 29 '26
Yeah, it turns a lot of people away from Anime in general.
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u/MugiwaraLoofy Jun 29 '26
Yeah my sister hates one piece. My brother in law got into it recently, and apparently my sister walked into the living room and saw either nami or robin on screen and made her judgement on the spot lol
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u/otterpop21 Jun 29 '26
I did the same this for food wars. A few times lol eventually I overheard a dish on the show and got hooked.
Fan service is just so gross and over played that there needs to be a bit more other than big boobs watch this show imo.
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u/grandecrosse Jun 29 '26
I ADORE fanservice, but something about One Piece's strikes me as Off.
Probably because women are either sexpots or ogres in the series. Also the art style tends to make the sexy women have the same proportions a 12 year old would draw up. It wasn't always that way either, which makes it more irksome.
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u/jujux15 Jun 29 '26
I get not Minding fan service but to adore it? Can you elaborate why you adore it?
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u/grandecrosse Jun 29 '26
I am a panpoly woman afflicted with male gaze.
I fkn love anime tiddies. I love ass and legs for miles even more. I love them even better when there's a solid story backdrop, and solid proportions to dem tiddies. Witchblade is one of my enduring favorite anime series because there's big ol' honkers and ass for days AND it makes you feel things. But fanservice is also fine in smoothbrain ass anime, so long as you are informed of what you've signed up for. Knights of Ramune is a great example of something that is smoothbrain and chock full of fanservice Just Because. Kill La Kill is a good example of Just Because but Also There's a Reason! None of these series pretend to be anything else.
One Piece flips the script partway through, it's a rug pull.
It doesn't do anything in One Piece but make me feel like a 12 year old took up the helm partway through. I say this because I was drawing that exact shit when -I- was 12. It doesn't bring on any endorphins, just skeeves. It doesn't fit what the story is trying to tell. Imagine those designs in Berserk, lmao. It's not a match, it shows up wahaaaay later and people are put off by it.
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u/DJCrystalMethodz Jun 29 '26
Of course it does. Is that truly shocking to you?
I can tolerate it but itās definitely more understandable that people would be turned away than to choose to tolerate it
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u/MyNameIsRay Pirate King Buggy Jun 29 '26
I know a lot of people who see it as creepy/weird and want no part of it.
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u/analogwarrior Jun 29 '26
I enjoy normal or small breats more than big ones, so for me this is no service.
I still enjoy One Piece very much - but the oversexualization is getting annoying sometimes.
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u/attacephalotes423 Jun 29 '26
For me itās the fact that a female fan wrote an innocent fan letter to Oda about how the fan service made her and her friend uncomfortable, so in response he made the post-time-skip designs even more revealing because this grown man felt he needed to dunk on a teenage girl I guess
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u/Lopsided_South1484 Jun 29 '26
I know many people who wouldn't watch one piece because it has too much fanservice and boobs and whatever. But at the same time go crazy about ever single HBO show with ass and dicks and tits all over the screen.
Tbh at least one piece covers everything up and it never goes the "disgusting" route
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u/masterlince Jun 29 '26
Tbh at least one piece covers everything up and it never goes the "disgusting" route
It's not about nudity is about the absurd proportions of the women in one piece, specially the considering that they are the main cast.
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u/matfab91 Jun 29 '26
ā¦and that some of them are underageā¦
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u/Swee_Anon Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Thatās why I hate teen dramaās, basically some old dude/womanās highschool fantasies being played out on screen.
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u/xFallow Jun 29 '26
A naked actor is less weird than whatever the hell robins proportions are doingĀ
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u/bwrca Void Month Survivor Jun 29 '26
The Brook panties thing should have been be cut from the anime. Yeah it's canon but it's an old joke that now just creeps people out.
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u/DG_SlayerSlender Black Leg Sanji Jun 29 '26
I just ignore it for the most part
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u/Dramajunker Jun 30 '26
It's so ingrained into the design at this point that I don't even notice it.
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u/bohenian12 Jun 29 '26
Maybe I'm just old but I don't like it anymore.
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u/Unfamous_Trader Jun 29 '26
Was hot when I was a teenager. Now that im a grown man the fan service is honestly just annoying
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u/Noskmare311 Jun 29 '26
Same here. I think I didn't really notice it as much back when I was younger but I'm 36 now and watching this crazy amount of over-sexualization is honestly annoying to me.
Plus, the live action proves that you can still have hot-ass people doing hot-ass people things without going overly gratuitous with it.
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u/Zaphenzo Jun 29 '26
I think it's gotten much more overdone over the years, too. Like Nami had big boobs pre-time skip too, but they were still at least somewhat believable proportions. And they were more covered up more often, so when she was in a bikini in Skypeia or in the dancer outfit in Alabasta, it was hot. But now she's got like a 10 inch waist, 50 inch boobs, and always is only on a bikini. So it's just too much now.
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u/Tay2823 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Hate it. I feel it draws attention away from the actual story
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u/Bananaramaaaaa Jun 29 '26
I mind it - I really like the story and the humor, but this childish oversexualization of female characters makes it difficult to bring female friends into the story or proudly share it in general.
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u/jouscat Jun 30 '26
Agreed. I really like the story but was almost turned away because of it. I feel hesitant to recommend it to friends as well.
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u/zach0011 Jul 02 '26
I know this is dramatic as fuck but I honestly lost a lot of interest in the manga and anime when they decided to reveal that bonney was a literal child like two chapters after they had her tits hanging out
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u/torts92 Jun 29 '26
Yes I actually do mind especially in the later arcs, because the themes have been getting serious, and it's hard for this story to be taken serious if juvenile fan service is still present. I don't mind fan service in other shows if the premise is silly, for example Roshidere is one of my favourite shows.
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u/Parzival2436 Jun 30 '26
I don't mind it, but it's certainly noticeable.
But I like attractive characters so yeah, generally I don't mind.
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u/shankartz Pirate Jun 30 '26
I don't care either way. It's not something I particularly care for but it's not something I dwell on for being there either. It doesn't effect my enioyment or the story.
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u/RexTheSkibiriToilet Jun 29 '26
Iām a fan, and I want service.
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u/Theory_Maestro Jun 29 '26
I get it, if it's used at the right times and isn't over the top.
The live action managed to make fanservice work by making it more of a unicorn moment.
When done properly, fanservice is great.
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u/Upstairs-Event-681 Jun 29 '26
Donāt care at all about it
I also donāt get why people are so mad about it either, like they keep saying āthe anatomy is offā as an argument but they donāt really care about that. Like they havenāt seen the way people like Garp are built? I donāt see anyone complaining about his anatomy. Itās like theyāre scared of tits
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u/Staarjun Jun 29 '26
Iām going to make the assumption that most people commenting here are Americans but I have noticed this trend of Americans being extremely prude, to the point where they are more offended by nipples than absurd violence and itās quite frankly strange to me.
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u/Visoth Jun 30 '26
I think its mostly Gen Z.
This sort of hatred for fanservice and anything lewd or sexual was not around 10 years ago. This is relatively new, and its especially on Reddit.
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u/Parzival2436 Jun 30 '26
It's gotten a relatively fresh resurgence too. I think the media is genuinely pushing people to ultra-prudishness because powerful companies like paypal and Mastercard are also pulling their services for things that go against their views.
They're using banning NSFW as a springboard but they're definitely not stopping there. SFW LGBT games have already taken a hit because of the same wave of puritanism.
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u/NearEastMugwump Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Not in the slightest.
I may not be as horny as I was as a teenager, but at the same time I don't see fanservice as a negative.
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u/Useful_Jelly_2915 Jun 30 '26
With how many episodes of the show exist, the fan service is not even a single percent of the show. If it bothers you, youāre just being a prude. I get that youāre not hypersexual and thatās fine. But there are people that are and not every aspect of everything has to be tailored to you. There is plenty of media with no goon material for you.
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u/sexyhairynurse Jun 30 '26
The manga is ok. But in the anime..... just annoying.
Fan service should be a treat. Not something you have all the time
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u/larrywaghorn Lurker Jun 30 '26
I'm gonna be honest and say I don't really care lmao I don't even notice it majority of the time. One piece has so many outlandish designs that women being "unrealistic" don't really stick out that much.
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u/TheSkesh Jun 29 '26
Only Redditors would care about it.
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u/efflorae Pirate Jul 01 '26
from how this convo goes every time it comes up compared to conversations about it irl, i would say redditors are actually insanely defensive of the fanservice
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u/malleusouffrance Jun 29 '26
Ruined the show for me. Especially when did it with MINORS. It's so fucking disgusting.
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u/ItsMOJI Jun 29 '26
It doesnt ruin the experience for me but i wish it wasnt there or at least not as often
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u/Jas_Dragon Jun 30 '26
I don't mind too much, but dammit. The anime always makes it worse than it has to be, and sincerely dont understand why. Like it's a waste of money to even animate that shit, imo. Especially when the alternate option is to just... Not?
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u/Thunder_Mage Soul King Brook Jun 29 '26
Years ago (pre-2020) I used to dislike fanservice, but then I realized that redditors who complain about fanservice are 1000x more annoying, so I switched sides and now openly support it in protest.
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u/SAOSurvivor35 Citizen Jun 30 '26
Not particularly. At least itās not THE selling point like a lot of anime at one point. HotD, Monster Musume, High School DXD, etc. where there might have been a story, but it was just an excuse to show off the women. One Piece is story first, fanservice second.
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u/PrincessMold444 God Usopp Jun 30 '26
i'm a straight woman and it doesn't bother me at all when watching the show but sometimes it stands out in art stills (specifically ones of robin) and just looks ridiculous to me š¹š¹ reminds me of that meme that was like "she breasted boob-ily down the stairs"
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u/iRealllyAmThatGuy Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
As someone who grew up on Dragon Ball, it doesn't bother me at all. There has been MUCH worse fan service in older anime, because animators could get away with flashing nudes. Bulma literally flashed her vagina to Roshi and animators sneaked in a boob scene in OG Dragon Ball. Let's not even take about OG Ranma. Straight up nudes all the time.
One Piece fan service is genuinely not even that bad compared to other anime. Some bikini shots and jiggle physics is pretty much lightweight.
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u/Next-Active2676Bro2 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
I like it, but if for some reason it disappeared it wouldn't hinder my enjoyment of the series
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u/Tiny-Soup-2309 Jun 29 '26
It's a bit weird with kids (Bonney, Gunko, Seraphim Hancock), other than that I don't care
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u/Pleasant-Scar-2542 Jun 29 '26
They are pirates who cares
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u/Raid-Z3r0 Jun 29 '26
That is not legend at all. Female pirates used to do that to show the people they were about to kill "look you were killed by a woman".
Pretty sure some dude told them that /j
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u/Academic_Ad_8037 Jun 29 '26
Okay, so thatās inaccurate, because most female pirates were not trying to be found as woman, as seeing as having woman on a crew with lonely and criminal men was a bad idea, and it was seen as bad luck, so that would mean that women on pirate crews would be the captain, which only two record of a female pirate captain is known, being Anne Bonney and Mary Read and records of them are inflated to be more exciting by the press, a female pirate revealing herself would sell headlines, but no concrete proof of it exists outside of news articles, but those might say that to sell more articles and be more shocking.
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u/DanCube102 Jun 29 '26
No, legit who cares, there are bigger problems out there than big booba
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u/Flamey24 Jun 29 '26
What ep is this?
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u/Emotional_Young4738 Jun 29 '26
I think itās from film gold or the short for film gold where they play volleyball
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u/Supevict Explorer Jun 29 '26
Fan service can have value when it makes sense. If Nami was wearing togs in Drum Island and didnāt acknowledge the cold, or wear something over her outfit thatās where I feel it would detract from the story. Sometimes people really do just be wearing nothing or borderline nothing at all, anime characters should be allowed that freedom too. However at some point a line should be drawn, and considering that One Piece is a shonen in which young kids would be drawn to it, I do wish it was toned down some.
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u/villi-eldr Jun 29 '26
I think to get put off by fan service is a bit silly when the anime canvasses so many human topics. Some peoples sex appeal is a real and normal part of life.
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u/blkglfnks Jun 29 '26
It doesnāt make me cringe, nor does it make me aroused. I genuinely never understand why this is even a topic of discussion repeatedly.
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u/Lunasmommie Jun 29 '26
I like fanservice. I mean it makes a lot of people want to watch it more. I donāt mind it.
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u/b3arz3rg3r4Adun Marine Jun 29 '26
Nope. There's the inner caveman part that will always find it appealing to some degree and even if it gets excessive at most it gets me to roll my eyes and I just don't pay it any mind. It's just part of the genre, just like the hero being motivated by friendship and winning through raw force of will in the end.
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u/Lewd_N_Geeky Jun 29 '26
Doesn't matter if "we" like fan service.
We're are not the targeted audience with anime and even manga. Fan service is highly popular and deeply integrated in mainstream Japanese pop culture. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.
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u/SenpaiSwanky Jun 29 '26
I think itās hilarious that this is attributed to Toei more than Oda, because they make the cleavage a bit larger.
Oda is the one designing these outfits and the vast majority of proportions. Oda is the one who makes most females have a smaller torso than actual organs would have room to fit in.
As for whether I care either way, no. Anyone who does should seriously consider not watching anime or reading manga honestly.
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u/Sui_Feng Jun 29 '26
Let them stare. If someone gets flustered over a little skin, that's hardly my problem.
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u/Big_River_ Jun 29 '26
what? its real part of reflecting back the story - who hates boobs?? seriously its what makes one piece extra normal
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u/This_Interview3902 Jun 29 '26
I think the āfan serviceā is a practical narrative device. Lemme ask you this: do you appreciate the character less because theyāre hot?
If so, thatās on you.
Nami and Robin are rich, engaging characters with well laid out backstories and motivations. And all you can do is stare at those fat titties?
Thatās pretty sad, tbh.
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u/Ok-Cupcake-4519 Jun 30 '26
Donāt get me wrong, I have no issue with it, but the anime definitely takes it to a whole other level compared to the manga.
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u/Oystskan Jun 30 '26
Not really, but when I first read manga and watched anime it was a surprise. Not only the amount of boob humour, but alsp pervert characters, and insane levels of violence and bloodshed. It was baffling that this was meant for young boys my age. So, I chocked it up to a difference of culture, and chose to welcome it as a part of the package. It was a new and exciting medium.
I fully understand how off putting it must be to some, and it IS ridiculous if we compare these proportions to RL women. Still, I now juggle between not minding and even liking fan service.
I imagine it must be how it was when people saw Jessica Rabbit for the first time.
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u/three_headed_dog Jun 30 '26
I observe REAL hentai so I am numb to all but the most cringe.
My children are years from caring about all the covered breasts.
The fanservice has no power here
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u/ICantTyping Jun 30 '26
Nami can still be canonically good looking without the ridiculous behemoth badonkers
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u/Legitimate-Ruin6341 Jun 30 '26
Not really?
Iāve always thought itās such a non-issue ngl. If I donāt like something, I just donāt watch it. Iāve never really understood why it bugs some people so much?
Itās hot sometimes and weird at others, but overall I donāt mind it.
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u/Saxman0079 Jun 30 '26
Don't mind it one bit. I just think too many people bring attention to it and it gets more attention than it should
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u/Rjm0007 Jun 30 '26
I do find it a bit funny thereās no problem showing massive amounts of cleavage. But toei goes out of their way to avoid panty shots no matter what when nami is running around and fighting in miniskirts.
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u/Volcarona48 Jun 30 '26
At a certain point, I take a look back and realize I'm just looking at fifty-year-old's drawing of some big bazongas and I feel embarrassed
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u/Juhnuz Jun 30 '26
I hate it. I feel like the level toei pushes it deducts from the actual charaters. I honestly don't even the exaggrated and sexualized bodies even attractive. They fall in the uncanny valley territory for me.
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u/cymdn Scholars of Ohara Jun 30 '26
As a girl, I find it very annoying and unnecessary and I don't get why they still do it. I just ignore it and I'm okay since the female characters are so well written.
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u/Active-Tradition-986 Jun 30 '26
I don't mind the fan service in any media just people complain about it too much which ruin the show for me
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u/Pizzamess Jun 30 '26
Not even a little bit. When I first got into anime most of the popular seasonal shows at the time were ecchi, so I watched a lot of it as a teenage boy. While it doesn't really do anything for me anymore I also barely even notice it anymore.
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u/Due_Stop_1866 Jun 30 '26
Not much, but I do think it should be toned down, like youāre telling me theyāre fighting insanely strong and dangerous people, everyoneās decked out, and then nami is wearing a fucking string bikini
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u/p0ggers__ Jun 29 '26
As a girl, it gets a bit excessive and exhausting by the unrealistic body, but honestly I donāt really care much anymore, I just love one piece
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u/Parzival2436 Jun 30 '26
Unrealistic body is a funny thing to say about One Piece.
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u/Visoth Jun 30 '26
If you think about it, very few characters in One Piece have realistic bodies.
You're either a super-model, or you're a monster. Very little inbetween.
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u/Parzival2436 Jun 30 '26
Basically every single character is varying levels of cartoony caricature.
It just so happens that the "hot lady" caricature attracts these very "forward-thinking" individuals.
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u/Pizzamess Jun 30 '26
Ill be honest One Piece is a weird show to have this complaint for when 90% of major characters do not have "realistic" body types, Men or Women.
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u/Alternative-Path-645 Jun 29 '26
I hope that the remake Will trim down all of it, to priorize the actual plot.
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u/Peace401 Jun 29 '26
Okay that's crazy I knew it was bad but writing "sexy" on there?? šš
That's just so cringe man
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u/Fatkakashi Jun 29 '26
I think people get too worked up over it. I can understand why people get tired of it though.
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u/Pleasesaysorry Jun 29 '26
I enjoy it greatly. Plus I think at this point it is too ingrained into the DNA of the series, so if it ever disappeared think it would feel just wrong.
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u/Chopper_Bear Jun 29 '26
Not at all. š