r/NewsThread • u/yahoonews • 19h ago
Political News House control all but gone, top Republicans privately concede
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/private-top-republicans-believe-house-084500775.html?ncid=redditnewsus105
u/RudeAndInsensitive 19h ago edited 19h ago
I have been assuming the senate will be 50-50 and the dems will get a 15 to 20 seat lead in the house since May. Once they all completely rolled over for Donald they were reliant on him being successful to be successful themselves. They tied their cart to a crazed ox and then shot the teamster and threw his body in a ditch and hoped for the best, didn't work out too well and none of them have anything to run on besides culture war BS.
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u/AdParticular6654 7h ago
I'm assuming 51-49. But then Fetterman makes its 50/50 and a Vance tie break, enough to slow down judge appointments, and stop another huge gift to the wealthy like the obb bill was
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u/g1rlchild 4h ago
I'm really hoping it's 52-48, which is well within the realm of possibility. A full blue tsunami where we carry Kansas (which is polling really close) is 54-46.
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u/Stryke4ce 7h ago
He doesn’t need to be successful. He knows it’s over in two years and he won’t be around to see all of the destruction. He would not want anyone else to come in and get any recognition.
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u/vineyardmike 7h ago
Vote anyway! You're piece of s$it uncle is voting for the local pedophile republican who thinks $7 gas is Obama's fault.
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u/MChaney3563 19h ago
Republicans and "concede" is not a thing because we know they will contest every single damn race. The upcoming midterms is a test of how well they can do this, then again during the elections, but mainly how they can secure Trump from being removed from power/ensuring a Dem can never become president again.
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u/Pockydo 19h ago
I think the best outcome for reps (and one of the worst for america) is Dems get house and reps retain a small majority in Senate
This lets them blame the Dems running the house for all their problematic stuff especially the BBB which is set to hurt soon. So in 28 they can go "see dems bad vote for us again"
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u/Coyoteishere 18h ago edited 18h ago
The federal government also just made RIFs easier avoiding all the red tape normally required. Besides veto power and relentless EOs, the only thing they will have left is control of the departments. I am expecting them to absolutely destroy the rest to the point the average American feels the pain from the lack of federal services, IRS, CDC, SSA, USDA, etc. They will want Americans to see how bad it gets so, like you said, they can point at dems and say “look how much worse it is now!” This also serves P2025 goal of privatizing the gov. Couple that with a financial collapse and these idiots will believe it’s the dems again. Things are going to get much worse before they get better, if they ever do for America again.
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u/OriginalLie9310 18h ago
I doubt they’ll be able to pin things on the Dems that easily.
Obviously the cultists will continue to support them regardless, but the economy has been in major decline since Trump’s inauguration, measles outbreaks and response being botched by the fda, immense numbers of food recalls due to deregulation, and this isn’t even the blatant corruption and unlawful wars Trump is waging.
Yes the cultists will still support their leader, but Trump has destroyed the Republican Party. And he also doesn’t really care as long as things work out the way he wants. When he’s gone it’s all gonna collapse unless they’ve rewritten the constitution by then.
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u/Urabraska- 18h ago
The timing of the cuts is specifically put in because they knew from the get go all this would be unpopular enough that there was a high chance they would lose the midterms.
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u/GearSalty2775 18h ago
Watch the economy crash sometime shortly after the midterms and democrats take all of the blame for it. Just watch.
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u/Ear_Enthusiast 18h ago
Yep, and they'll refuse to confirm anything that they deem "corrupt" on their terms. There will be protests in the streets, and Trump will declare martial law. I 99.9% think that's what is going to happen. I think there is the tiniest chance that the house abandons Trump and his coup, so they can finally be done with him. At this point I think they're committed to the coup. They've come this far, and they're all in.
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u/yahoonews 19h ago
From POLITICO:
Some top congressional Republicans have privately concluded that it is likely impossible for them to keep control of the House of Representatives in the midterm elections, and they are now focused on limiting the scale of the defeat and salvaging the party's Senate majority.
Five senior Republican lawmakers, all granted anonymity to speak candidly about their party's dire position, told POLITICO the House had all but slipped away.
One senior House Republican said the GOP's goal at this point was to "save as many Republican seats as we can." The president, this person said, was not helping.
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u/FineAndDandadan 19h ago
Don't believe anything they say. Everyone needs to go and vote these traitors out of power.
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u/_Big_Bad_Tiddy 18h ago
Imagine what would have happened is Mike Pence wasn't in office on January 6th, and instead was replaced with one of his mega followers. They would have done exactly what Trump asked him to do.
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u/honeybabysweetiedoll 18h ago
You should look up how a new Congress is seated, because what you’re saying can’t happen. You’re just making stuff up and getting angry about it, which is delusional.
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u/Glittering-Prize-241 17h ago
The story of the last ten years is the story of stuff that “can’t happen” actually happening.
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u/UnionHelpful8135 18h ago
For real. There is real doomerism to prep for but “seating” the 2027 congress, nor anything to do with Mike Johnson is one of them.
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u/Anarye 15h ago
Shit man, its what they did to our Airzona representative for 7 weeks.
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u/mdb1023 14h ago
Important context being left out: that was in the middle of a term. Mike Johnson has no power over the new congress unless the GOP wins control of the house by some miracle.
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u/JakeConhale 14h ago
Can only do that obstruction with a Speaker of the House, who doesn't exist until after the incoming Congress is sworn in at their first assembly.
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u/ineugene 15h ago
True but this iteration was already seated after election the whole thing is tossed and restarted as a new congress.
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u/Mr31edudtibboh 13h ago
Don't try and fight the doomerism. Reddit is convinced that Trump is going to somehow be obeyed by the military to the point of bombing American cities, and this too. The same hivemind that was confident in Harris winning 2 years ago.
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u/BeligerentBard 17h ago
The number of things that people have said "can't happen" with this administration is entirely too high to feel comfortable about this.
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u/addiktion 17h ago edited 17h ago
I've read similar but we should expect the worst from this administration. This has never been attempted before but we just don't know where MAGA is going to attempt to stress cracks in the process.
If they knowingly are getting rich off of the corruption and they know they are committing crimes I don't think its unreasonable to assume they will do literally anything to delay, deflect, distract, and destroy our democracy to stay in power.
So I think we need to all be prepared for the worst case scenarios of attempts to undermine our election systems. Whether or not it happens is on the people to decide if they will accept this or not because it seems inevitable with Trump at the helm.
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u/AnewTest 17h ago
Yeah, sure. The Republican Trump cult never has held someone’s swearing in back so there’d be one less Democrat, right?
Oh wait, they did. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5529055-republicans-grijalva-swearing-in-house/amp/
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u/Hot_Water5250 16h ago
I mean what's stopping them from just denying them access and having ICE arrest them for some fake charge?
Legitimately, what is stopping them from rejecting the election and not letting them have access to the building?
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u/VanguardAvenger 14h ago
Executive branch law enforcement have no actual authority on the capital grounds.
And the capital has not 1, not 2, but 3 different law enforcement agencies thay do not anwser to the Executive branch.
And in fact, 2 of those 3 groups are explicitly empowered to bring elected representatives to the floor of congress if they are anywhere in the limits of DC.
And unlike the President, Congress does actually have immunity from arrests in the Consistution if they are executing their offical duties
So I suspect any ICE agent who attempted to detain a Congressman en route to the floor gets arrested themselves.
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u/2h2o22h2o 15h ago
I don’t remember where it is, but there is a clause in the constitution that you can not stop them from traveling to congress.
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u/smokefoot8 14h ago
Sure, they have shown the utmost respect for the Constitution up to this point… /s
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u/Shot-Possibility-399 14h ago
That's a piece of paper. They already tried to overthrow the government. They will try again.
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u/Select_Historian6269 14h ago
Does the constitution actually mean anything at this point?
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u/ChiSaint 15h ago
I mean, what’s stopping them from looking up everyone who made a political donation to the Dems this cycle, rounding them up and imprisoning / executing them?
What you are talking about is a full scale tearing down of the American constitutional system of government. Could they try it? I guess. But that is many steps further than what has been done to date (even including all the shit after the 2020 election).
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u/Youngmastermatt 18h ago
I'm not angry. Thats just how procedure works while systems are in decline. Calvinball.
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u/Frankfranks_it 17h ago
That would be a coup. Very serious indeed. I hope any legislators or officials contemplating this fully comprehend this.
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u/DogsOnMainstreetHowl 17h ago
I agree that this general scenario is likely. But there is big risk. Of Republicans retain the Senate they might accept the results and save official totalitarian power grab for the next presidential election in 2028.
Dems can annoy Trump with the House, but they can’t convict him of anything or stop him from him rolling out a coup in two more years.
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u/abagofsnacks 17h ago
Didn't a few dems win special elections and Johnson dragged out swearing them in for several months?
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u/blippityblue72 16h ago
There will not be a Speaker Johnson. There is no Speaker until the newly sworn-in members of Congress elect one. The previous Speaker has absolutely nothing to do with swearing in the Congress.
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u/GearTwunk 17h ago
Cool story you made up about something that has never happened and can't actually happen. Do you ever get mad about real issues or just the ones you invent for yourself?
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u/LaoBa 16h ago
Storming the Capitol wasn't in my list of things that could happen in the US, either.
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u/Lumpy_Secretary_6128 13h ago
And it accomplished nothing because we have a civil state. Pretending otherwise is just a fantasy that authoritarians and their would-be servants maintenan.
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u/abriefmomentofsanity 11h ago
Yeah I'm a bit tired of "can't happen" being used as some kind of ironclad logic. How many times do we need to see that the system is breaking down and what we thought were the rules clearly aren't anymore before it sticks. Do you have ANY amount of insurance to back of that statement beyond some limp-wristed "but that's illegal" whimpering?
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u/Simple1Spoon 12h ago
Why do people ignore that elections are state run. The speaker has no power over a states elections, especially over a different state then their own.
Do these people get off fear mongering?
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u/ItsMrChristmas 11h ago
And someone who has committed insurrection isn't allowed to hold public office but here we are.
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u/Particular_Milk1848 17h ago
I’ve been saying this a while. These midterm results will never be accepted and will go on until the 2028 presidential election where trump will try to remain in power using these midterms as an excuse.
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u/Lumpy_Secretary_6128 13h ago
Take a civics class because that is not how anything works
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u/FrostyWalrus2 17h ago
I'd more afraid that the Dems win, take their positions, and then everything they pass just isn't followed up on by any executive branch Rs because who's gonna enforce anything? What if the Rs just say no? Impeach and convict? Alright, who's gonna remove them if they don't follow the listed rules and do as they say? What is the military gonna do when leadership are sworn sycophants and follow Trump instead of what was ordered by Congress and law? I hope it doesn't get to that, but the Constitution has already been shown to be a suggestion in all scenarios with the current administration.
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u/Lazy-Background-7598 15h ago
And then you’ll turn around in 2028 and blame the dem for not doing anything and vote Trump for a third term, right?
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u/DoctorSelfosa 16h ago
Plus, Courts could very well invoke the political question doctrine.
That being said this won't happen. Republicans will lose control of the House and go something like 49D-51R in the Senate. It'll be two years of gridlock and extra performative bullshit
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u/mdb1023 15h ago
Jesus Christ, some of you really need to take a civics class.
That is not how it works
The outgoing congress has absolutely zero say over an incoming congress. You're getting the process for swearing in a new congress mixed up with the certification of the votes in a presidential election.
The ongoing Speaker of the House does not have anything to do with swearing in new members. The very first thing that happens is the new congress votes on a new Speaker, and then the new members are sworn in. Neither Mike Johnson nor a "Maga House clerk" have the power or ability to refuse to seat new members.
If an issue were to arise that required intervention from the courts, this isn't something that would be delayed- it would be addressed immediately. Look at the timeliness of events for Bush v Gore if you don't believe me.
And consider this: if it was as simple as you're suggesting it is for politicians to ignore the will of the people, don't you think we would have lost our republic by now?
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u/dzogchenism 15h ago
The suits are not uncharted territory. The scenario you’ve described has happened before and there’s already case law.
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u/VanguardAvenger 14h ago
Speaker Johnson
Who is this "Speaker Johnson" of whom you speak?
Like any federal elected official, the Speaker is automatically stripped of power at the end of their term
As of noon on Jan 3, there is no Speaker of the House until the new house elects one.
So there's no Speaker Johnson, Jackson, Jeffries, Smith, Black, Etc.
a new MAGA House clerk
So funny thing about this: While the Speaker does have the authority to fire the Clerk, they explicitly do not have the power to replace them if they fire them.
If theres a vacancy the power of the Clerks office goes to the Sergeant at Arms office.
So not really seeing how the MAGA guy gets in.
This by the way is why Mike Johnson has publicly stated his considering resigning from congress if Republicans lose.
Hes knows there's nothing he can do.
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u/AffordablePlant 14h ago
Congratulations you’re literally doing the bidding of republicans. When you talk about them like they’ve already won and there’s no reason to vote because what good would that do when they’ll just do whatever they want anyways, you give them that power.
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u/LordCornwalis 14h ago
Yeah, that's not at all how our government works. The people currently in? Their terms are over. They get no say in whether the new Congress is seated or not.
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u/Succulent_Rain 14h ago
Johnson only toes the line because of Trump. The fact that he has said in an interview that he doesn’t know what he’ll do if he loses speaker of the house and that maybe he would go open a lawn business is basically him telegraphing that he is sick and tired of GOP politics and sick and tired of Trump.
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u/LetMeIn1701 13h ago
🤦♀️ this is not helpful. You are doom posting. Stop making claims that will disenfranchise people.
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u/Lumpy_Secretary_6128 13h ago
That's not at all how this works take a civics class before spreading pro-oligarch misinformation
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u/Wind_Best_1440 13h ago
And then the riots start and you get a constitutional crisis that sparks the balkanization of America. Soviet Russia collapsing style.
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u/Past_Point1497 13h ago
what trolls push now is that resistance is pointless and you shouldn't come and vote against Trump
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u/bigchicago04 12h ago
I’m about as doomed as they come, but there’s no “keeping the house and senate.” The current sessions end, and a new one has to begin.
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u/Rattus_NorvegicUwUs 12h ago
No taxation without representation.
Blue states and cities can survive just fine without red state tapeworms leeching all their hard work.
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u/To_Fight_The_Night 11h ago
Blue state Governers would leave the union in this case and we would have a civil war. Kinda the whole point of state government when it was constructed.
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u/Madhatter25224 19h ago
Don't believe any of this. They want you to be complacent. Republicans can only win elections when democrats stay home.
Vote.
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u/Medical_Original6290 19h ago
They're going to steal the election unless there are so many overwhelming votes for Democrats that they can't.
Vote and don't trust this crap, America is very screwed right now and very well may not escape this fascist take over.
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u/DarwinGhoti 18h ago
It’s not over until it’s over. They need to be nuked from orbit so hard that they finally start learning their lessons, the execrable little people. Go vote.
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u/ShitTheFuckDown 18h ago
Probably have a one or two seat lead only for one of the Democrats to be a Manchin or a Sinema or a Fetterman
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u/Tenken10 18h ago
Don't trust any of this. Remember when Reddit said Kamala was gonna win for sure? People need to go out and vote hard. AND be wary of some sort of cheating that might occur. Only a fool would think that these people would stage a government takeover without some sort of plan to continue staying in power
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u/Spare-Amoeba-7060 18h ago
Forget Yahoo’s and their right-wing bullshit. Don’t take this election for granted and VOTE.
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u/Ok_Door_9720 18h ago
Not sure how this is news. That's kinda been a given for several months lol. Republicans only have a narrow majority currently and the economy sucks.
The question is the senate
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u/habbadee 17h ago
Gerrymandered to the fullest extent possible but still not enough to overcome. Now that's losing for you.
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u/LaurenAZGoodGirl 17h ago
“… Bacon, a maverick often at odds with the White House…”
“Maverick?”
“… at odds?”
I call BS!
Rep. Don Bacon sides with Trump 89-92% of the time in his voting, according to sources who trick congressional voting.
But I guess even a broken watch has a carefully-curated spine periodically in today’s MAGA-fied GOP.
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u/KGEOFF89 17h ago
Article( title)s like this foment complacency. Do not let them make you think you don't have to vote. Go vote.
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u/drgnrbrn316 16h ago
I thought the headline was saying that Republicans were accepting that the White House now controls Congress. Which is true. I imagine the only responsibility they have is to report to the president about how large and aesthetically pleasing his genitalia is.
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u/HotBeaver54 15h ago
Don't kid yourself folks make sure you VOTE the republicans all still are Trumps bitches.
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u/Nullspark 15h ago
Vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote
These articles are psyops to make Dems complacent and Republicans scared.
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u/Serious_Bee_2013 15h ago
It’s so hopeful that elections will turn the tide.
To think the party that brought us January 6 would voluntarily give up power because of something as simple as election results is underestimating MAGA.
I hope I am wrong, but most likely what happens is this election already has a finger on the scale, or results will just be tossed if they aren’t GOP favorable.
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u/Hungrycats70 15h ago
Maybe hold off on the defeatist, doom and gloom commentary until after the election? If then.
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u/NOCHILLDYL94 14h ago
All the people saying Mike Johnson will steal this election haven’t been paying attention. They will try. That is a forgone conclusion. There will be shenanigans. Full stop.
But these dweebs always eventually back down. They are cowards. Doesn’t make it any better but they don’t have the spine to commit fully to a coup.
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u/LuferLad 14h ago
Don’t trust any polling or any article. GO VOTE. Articles like this get people to not go to the polls because they think it is a for sure thing. Ignore them all and vote and campaign for friends and family to vote as if the election is a toss up and that every vote matters.
Feelings of “no way they are going to win” is exactly how we got Trump. Don’t be part of the problem.
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u/xHealz 14h ago
People need to start documenting these sentiments and the expectation of poor results for Republicans in the lead up to the midterms.
Because I PROMISE you - as soon as the results start coming in every Republican is going to jump on-board with their unified propaganda that the results are an ANOMALY indicative of RIGGING and FRAUD. They will try to retcon these past few months to brain-break their base into thinking the GOP had some great momentum and support that "suddenly" vanished when the midterm results start coming in.
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u/MycoSteveO 13h ago
"President Trump has made this election all about himself," - oh really? It’s not just the election, it’s the whole flipping planet.
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u/CaptKruncho 13h ago
Dems are not winning. Undecideds will make the choice NOT to go for socialism and will hold their breath and vote Republican. The Dems needs more midle of the road candidates NOT woke communist-socialist retards
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u/Possible-Nectarine80 12h ago
Make it a reality. Get out and vote. No doubt Republicans in purple or even pink districts are probably getting an earful on the campaign trail. Get out and vote people. And make sure to check your voter registration is up to date.
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u/SteelMagnolia941 12h ago
This is dangerous. The last presidential race seemed like a sure thing until interference.
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u/Silver_Middle_7240 11h ago
It is extremely unusual for the party that won the whitehouse to retain the house. It's only happened three times since 1900,
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u/voodoodahl 9h ago
I hope people realize that doomer comments saying Republicans won't accept the results after they lose are just trying you to get you to sit home election day. They're fascist sockpuppets hoping to convince you your vote won't matter.
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u/Tripod7881 8h ago
My hope is that it’s a bluebath and the expiring reps dont go back to dc and we have a complete lame duck till January
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u/kitchencrawl 8h ago
These are Republican psy-ops designed to lull Democratic voters into a false sense of security.
Get out and Vote.
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u/NorthernSlyGuy 7h ago
The party who promised no wars and lower prices did the exact opposite. That'll do it.
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u/too-left-feet 6h ago
Thanks, I guess I’ll focus my ( meager ) weekly donations to US senate seats until the election. It would be best to flip both houses.
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u/MyCassadaga 3h ago
Too bad Elon is just going to tamper with the votes again and they will win overwhelming in every single race considered to be vulnerable. Just watch. I’ve lost all faith. And we’ll do nothing about it. Nothing.
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u/Modnir-Namron 1h ago
Congratulations Congressional Republicans, you had a chance to make a difference. You chose to sit on your hands instead. You allowed one man rule and said NOTHING as you watched our republic decay under one man rule.
The Democrats continue to have no solutions either - they are the reason you had the Senate, House and the White House. You took a historic opportunity and made life worse for every American and former ally. You all sat by and did nothing. Now you will do nothing because you’ll be out of power. You deserve scorn and shame and some of you deserve criminal review. The American people, and our friends abroad didn’t get what they deserve - I hope all of you get what you’ve deserve.
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u/dogsbestfriend77 54m ago
Dems are gonna do a whopping nothing with their power just like the last time they had the house and the senate in 2021
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u/Gonna_B_Alright 19h ago
Senate is going to be blue too because these asshats deserve it after enabling Trump’s bullshit for the last year.
Every opportunity to rein him in and save face but they let him burn their party down.