r/Kenya • u/DueBug9878 • 1d ago
Politics Ruto hate Rant
I think Ruto has diminished the value of the presidency. Everyone and their mother think they can be anything in this country because of money. I saw a billboard of the Karuri the Sportpesa guy saying he want to be Governor of Nairobi. Someone like Mbadi here saying he will be president of Kenya. Joho here saying that he will be president
How I think Ruto has diminished the value is that now everyone with some money to bribe people thinks that they can bribe themselves to power. And here is where I blame Ruto he thinks just because he has stolen our money then he can use that money to bribe us to electing him again.
We need to have a person that shares our national ambition as a country and makes us want to be better people. That is the whole essence of a presidency.
You might not like Uhuru but the things he did made you proud to be Kenyan. For instance burning the ivory tusks instead of selling those are the types of things that just make you proud to be Kenyan. And that is what Ruto is stealing from us he wants to be hopeless and not be proud to be Kenyan, because the moment we as a people lose hope in the country then we become like Tanzanians and Ugandans how just see their country being destroyed and say nothing.
I hate Ruto so much not even for stealing our money but stealing our pride as a nation. He is our collective embarrassment, shame and everything vile that is hidden in this country.
Wantam.
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u/Primary-Ambition9110 1d ago
I remember a time when seeing a president somewhere was a very big deal and usually the president had no time answering critiques unless it was campaign but sai Ruto anataka kujibizana na Methu,sijui Natembeya😂
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u/icarus_ermias 1d ago
😂😂 2nd term loading.
Chill that is his compaign strategy why should you care focus with Your candidate.
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u/Actual-Link4714 1d ago
We need a complete overhaul of the whole political landscape. Something radical. All persons who have held any public office at any point in time should have their tenures and lifestyles closely scrutinised. It is very easy; how much have they paid in taxes? Is it corresponding to what they own? All public land reverting to tge public. All those who have stolen or wasted public funds to be jailed, and barred for life from public office, while giving back everything they own. Let the punishment fit the crime. People have died for decades because of this corruption monster.
This seems to be the only way forward. Our people are to poor and to ignorant to choose leaders who are good for them and reject those who hurt them. You have tribal kingpins like Kalonzo who have done nothing for their people in the decades they have been in government, but still command millions of votes. How does this even make sense?
So how are we to bring about this radical change? Who will bell the cat?
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u/Ok-Age-7471 Diaspora 17h ago
Totally agree. The story of Lee Kuan Yew(Singapore) should be possible - the guy single handedly saved his country from corruption.
None of the leaders wanting to lead the country have spoken exactly how they’ll tackle it (maybe the Maraga guy and the Sifuna guy)
But the latter voted to hide Senetor’s net worth from what I remember
We need better public transparency, stronger conflict of interest act etc
Every year we take a loan to service a 5.5% principal in loans we take which could be paid for by minimizing state leakage
Wantam with a dash of we need a revolution!!
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u/FootballAny6327 1d ago
The fact is money buys u power, ama nipitie msupa wako na BMW M5 huone example......
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u/Lucky_dime 1d ago
Uhuru mwenye Moi alimtoa rehab 2002 ndio unamsifu? Ruto should be debunked kabsa, but let's PLEASE not paint Uhuru who used the presidency kama therapy in good light.
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u/Inner-Leadership-959 1d ago
"You might not like Uhuru...." and other BS. Life is all about compromise and I have been rethinking my hate for Ruto. Maybe I should really ask what we're others doing with my money
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u/Ok-Age-7471 Diaspora 17h ago
Def
Here’s how it looks on loan repayments by the end of their tenures
Kibaki 3%
Uhuru 8-9%
Ruto 12% (6.5% interest, 5.5 principal)100% is our GDP in this analogy
In Uhuru’s time tax revenue shrank and debt went from 17% of GDP to 57%
In short during kibakis time if you had 100bob, 17bob was our debt, but after Uhuru 57bob was our debt and now with Ruto 69bob is our debt
We only pay 6.5 bob per year (interest), and 5.5 bob (principal), but we take a loan immediately because the government can’t support us without that 5.5 bob
The US does this as well, but they take their loans from their people and make more money from thin air because the world depends on them currency.
This is an oversimplified way of viewing it.
As for development Kibaki did a lot with a little
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u/Historical_Peak2745 1d ago
I hear you. That feeling that the seat itself has gotten smaller -that's something a lot of Kenyans are talking about right now.
And what you're pointing at is real. When you see a billboard of Karauri the SportPesa founder who is now Kasarani MP - saying he wants to be Governor of Nairobi, and then you hear John Mbadi saying he'll run for president, and Hassan Joho saying the same, it can feel like the presidency and other big seats are now just open to whoever can raise the most money.
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u/icarus_ermias 1d ago
You can have ambitions. But winning is where an issue is.
Raila tried for decades but didn't manage.
Wewe jaribu MCA then you will see how hard is it to be MCA let alone president.
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u/Top_Objective_511 1d ago
People who support Ruto would argue the opposite that he actually lowered the presidency from an untouchable Mt. Kenya dynasty thing to something a hustler from Sugoi could win. That for the first time, a person without a famous last name won against the system. To them, Karuri or Mbadi or Joho thinking they can run is not a bug, it's proof that the presidency is no longer reserved for two families.
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u/icarus_ermias 1d ago
Moi was not known. He was a teacher and he ruled for 24Years.
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u/middlofthebrook 1d ago
The opposite is true though, cant trust a brokie with money
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u/icarus_ermias 1d ago
Kibaki too was not known.
Y'all overestimate money.
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u/OOHTAMTAMMY 20h ago
Kibaki was in government for 30 years before becoming president. You don’t understand the level of national popularity you have to have to be fronted as a presidential candidate. That’s not how it works
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u/G00nerOO1 1d ago
Both can be true, that Ruto was not from Mt Kenya and that he's the most clueless president we've ever had.
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u/icarus_ermias 1d ago
We understand the pain but...
Kaa vizuri dawa iingie. 😂
10 Years my guy.
10 Years.
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u/G00nerOO1 17h ago
What has he done to desere a second term? Why should my vote change to be for Ruto?
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u/icarus_ermias 15h ago
Nobody deserves anything. It is all ambitions.
He has ambitions and some of us will vote for him to fulfill his ambitions.
Nobody has to do anything for 2nd term.
If last 60 years Kenya didn't change. It won't change miraculously because you made Ruto Oneterm.
But worry not.
2027 tutaapisha Samoei Kipchirchir Morning.
Pick your Candidate tukutane uwanjani.
Goodluck.
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u/G00nerOO1 14h ago
Consistent. You tutam people don't give reasons as to why anyone should vote for the president... because there are none!
He run and won on a development agenda to help hustlers, turn around the economy, lower the price of jey commodities, end injustices, etc. But now you can't give a reason why he should be reelected.
You talk about ambitions. His ambitions seem to be amassing wealth and power, rather than benefit the common Kenya . But if you know other ambitions, please share them with me!
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u/icarus_ermias 13h ago
Ambition of him getting 2nd term. What is wrong with it.
Chill bois. Ruto atakua elected for 2nd term. You can have an alternative and campaign for it.
Achana sisi Tutermers.
Or better.
Give me the alternative with agenda apart from Wantam low IQ chants.
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u/G00nerOO1 12h ago
What's wrong with it? Circular reasoning is what's wrong. You can't say we should give him a second term because his ambition is to get a second term.
Drom your reasoning you're either a state agent (NIS or State House comms), or you are directly benefitting from corruption, au huyu ni kijana wenu. My suspicion is yeye ni mtu wenu 😅
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u/icarus_ermias 12h ago
He has provided what we people from western want.
You see. Our needs are different. Wewe need yako na yangu si same. Let him solve my problem yako huyo mwenye utavote will fix it.
Reasons to vote for him:
UDA agenda is public. Stop being lazy.
2nd he is a performer. Don't take my word for it.
https://tracker.mzalendo.com/long-term-goals/
You can also look at short-term goal.
The boy from Sugoi is performing. And will get my vote for it.
I can argue also
Alifukuza kijana yenu ndo maan uko bitter. 😂
Usijali Kikuyu entitlement itapungua. 😀
Acha wengine wapokee maendeleo bois.
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u/G00nerOO1 11h ago
I like what you've said on your needs being met. Perfectly acceptable reason.
On performance, you have shared a link that shows in 4 years and 3 months NOT ONE PROMISE has been fulfilled (that is, from your link). Mandem is clearly busy but not accomplishing anything 😅
You tutam people always result to the Kikuyu card. Inye omukosi? If hating Ruto means one is a Kikuyu, then yes... we are all Kikuyus.
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u/Holiday_Ad6506 13h ago
What did Uhuru do to deserve a second term? What did Kibaki not do that he had to allegedly rig a second term? I think most Kenyans not approaching this issue with "mtu yetu" tribal bias and emotions can agree that Ruto is an incompetent president in that he is not making Kenyans day to day life any easier despite building projects that will be very beneficial to the nation especially dualling the Rironi-Mau-Kisumu-Malaba road and extending the SGR too which should have been done by Kibaki and Uhuru in their 20 years in power. Uhuru Kenyatta was an incompetent and extremely corrupt president just like his father, smiling while looting the nation dry, taking on massive debts and dooming the future of young Kenyans with endless debt. Uhuru unlike Ruto was named in the pandora papers as one of the most corrupt world leaders who loot from their nations and hide the loot in offshore accounts. If young Kenyans were serious about good governance and reform before shouting "wantam" they would first draft a strategy of reform around the extreme corruption of the Kenyatta family from lands, SGR, expressway, Northlands, Brookside etc but instead "wantam" is just another plot to replace the thief from another village with the thief from your own village. Ruto is not worse than pandora paper Uhuru and the impeached Gachagua with his self proclaimed 50% government share will not be better than Ruto.
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u/G00nerOO1 12h ago
While I totally agree that Uhuru was a useless waste of 10 yesrs, it is silly to bring him up as he is not a candidate for elective office, so the comparison does not apply.
If you want to discuss Kibaki, the economy improved (everyone had money in their pockets, unemployment was decreasing, we got out of a recession, and our debt was headed in the right direction. Until the cursed duo of UhuRuto came in and undid everything Kibaki had done.
Once again... you have also not given any reason why anyone should vote Ruto other than other presidents were bad. Well, if they were bad then lets not vote for Kibaki, Uhuru and especially not Ruto 😅
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u/icarus_ermias 12h ago
Kibaki was a tribalist and useless president Kenya had.
All development mnaclaim alifanya he did it in Mount Kenya and Nairobi.
If you think I am wrong.
Name 2 Project Kibaki did out of Central and Nairobi?
Don't bring Free education BS. Name the projects.
Plus Thika Super Highway is just 50KM Uhuru was very incompetent but did better than Kibaki.
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u/Future-Bar9464 1d ago
At this rate, the only qualification needed to lead Kenya will be a good M-Pesa balance. 😂
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u/Martubay 1d ago
You cant be sure Uhuru destroyed those tusks
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u/DueBug9878 19h ago
Yes but you can be sure that Ruto is constantly abusing us every single day for wanting him out. At that there is no argument about it
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u/Martubay 16h ago
True. Me i say those two are one and the same. Their original deal was kula this round minikule next round n we protect each other. Deal of a lifetime! The rest is just games on us
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u/Pristine_Peanut5349 17h ago
Mimi nashangaa tu how much enough is. This is greed embodied. Yaani everyday something is being looted, zero concern for the common mwananchi. Today i heard the free Healthcare system in Muranga has been shut down unannounced so they join a paid SHA system yet Healthcare is devolved!
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u/karinato 12h ago
let me join my fellow kenyans and those who have done it before me this morning and those who will do it later to say WANTAM
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u/icarus_ermias 1d ago
Chunga wivu isikunyonge bois 😂
Unaeza kufa juu ya wivu.
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u/DueBug9878 1d ago
Define wivu, wivu you mean jealousy I am not jealous of Ruto I hate and despise him with everything. So no Sina wivu for Ruto because it would mean I am envious of him, he just disgusts me.
I want him to leave office so that we don't see him everyday and everything he does will stop being News.
The most amazing thing once he loses he will never see the presidency again unless Governor huko Sugoi
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u/icarus_ermias 1d ago
Chill. Hiyo hate itaisha tu.
Actually he doesn't want your vote. Amekuja akakuomba personally?
You can give your vote to sifuna all we care. But in Aug 2027 Kipchirchir will be president of Kenya for 2nd term.
Whether you or your whole family 😂.
Mtaapisha Wiliam Upende usipende.
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u/DueBug9878 20h ago
Iyo hate will only end when he eventually dies of some horrible disease and still then I will be praying he is in hell burning every day.
Hiyo kiburi yako itaisha tu August next year akienda home, na hakuna anything you or Ruto will do ataenda Sugoi kama court cases zimeanza
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u/icarus_ermias 15h ago
Moi was hated. 😂
But the dude went straight 24 Years.
Actually died at 100 or 98eish.
Your hate is unfounded and means nothing.
You will buy your 10mb and you will be satisfied.
Again. Come 2027.
Tutawanyorosha😂 anyway
Your vote weigh same as mine.
Maintain peace. Hate poverty not Ruto.
Politics usieke kwa roho wajinga pekee ndo wanaweka kwa roho.
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u/DueBug9878 15h ago
I don't hate poverty I hate Ruto it's that simple. This is not 1980s or even 2007. You need 50 + 1 and that you need votes. Talk trash all your want but you know deep down Ruto is losing and he is losing terribly. Anyway your love for Ruto is justified and I would not want you to vote for anyone else. We want to defeat you guys will all your strength so that you know kenyana have the last say
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u/icarus_ermias 15h ago
Good.
It seems all we have to do is wait.
Aug 2027 will decide.
Just know... Just because you hate Ruto does not mean everyone do so.
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u/middlofthebrook 1d ago
Kenya is going downhill fast because of him. International business is pulling out and taking theur jobs elsewhere because they are tired of the corruption. Kenya is becoming the new Nigeria, with sharp boys scanming and slay queens selling their bodies