r/IsraelPalestine • • 2d ago

Other A comprehensive list of peace seeking influencers and organizations in Israel and Palestine

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yes-but's thread and the corresponding comments underneath it got me thinking that the organizations that are trying to bring Israelis and Palestinians together probably don't get enough attention. So I did a bit of research last night and today and came up with a list of individuals and organizations, what they do, and where to find them. There are some questionable inclusions that I understand some people might not agree with, but I've included them all the same. If you truly think sometime should be taken down or added, please make your case for it. Link this thread the next time someone asks. Organizations are in my first comment.

1. Palestinian individuals

Name What they do
Ali Abu Awwad Abu Awwad founded Taghyeer and organizes Palestinians around nonviolent action. His work combines local civic organizing with dialogue that recognizes the needs of both peoples. Mightycause
Aziz Abu Sarah Abu Sarah co-leads InterAct and co-founded MEJDI Tours. He brings Palestinians and Israelis together through joint leadership, public advocacy and travel that presents both communities’ experiences. Aziz Abu Sarah
Samer Sinijlawi Sinijlawi co-leads the Alliance for Two States with Gershon Baskin. They advocate mutual recognition, an independent Palestinian state and a political partnership between the two peoples. Gershon Baskin on Substack
Nidal Foqaha Foqaha leads the Palestinian Peace Coalition, the Palestinian side of the Geneva Initiative. His work combines joint policy proposals, activist training and diplomacy aimed at a negotiated settlement. Geneva Initiative
Nasser al-Kidwa (al-Qudwa) Al-Kidwa is a former Palestinian foreign minister who developed a joint peace proposal with former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert. They advocate a negotiated two-state settlement. Sciences Po
Hiba Husseini Husseini is a lawyer and negotiations adviser who has worked with Yossi Beilin on a confederation proposal. Their plan would link two sovereign states through agreed arrangements. Michigan State University
Salam Fayyad Fayyad is a former Palestinian prime minister who argues for accountable Palestinian institutions and a credible political path to statehood. Columbia University’s Institute of Global Politics
Ghaith al-Omari Al-Omari is a former Palestinian negotiator and policy analyst. His published work argues for reforming Palestinian governance and reaching a negotiated settlement with Israel. The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
Hiba Qasas Qasas is the founding executive director of Principles for Peace. Through Uniting for a Shared Future, she brings Palestinian and Israeli political, business and civil-society leaders together to develop political proposals. Principles for Peace
Mohammed Dajani Daoudi Dajani founded Wasatia. He promotes religious moderation, Holocaust education and dialogue that recognizes both Palestinian and Israeli claims to a future in the land. German Institute for Global and Area Studies (GIGA)
Sami Awad Awad founded Holy Land Trust and co-directs Nonviolence International. He teaches nonviolent leadership and works on reconciliation, including encounters that address the trauma people bring into the conflict. Sami Awad
Mubarak Awad Awad founded Nonviolence International. He develops nonviolent organizing and peace education that give Palestinians practical ways to act politically without resorting to violence. Nonviolence International
Jonathan Kuttab Kuttab is a lawyer and co-founder of Nonviolence International. He advocates nonviolence and equal rights for Palestinians and Israelis. Nonviolence International
Mohammed Abu-Nimer Abu-Nimer studies and teaches conflict resolution. His work includes interreligious dialogue and training in Israel and Palestine. Nonviolence International
Zoughbi Zoughbi Zoughbi founded Wi’am. He uses community mediation and nonviolence education to resolve disputes and repair relationships damaged by conflict. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
Daoud Nassar Nassar leads Tent of Nations on his family’s farm. He hosts visitors and teaches nonviolent resistance and reconciliation through the farm’s work. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
Izzeldin Abuelaish Abuelaish is a physician who founded Daughters for Life after losing daughters in the conflict. He advocates reconciliation and expands educational opportunities for women. Daughters for Life Foundation
Reem al-Hajajreh Al-Hajajreh founded Women of the Sun. She organizes Palestinian women and works with Israel’s Women Wage Peace to press for a negotiated resolution. Women of the Sun
Huda Abuarquob Abuarquob is a peacebuilding consultant and former ALLMEP regional director. She works on women’s leadership, grassroots organizing and dialogue between communities. Diplomeds
Nivine Sandouka Sandouka is ALLMEP’s regional director. She helps Palestinian and Israeli civic organizations work together and supports women’s participation in that work. Alliance for Middle East Peace (ALLMEP)
Rana Salman Salman was identified as Combatants for Peace’s Palestinian co-director in 2025 reporting. Her work centers on joint nonviolent action and reconciliation with Israelis. Bittersweet Monthly
Sulaiman (Souli) Khatib Khatib co-founded Combatants for Peace. He speaks about his own transition from imprisonment to nonviolence and organizes joint Palestinian and Israeli action. Combatants for Peace
Bassam Aramin Aramin is a bereaved father involved with Parents Circle and Combatants for Peace. He speaks alongside Israelis about rejecting revenge and ending the conflict. Combatants for Peace
Layla Alsheikh Alsheikh speaks through Parents Circle about her son’s death and her subsequent work with Israeli bereaved families. She uses those encounters to argue for reconciliation. Harvard Divinity School
Arab Aramin Aramin is an activist from a bereaved family. He takes part in joint conversations that challenge dehumanization and the cycle of retaliation. The On Being Project
Mohamed Abu Jafar Abu Jafar is a Parents Circle activist. He speaks about Palestinian bereavement in public encounters intended to build understanding and reconciliation. The On Being Project
Ahmed Helou Helou is a former Hamas member and a Combatants for Peace activist. He publicly explains his move toward nonviolence and reconciliation with Israelis. American Friends of Combatants for Peace
Khaled Abu Awwad Abu Awwad is Roots’ Palestinian co-director. He brings neighboring Palestinians and Israelis into sustained dialogue based on mutual recognition. Friends of Roots
Noor A’wad A’wad is a Roots spokesperson and dialogue organizer. He presents Palestinian experiences while building relationships with Israeli neighbors. Friends of Roots
Amnah Tabouk Tabouk coordinates Roots’ women’s program. She brings Palestinian and Israeli women together to develop relationships across the conflict. Friends of Roots
Shadi Abu Awwad Abu Awwad speaks through Roots and related public events. He presents Palestinian experiences to audiences abroad and encourages direct dialogue. Friends of Roots
Awni al-Mashni Al-Mashni co-founded A Land for All. He advocates Palestinian sovereignty within a confederation that recognizes both peoples’ national rights. A Land for All
Rula Hardal Hardal is A Land for All’s Palestinian co-director. She advocates two sovereign states with shared arrangements and equal rights. CNN
Thabet Abu Rass Abu Rass is a Palestinian citizen of Israel and a board co-chair of A Land for All. He advocates equality between Jewish and Arab citizens and supports the movement’s political work. A Land for All
Fakhira Haloun Haloun works with A Land for All. She builds Palestinian partnerships and engages the diaspora around its proposal for an Israeli-Palestinian confederation. A Land for All
Qais As’ad As’ad heads A Land for All’s Palestinian public department. He works to expand Palestinian participation in the movement and its political proposals. A Land for All
Rula Daood Daood is a Palestinian citizen of Israel and a Standing Together leader. She organizes joint Jewish and Arab campaigns for peace and equality. Standing Together
Sally Abed Abed is a Palestinian citizen of Israel and a Standing Together organizer. She builds Jewish and Arab political cooperation against war and inequality. Standing Together
Mohammad Darawshe Darawshe works on shared Jewish and Arab society at Givat Haviva. His work includes education, civic partnerships and practical efforts to make equality part of everyday life. Friends of Givat Haviva
Rana Fahoum Fahoum is a Palestinian citizen of Israel who leads shared-society work at the Shalom Hartman Institute. She also serves on ALLMEP’s board. Alliance for Middle East Peace (ALLMEP)
Samah Salaime Salaime is a Palestinian feminist and a leader in Wahat al-Salam-Neve Shalom. She combines women’s rights advocacy with work in a community where Jews and Palestinians live together. National Council of Jewish Women
Ghadir Hani Hani is a Palestinian citizen of Israel who organizes women’s leadership, Jewish and Arab cooperation, and interfaith peace activism. Hagar Association
Nada Majdalani Majdalani is EcoPeace’s Palestinian director. She works on water, environmental and climate cooperation as concrete areas where Palestinians and Israelis can act together. UCLA
Tareq Abu Hamed Abu Hamed is a Palestinian environmental scientist and the Arava Institute’s executive director. He brings students and researchers from across the region together to work on shared environmental problems. Arava Institute for Environmental Studies
Ibrahim Issa Issa directs Hope Flowers School. He makes peace education, democratic values and trauma support part of Palestinian children’s schooling. Living Spirituality Connections
Manar Wahhab Vosgueritchan Wahhab Vosgueritchan co-founded House of Hope and serves as its educational director. She develops nonviolent education and community support in al-Eizariya. House of Hope
Wisam Ziadeh Ziadeh leads Takadom for Peace. He works with Palestinian youth and women on nonviolence, dialogue and participation in civic life. MENA2050
Salim J. Munayer Munayer founded Musalaha and serves as a senior consultant. He works on reconciliation through sustained relationships between Palestinians and Israelis. Musalaha
Daniel Munayer Munayer is Musalaha’s executive director. He leads reconciliation programs that address identity, relationships and how people respond to conflict. Musalaha
Hamze Awawde Awawde is a conflict-resolution practitioner and writer. He advocates direct engagement and criticizes peace work that is performative or fails to produce meaningful results. Hamze Awawde on Substack
Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib Alkhatib founded Realign for Palestine. He advocates Palestinian self-determination and practical political engagement while rejecting Hamas’s violence and governance. Atlantic Council
John Aziz Aziz is a British-Palestinian writer. He argues for compromise, coexistence and a negotiated resolution that recognizes both peoples. John Aziz on Substack
Hamza Howidy Howidy is a Gazan dissident and human-rights advocate. He challenges Hamas and argues for a peaceful future for Palestinians and Israelis. Realign for Palestine
Adnan Jaber Jaber founded PeaceTech Group. He promotes technology, direct engagement and coexistence as ways for Palestinians and Israelis to work together. Realign for Palestine
Bahea Manasra Manasra is a Palestinian-American advocate. She supports a two-state outcome that recognizes the national aspirations of both peoples. Realign for Palestine
Jaser Abu Mousa Abu Mousa is a Palestinian analyst. He argues for a peaceful political settlement and national self-determination for Palestinians and Israelis. Realign for Palestine
Iman Saadah Saadah is a researcher and public voice from Hebron. She emphasizes dialogue, direct engagement and recognizing the humanity of people across the conflict. Realign for Palestine
Rami Aman Aman founded the Gaza Youth Committee and organized contact between Gazans and Israelis. His later public advocacy continues to argue for peaceful civic engagement. The Jewish Independent
Mira Awad Awad is a singer, activist and Palestinian citizen of Israel. She works with Israeli artists and young people on music projects and public advocacy for peace. Beit of Hope
Nabeel Abboud-Ashkar Abboud-Ashkar co-founded Polyphony and serves as its executive director. He brings Arab and Jewish young people together through music education and joint performances. Polyphony
Ibrahim Abu Ahmad Abu Ahmad is a Palestinian citizen of Israel who was profiled in 2023 as an Unapologetic co-host and an analyst associated with ROPES. He presents Palestinian perspectives that support coexistence. The Jerusalem Post
Amira Mohammed Mohammed is a Palestinian from East Jerusalem who was profiled in 2023 as an Unapologetic co-host. She brings Palestinian perspectives into difficult conversations across the conflict. The Jerusalem Post
Basheer Abu Baker Abu Baker is a Palestinian citizen of Israel and an Amal-Tikva co-founder. He helps peace organizations improve their operations and finances. Amal-Tikva
Ghadeer Sabat-Kort Sabat-Kort is an Amal-Tikva co-founder and operations leader from Jerusalem. She helps build the systems that joint peace organizations need to carry out their work. Amal-Tikva
Seba Abudaqa Abudaqa is a Gazan who co-founded Clean Shelter with Israeli Tom Kellner. Their partnership provides water, sanitation and shelter assistance to displaced Gazans. Beit of Hope
Rawan Bisharat Bisharat is a Palestinian citizen of Israel who was appointed director of the School for Peace in August 2026. She leads its work on dialogue and conflict resolution. Wahat al-Salam-Neve Shalom
Wasim Almasri Almasri is an ALLMEP program leader of Palestinian background. He connects grassroots organizations and helps them develop peace work across borders. Alliance for Middle East Peace (ALLMEP)
Issa Amro Amro founded Youth Against Settlements. He organizes nonviolent resistance and documents occupation and displacement in Hebron. Right Livelihood
Osama Eliwat Eliwat is an activist associated with Combatants for Peace. In 2024 reporting, he spoke alongside Israelis about moving from hostility to nonviolent partnership. analyse & kritik
Mohamed Jamous Jamous is a peace activist and humanitarian from Ramallah. He builds relationships between communities and advocates Palestinian-Israeli coexistence. Realign for Palestine

2. Israeli individuals

Name What they do
Gershon Baskin Baskin is a veteran negotiator who co-leads the Alliance for Two States with Samer Sinijlawi. He works with Palestinian partners on direct engagement and mutual recognition. Gershon Baskin on Substack
Maoz Inon Inon co-leads InterAct. After his parents were murdered on October 7, he began campaigning with Aziz Abu Sarah for a shared Palestinian and Israeli future. New Israel Fund
Ehud Olmert Olmert is a former Israeli prime minister who developed a joint peace proposal with Nasser al-Kidwa. They advocate a negotiated two-state settlement. Sciences Po
Yossi Beilin Beilin is a former minister and an architect of the Geneva Initiative. He has worked with Hiba Husseini on a proposal for two sovereign states linked in a confederation. Michigan State University
Ami Ayalon Ayalon is a former Shin Bet chief and navy commander. He argues that Palestinian statehood and a political settlement are essential to Israeli security. Jewish News
Shaul Arieli Arieli is a former negotiator and a specialist in borders. He uses maps and demographic research to develop workable territorial arrangements for a political settlement. Shaul Arieli
Gadi Baltiansky Baltiansky directs the Israeli side of the Geneva Initiative. He organizes public education, diplomacy and joint work with Palestinians for a negotiated two-state settlement. Geneva Initiative
Nimrod Goren Goren founded Mitvim and serves as its president. He works on regional diplomacy and policy proposals aimed at reaching Israeli-Palestinian peace. Mitvim
Ksenia Svetlova Svetlova is a former Knesset member and ROPES’ executive director. She connects Israeli, Palestinian and regional leaders through political and economic cooperation. Arab Gulf States Institute
Daniel Seidemann Seidemann founded Terrestrial Jerusalem. He documents Jerusalem’s political geography and advises on arrangements that could support an agreed settlement. Terrestrial Jerusalem
Alon Liel Liel is a former senior diplomat. He advocates recognition of Palestine and renewed international involvement in negotiating a settlement. IRIS
Ilan Baruch Baruch is a former ambassador. He campaigns for Palestinian statehood, renewed diplomacy and an end to indefinite occupation. IRIS
Nadav Tamir Tamir is a former diplomat who advocates a regional political framework. His approach connects an Israeli-Palestinian settlement with normalization between Israel and Arab states. Principles for Peace
May Pundak Pundak is A Land for All’s Israeli co-director. She works on a confederation based on national sovereignty, equality and shared arrangements. CNN
Meron Rapoport Rapoport co-founded A Land for All. He advocates two states within a shared homeland and mutual recognition of both peoples’ national rights. A Land for All
Yael Berda Berda is a sociologist and a board co-chair of A Land for All. She contributes research on institutions to the movement’s proposal for a confederation. A Land for All
Oren Yiftachel Yiftachel is a political geographer associated with A Land for All. He develops and explains confederation proposals as alternatives to permanent domination of one people by another. A Land for All
Alon-Lee Green Green co-founded Standing Together. He organizes joint Jewish and Arab campaigns for peace, Palestinian freedom and Israeli security. UK Friends of Standing Together
Uri Weltmann Weltmann is a Standing Together organizer. He brings Jewish and Arab citizens into joint campaigns against war and for equality. Standing Together
Itamar Avneri Avneri co-founded Standing Together. He builds Jewish and Arab political partnerships through grassroots organizing and peace campaigns. Standing Together
Robi Damelin Damelin is a bereaved mother and a Parents Circle spokesperson. She leads reconciliation encounters alongside Palestinian bereaved families. The On Being Project
Rami Elhanan Elhanan is a bereaved father and a longstanding Parents Circle leader. He speaks with Bassam Aramin about rejecting revenge and ending the conflict. American Friends of the Parents Circle
Liora Eilon Eilon is a bereaved mother who participates in Parents Circle. She brings her experience of October 7 into reconciliation work with Palestinians. The On Being Project
Elana Kaminka Kaminka is a bereaved mother and peace activist. Her documented work includes reconciliation advocacy, practical solidarity and volunteering to help Palestinians reach medical treatment; the linked event dates to 2024. American Friends of the Parents Circle
Avner Wishnitzer Wishnitzer is a former soldier who co-founded Combatants for Peace. He advocates joint nonviolent action, reconciliation and an end to occupation. American Friends of Combatants for Peace
Chen Alon Alon co-founded Combatants for Peace and works in theater. He uses dialogue and theater to help people examine the conflict and change how they relate to one another. Combatants for Peace
Eszter Koranyi Koranyi was identified as Combatants for Peace’s Israeli co-director in 2025 reporting. She organizes joint nonviolent action and Palestinian-Israeli cooperation. Bittersweet Monthly
Noa Harell Harell is a former soldier and a Combatants for Peace activist. She speaks in joint educational events about her move toward nonviolence. Alliance for Middle East Peace (ALLMEP)
Rotem Levin Levin is a physician and reconciliation activist. In 2024 reporting, he spoke with Osama Eliwat about trauma, nonviolence and moving beyond hostility. analyse & kritik
Hanan Schlesinger Schlesinger is an Orthodox rabbi who co-founded Roots. He brings settlers and neighboring Palestinians into dialogue that recognizes both peoples’ connection to the land. Rabbi Hanan Schlesinger
Shaul Judelman Judelman is Roots’ Israeli co-director. He organizes encounters between religious Israelis and their Palestinian neighbors. Friends of Roots
Hadassah Froman Froman is a religious activist associated with Roots. She connects her religious commitments with recognition of Palestinian neighbors and their place in the land. Friends of Roots
Eliaz Cohen Cohen is a poet and a founding Roots activist. He works on direct dialogue between settlers and Palestinians. Friends of Roots
Ethel Melka Melka co-directs Roots’ Israeli program. She develops encounters and relationships between Israelis and Palestinians. Friends of Roots
Gideon Elazar Elazar is a scholar and a founding Roots activist. He contributes to dialogue between communities that takes their religious commitments seriously. Friends of Roots
Myron Joshua Joshua is a founding Roots activist. He works to build relationships between Israeli and Palestinian neighbors. Friends of Roots
Yael Admi Admi co-founded Women Wage Peace. She organizes women to press for an agreed political resolution and works in partnership with Palestinian women. Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace and Security
Yael Braudo-Bahat Braudo-Bahat co-directs Women Wage Peace. She organizes Israeli women and develops the movement’s partnership with Women of the Sun. InterAct
Avi Dabush Dabush leads Rabbis for Human Rights. He connects Jewish religious commitments with Palestinian rights, civilian protection and advocacy for peace. New Israel Fund
Arik Ascherman Ascherman founded Torat Tzedek. He organizes a nonviolent protective presence for Palestinians facing violence and displacement. Torat Tzedek
Mikhael Manekin Manekin organizes with Faithful Left. He works to build a religious Jewish constituency against occupation and for equality and peace. Van Leer Jerusalem Institute
Michael Melchior Melchior is a rabbi and former minister. He works on religious diplomacy involving Jewish, Muslim and Christian leaders. SBS
Amichai Lau-Lavie Lau-Lavie is an Israeli-American rabbi. He supports Palestinian rights, religious efforts for peace and solidarity between communities. Amichai Lau-Lavie
Ron Kronish Kronish is a rabbi who works on interreligious dialogue. He promotes Jewish and Arab understanding through direct encounters and peace education. The Times of Israel Blogs
Gidon Bromberg Bromberg co-founded EcoPeace and serves as its Israeli director. He works on water and environmental agreements that address shared needs and support peace. UCLA
Yuval Roth Roth founded Road to Recovery. He built a volunteer transport network that takes Palestinian patients to treatment in Israel and creates personal relationships through that work. Road to Recovery
Yael Noy Noy leads Road to Recovery. She keeps medical transport operating and develops relationships between Israeli volunteers and Palestinian patients. The Good People Fund
Danny Hakim Hakim founded Budo for Peace. He uses martial arts to teach respect and bring Arab and Jewish participants together. Alliance for Middle East Peace (ALLMEP)
Meredith Rothbart Rothbart co-founded Amal-Tikva and serves as its CEO. She helps peace organizations improve their strategy, funding and day-to-day operations. Amal-Tikva
Achinoam Nini (Noa) Nini is a singer who founded Noa’s Ark. She organizes Palestinian-Israeli artistic collaboration and uses her public work to advocate peace. Noa
David Broza Broza is a singer-songwriter who develops Palestinian-Israeli musical projects. He uses performances and education to encourage dialogue. David Broza
Yael Deckelbaum Deckelbaum is a singer and activist. Through music and the Prayer of the Mothers project, she supports women organizing for peace. Yael Deckelbaum
Daniel Barenboim Barenboim is a conductor who co-founded the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra. He brings Israeli, Palestinian and other regional musicians into sustained artistic cooperation. West-Eastern Divan Orchestra
David Grossman Grossman is a novelist and bereaved father. He uses his public platform to argue for an end to war and a two-state settlement. The Guardian
Tomer Cohen Cohen co-founded Tech2Peace. He brings young Palestinians and Israelis together through technology training, entrepreneurship and dialogue. Tech2Peace
Uri Rosenberg Rosenberg co-founded Tech2Peace. He builds a community in which Palestinians and Israelis work together professionally and take part in sustained dialogue. Tech2Peace
Ofer Dagan Dagan co-directs Sikkuy-Aufoq. He works with Palestinian colleagues on equal access to public resources and shared civic life. Sikkuy-Aufoq
Amnon Be’eri-Sulitzeanu Be’eri-Sulitzeanu was profiled in 2024 as a co-leader of the Abraham Initiatives. His work develops policies and programs for Jewish and Arab equality and shared citizenship. Partners for Progressive Israel
Lee Gordon Gordon co-founded Hand in Hand. He helped build integrated Arabic-Hebrew schools and communities for Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel. Institute of International Education
Doubi Schwartz Schwartz leads membership relations at ALLMEP and previously co-directed Parents Circle. He helps peace organizations collaborate. Alliance for Middle East Peace (ALLMEP)
Tom Kellner Kellner is the Israeli co-founder of Clean Shelter, alongside Gazan Seba Abudaqa. Their partnership provides displaced Gazans with water, sanitation and shelter infrastructure. Beit of Hope

r/IsraelPalestine • • 4d ago

News/Politics Built a 538-style dashboard for Israel's election

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theelectiondashboard.com

Israel's election season just started. Below is a summary I wrote of where things currently stand and who the major players are:

Neither of the two major bloc reaches 61 on their own right now, based on the latest polls. The Netanyahu camp (consisting of Likud, Shas, UTJ, Otzma Yehudit, and Religious Zionism) sits around low 50's, which is ~nine short of a majority government and far below where it governed from after the 2022 election. The anti-Netanyahu bloc does a little better at roughly 58 seats, but that's still a few seats short from what they need.

As the numbers currently stand, a major path to 61 runs through Mansour Abbas's Ra'am party. Ra'am is the one Arab list that has sat in an Israeli government before, in the 2021 Bennett–Lapid coalition, a first in Israel's history. Add its ~5 seats to the change bloc and you can get past 61. Netanyahu's partners have ruled out sitting with it. However, the change camp has mostly ruled it out too, at least publicly. Whether this is tenable is anyone's guess.

The Joint List sits outside both camps and likely will remain so.

My site is straight polling aggregation. Two questions remain as of now: does Eisenkot's very new list hold the lead it's polling, and is a change-bloc-plus-Ra'am government realistic in practice or only a dream for those who want Bibi out?

Here's a rough primer on the major parties that are being polled:

The government bloc (Netanyahu's camp)

Likud - Netanyahu's party, dominant in Israeli politics since 2009. Leader: Benjamin Netanyahu (PM). National-liberal right; the anchor of each right-wing government for the last 15+ years.

Religious Zionism (HaTzionut HaDatit) - Leader: Bezalel Smotrich (currently Finance Minister). Very right-wing religious-nationalist party; pushes West Bank settlement expansion and has backed judicial-overhaul efforts.

Otzma Yehudit ("Jewish Power") - Leader: Itamar Ben-Gvir (currently National Security Minister). Hardline Kahanist far-right; most aggressive voice thatis incredibly hawkish in the West Bank and Gaza, the figure most likely to draw considerable international headlines for controversy.

Shas - Leader: Aryeh Deri. Sephardi/Mizrahi ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) party. Focus: religious-status-quo issues (Shabbat, kashrut, rabbinic authority, no draft for Haredim) plus welfare spending for its constituents.

United Torah Judaism (UTJ) - Leader: Yitzhak Goldknopf. Ashkenazi ultra-Orthodox party. Core issue: yeshiva funding as well as military-draft exemptions for Haredi men - a rather combustible domestic issue in Israeli politics that elicits considerable passion.

These five combined are what the dashboard tracks as the "Gov." column - if their joint seats hit 61+, it will be highlighted as a majority, though they are short quite a few as Bibi is polling below his last election.

The "change" bloc (anti-Netanyahu)

Yashar ("Straight") - Leader: Gadi Eisenkot, a former IDF Chief of Staff whose son and nephew were killed in the current war. They are a new list with no prior election history, but currently trading first place with Likud in several polls. Centrist. On 6 September it absorbed the smaller Zionist Home list.

Together (Yachad, no relation to the old religious party of the same name) - Leader: Naftali Bennett, former PM (2021–22). They are soft-right, explicitly anti-Netanyahu, he led a former government with Lapid.

Yisrael Beiteinu ("Israel Our Home") - Leader: Avigdor Lieberman. Secular nationalist, historically receives votes from the Russian-speaking immigrant community. They are right-leaning on security though a hard opponent of any widespread Haredi draft exemptions, which is why it sits in the change camp rather than the government one as he refuses to sit with the Bibi camp and has fallen out of favour with Bibi.

The Democrats - Leader: Yair Golan. Social-democratic left; formed with the merger of the old Labor and Meretz parties.

There are a small number of other parties polling around the threshold that can be explored on the dashboard.

Outside of both major blocs (the Arab-Israeli lists)

Ra'am ("United Arab List") - Leader: Mansour Abbas. They are a pragmatic Islamist party. The only Arab party to ever sit in an Israeli government (the 2021–22 Bennett–Lapid coalition). Currently they create the most plausible route to 61 for the change bloc, though both sides have ruled it out at least in public, tho things may change after results are in.

Joint List - Leader: Yousef Jabareen. A reunited alliance with Hadash (Arab-Jewish, socialist), Ta'al, and Balad (Arab nationalist) the three ran separately in some past elections but combined in this one. Join List never sat in government and hasn't committed to either camp this time either.

Though perhaps unlikely, there always remains the chance of a unity government consisting of major parties from within both major blocs, or a large polling miss that gives one bloc the 61 seats they need to govern.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 4h ago

Anti-Israel propaganda trick: using the word Zionist to promote genocidal ideologies against Israelis

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One of the most effective propaganda tricks in anti-Israel rhetoric is the strategic use of the word Zionist.

Notice the linguistic sleight of hand.

Israelis become Zionists. Jews who believe Israel has a right to exist become Zionists. Everything they don't like become Zionists. Suddenly, genocidal opposition to an actual country and its people can be packaged as opposition to an abstract enemy.

Meanwhile, Palestinians are consistently described as a distinct nation with an unquestionable national identity.

Here is the interesting historical irony: modern Palestinian nationalism developed the late Ottoman and British Mandate periods, within a broader Arab world whose borders were entirely shaped by European imperial powers and famously Sykes and Picot.

But why should Palestinian nationalism be treated as an unquestionable expression of national self-determination while the ancient nationalism of the ancient Jewish people dismissed as an objectionable ideology?

There is an enormous difference between criticizing Israeli government policies and advocating the elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.

Yet the deliberate substitution of Zionist for Israeli can obscure that distinction makes the destruction of Israel turn into some sort of political question that is up for debate in polite conversation.

A demand that would otherwise sound murderous and extreme becomes much more palatable when framed as simply being "antizionist" as opposed to anti-Israel or antisemitic.

When someone is playing with the vocabulary, it shouldn't prevent us from examining what someone is actually advocating.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 3h ago

Serious Israel’s Actions Do Not Justify Hatred Toward Jews Abroad

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Whether Israel’s actions in Gaza are justified is a separate discussion. Even if every allegation against Israel, including genocide and apartheid, were true, none would justify hatred toward Jews abroad. Nobody should be held collectively responsible for a government’s actions because of their ethnicity, religion, or nationality. When anti-Zionist protesters target Jewish communities, harass Jewish students, or demand that Jews answer for Israel’s actions, they are engaging in collective blame. A movement that claims to stand for justice and human rights undermines those principles whenever it tolerates and excuses antisemitism within itself.

The anti-Zionist movement’s treatment of Jews abroad exposes a glaring double standard. Ethnic Russians whose families have lived abroad for generations are not blamed and harassed for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. North Koreans who escaped their country are not blamed for its dictatorship. Chinese and Iranian diaspora communities are not held responsible for their ancestral governments. Americans as a people are not collectively responsible for Donald Trump’s actions. The same principle must apply to Jews, yet hostility toward Israel is repeatedly used to justify harassing Jewish communities and attacking Jewish institutions. Supporting anti-Zionism or Palestinians does not give anyone a license to target Jews.

Since October 7, Jews around the world have faced a wave of violence: the Bondi Beach Hanukkah massacre, the Manchester synagogue attack on Yom Kippur, the murders outside Washington’s Capital Jewish Museum, the Boulder hostage-walk firebombing, the kidnapping and murder of Rabbi Zvi Kogan, the attacks on Israeli football fans in Amsterdam, the burning of Melbourne’s Adass Israel Synagogue, the mob hunting for Jewish passengers at Dagestan’s airport, and the attempted firebombing of a Berlin synagogue. These attacks expose the reality of treating Jews everywhere as targets for anger at Israel. Whatever anyone thinks of Israel’s policies, a movement that excuses attacks on Jews in the name of opposing Israel betrays the very principles of justice and human rights it claims to defend.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1h ago

Discussion If the Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki Were Not Genocide, Neither Is the Gaza War

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Under the 1948 Genocide Convention, genocide requires the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

The common argument I see from advocates of categorizing the Gaza war as genocide is that Israel intended to destroy Gaza’s population, satisfying the “in part” aspect of the Genocide Convention. Since Gaza’s population is almost exclusively Palestinian, they argue that the extensive destruction and high civilian casualties indicate that genocide occurred.

Population Prewar Population Deaths Percentage Killed
Gaza Strip ~2.23 million ~74,396 ~3.34%

However, these arguments could be equally applied to the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That same argument could be made that the US intended to destroy Japan’s population in part, satisfying the “in part” aspect of the Genocide Convention. Since Hiroshima’s and Nagasaki’s populations were almost exclusively Japanese, it could be argued that the extensive destruction and high civilian casualties indicate that genocide occurred.

Population Prewar Population Deaths Percentage Killed
Hiroshima ~350,000 ~140,000 ~40%
Nagasaki ~240,000 ~70,000 ~29%

Nevertheless, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are never classified or even argued to be a genocide. The United States' stated objectives were to force Japan's surrender and bring World War II to an end, rather than to destroy the Japanese people as a national or ethnic group. Although the bombings killed enormous numbers of Japanese civilians, that alone does not establish the specific intent required for genocide. This remains true even though the bombings deliberately and almost exclusively targeted populated cities, with the knowledge that enormous numbers of civilians would be killed.

The same applies to Gaza. Israel's stated objectives were to free the hostages, eliminate of Hamas’s military and governance capabilities, and remove the terrorist threat from the Gaza Strip, rather than to destroy the Gazan or Palestinian people as a national or ethnic group. Although the bombings killed enormous numbers of civilians, that alone does not establish the specific intent required for genocide. It is also important to recognize that Israel had a clear military rationale for targeting Hamas in Gaza. There was no directly comparable military adversary in Hiroshima or Nagasaki in the way Hamas operates within Gaza.

A common rebuttal from critics of Israel is that the United States succeeded in securing Japan’s surrender, while Israel has continued fighting Hamas in Gaza. However, whether a military operation achieves its stated objectives does not determine whether it constitutes genocide. The United States’ success does not establish the absence of genocidal intent, just as Israel’s failure to achieve all its objectives would not establish its presence. In both cases, the question is whether there was a specific intent to destroy a protected group, in whole or in part. Neither meets that standard.

Another common rebuttal from critics of Israel is that genocides have involved as few as 8,000 deaths, as in Srebrenica. However, that comparison alone does not even indicate that the Gaza war constitutes genocide. If anything, the casualty statistics only invite closer comparisons with Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Population Prewar Population Deaths Percentage Killed
European Jews ~9 million ~6 million ~67%
Rwandan Tutsis ~667,000 ~500,000 ~75%
Srebrenica Bosniaks ~40,000 ~8,000 ~20%
Cambodian Cham -- Khmer Rouge ~250,000 ~90,000 ~36%

The comparatively low death toll and percentage of Gaza’s population killed, combined with Hamas’s deliberate efforts to maximize civilian casualties, undermine the argument that the war in Gaza constitutes genocide. There is extensive evidence that Hamas’s tunnel network stretches across much of Gaza and that it conducts military operations from densely populated civilian areas. Hamas launched the October 7 attack that started this war and has deliberately endangered Palestinian civilians, while Israel’s officially stated objectives have been to free the hostages, dismantle Hamas’s military and governing capabilities, and eliminate the terrorist threat from the Gaza Strip. Taken together, these facts support the argument that Israel is fighting to defeat Hamas, rather than to destroy the Palestinian people in an act of genocide.

I have yet to hear a single convincing argument that Israel acted with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, Palestinians during their war in Gaza. The strongest alternative argument I have encountered concerns domicide, the destruction of homes, which does not, by itself, establish genocide. Even that accusation warrants scrutiny given Gaza’s population density and Hamas’s use of civilian areas for military operations. In my view, critics who insist on the genocide label without adequately establishing evidence of the required intent weaken their own credibility and turn a serious legal accusation into a tool for demonizing Israel. Meaningful scrutiny of Israel should focus on specific actions and substantiated allegations, with conclusions grounded in evidence rather than the most inflammatory terminology available.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 6h ago

News/Politics For Pro Palestinian people

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Israel is right about this war. Here's the whole case.

Almost every argument against Israel in this war works by leaving something out. I'm going to put the missing pieces back, with sources. But first, what I'm not denying.

What I'm not denying

This war has been a catastrophe for Gaza's civilians. The UN commission counts more than 20,000 children killed [10], and people in Gaza have gone hungry. Whatever you believe about who's responsible, that is horrifying, and anyone who shrugs at it has lost something human. Israel hasn't been perfect either. Settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank has risen and it's wrong [18], soldiers who commit abuses should be prosecuted, and this government's settlement push is fair to criticize. Defending Israel's war against Hamas doesn't mean defending every decision or every person. It means looking at the full picture of who started this, how it's being fought, and who could have ended it.

Part 1: Who said no to peace

In 1947 the UN voted to split the British Mandate into a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jewish leadership accepted. The Arab side refused, and when Israel declared independence in May 1948, the armies of Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon invaded [1]. The pattern didn't end there. In 2008 Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered Mahmoud Abbas a Palestinian state. Years later Abbas said on Israeli TV: "I rejected it out of hand" [2]. Palestinians have been offered a state alongside Israel more than once. Their leaders said no, and the war went on.

Part 2: Israel already tried leaving Gaza

In 2005 Israel pulled every soldier and every settler out of Gaza and dismantled all 21 settlements there [3]. Gaza had its chance to become whatever its people wanted. In 2006 Hamas won the Palestinian legislative election. In 2007 it seized Gaza by force from its Palestinian rivals, and Human Rights Watch documented its forces shooting captured Fatah members in the legs [4]. Palestinians haven't voted in a legislative election since 2006, and this month the next one was postponed again, to September 2027 [5]. What came out of Gaza after Israel left wasn't a state. It was years of rocket fire, and then October 7.

Part 3: What Hamas is, and what it wants

On October 7, 2023, Hamas led an attack that killed about 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and dragged 251 hostages into Gaza [6]. That wasn't a break from its ideology; it was the ideology in action. Hamas's 1988 founding charter opens with the line "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it" [7]. Weeks after the massacre, Hamas political bureau member Ghazi Hamad told Lebanese TV, "we will do it twice and three times," calling October 7 "just the first time" [8]. Among the hostages were Ariel Bibas, four years old, and his brother Kfir, ten months old. Israel's military said forensic findings showed they were murdered in captivity "with their bare hands"; Hamas claimed an airstrike [9]. Even the UN commission most critical of Israel concluded that Hamas and other armed groups committed war crimes and crimes against humanity [10].

Part 4: How Hamas fights, and why children die

This is the part people don't think about. Hamas built a vast tunnel network under Gaza, and when asked why civilians couldn't shelter in it, senior Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk said the tunnels were to protect Hamas from airstrikes, and that protecting civilians "is the responsibility of the UN" [20]. Hamas kept its fighters, weapons and command posts where the civilians were. The Pentagon said Hamas ran a "command and control node" from al-Shifa, Gaza's largest hospital, with weapons stored there [11]. When the IDF rescued four hostages in Nuseirat in June 2024, they were being held in apartments in the middle of a crowded refugee camp [12]. The UN itself fired nine UNRWA employees after its investigators found they "may have been involved" in October 7 [13]. And in messages reported by the Wall Street Journal, Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar called the deaths of Gaza's civilians "necessary sacrifices" [14].

Put that together and the picture is clear. Hamas gave itself the shelter and left the children above ground. It put its war machine in homes, schools and hospitals, then counted on the dead to turn the world against Israel. Every child killed in Gaza is a tragedy, and a huge share of the blame for those deaths falls on the group that deliberately fought from among them.

Part 5: "Genocide" and "targeting children"

The genocide charge leans on the International Court of Justice, but the court never ruled that genocide was happening, or even that South Africa's claim of genocide was plausible. Its president at the time, Joan Donoghue, publicly corrected that misreading on the BBC [15]. The latest UN commission report says Israel deliberately targeted children, but read it closely. It reaches its findings on "reasonable grounds", far below the proof any court requires. Israel answered none of its 13 requests, so it never saw what a single strike was aimed at. And it admits it hasn't investigated how Palestinian armed groups use children [10]. Its casualty figures come largely from Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry, which doesn't distinguish between civilians and combatants [16]. None of that makes 20,000 dead children less of a tragedy. But a war fought inside dense cities, against an enemy that hides among children, produces terrible numbers without anyone setting out to kill children. Calling it genocide means ignoring everything above.

Part 6: The hunger

The hunger in Gaza is real, but look at who could have stopped it. For two years Hamas could have ended the war at any moment by freeing the hostages and laying down its arms. It chose not to. When aid did come in, Israel's aid coordination body said the contents of 600 trucks were sitting on the Gaza side of the Kerem Shalom crossing, waiting for the UN to collect them [21]. And Hamas's top political leaders weren't the ones going hungry: they ran the war from Doha, Qatar, where Israel struck them in September 2025 [22]. A group that builds shelter only for itself, leaves civilians to the UN and runs its war from a Gulf capital doesn't get to blame everyone else for the suffering it set in motion.

Part 7: "Apartheid"

Around a fifth of Israel's citizens are Arab. They vote, they sit in the Knesset, and in 2021 an Arab party, Ra'am, joined Israel's governing coalition for the first time [17]. Name another apartheid state where the supposedly oppressed group helps form the government.

Part 8: Settlements

Settlements are the strongest card critics hold, and I won't pretend they're nothing. But they still don't prove what's claimed. Israel disputes that settlements are illegal. Its position is that the West Bank is disputed territory where Jews have lived for thousands of years, not land seized from a recognized sovereign state [18]. You can oppose the current government's settlement push, and plenty of Israelis do. It comes from a coalition that polls say is likely to lose the October 27 election [18]. That's what accountability looks like: Israelis can vote their government out. Palestinians under Hamas can't.

Part 9: The referee isn't neutral

The UN Human Rights Council has ten permanent agenda items. Nine are general. One, Item 7, is dedicated to Israel, and no other country has a standing item of its own. In 2007 UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon himself criticized the decision to single Israel out this way [19]. A body built like that has earned scrutiny, not blind trust.

Bottom line

Israel accepted partition; its neighbors invaded. Israel left Gaza; Hamas turned it into a launchpad. Hamas murdered 1,200 people, promised to do it again, hid under hospitals and homes, kept the tunnels for itself, and let Gaza's civilians pay the price while its leaders watched from Qatar. Israel is a democracy with Arab lawmakers, independent courts and elections that can throw out its own government. It makes mistakes, and it should answer for them. Hamas answers to no one. Standing with Israel in this war isn't ignoring Palestinian suffering. It's naming who caused it.

Sources

  1. The Arab-Israeli War of 1948, US State Department, Office of the Historian: https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/arab-israeli-war

  2. Abbas admits he said no to Israel's peace offer, Council on Foreign Relations: https://www.cfr.org/blog/abbas-admits-he-said-no-israels-peace-offer

  3. Israel's Disengagement from Gaza, Congressional Research Service: https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RS22000.html

  4. Internal Fight: Palestinian Abuses in Gaza and the West Bank, Human Rights Watch: https://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2008/07/29/internal-fight-0

  5. Abbas postpones Palestinian legislative elections another year, Korea Times: https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/world/20261011/mahmoud-abbas-postpones-palestinian-legislative-elections-another-year

  6. A look at the hostages taken to Gaza, by the numbers, AP via PBS NewsHour: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/a-look-at-the-hostages-left-in-gaza-by-the-numbers

  7. Hamas Covenant 1988, Yale Law School Avalon Project: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/Hamas.asp

  8. Hamas official says group aims to repeat Oct. 7 onslaught many times, Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-official-says-group-aims-to-repeat-oct-7-onslaught-many-times-to-destroy-israel/

  9. IDF: Captors murdered Ariel and Kfir Bibas with their bare hands, Times of Israel: https://timesofisrael.com/idf-says-captors-murdered-children-ariel-and-kfir-bibas-with-their-bare-hands/

  10. UN Commission of Inquiry report A/HRC/62/CRP.2, United Nations: https://www.un.org/unispal/document/coi-report-23jun26/

  11. US says Hamas used al-Shifa hospital, The National: https://thenationalnews.com/world/us-news/2023/11/15/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-hamas-us

  12. 4 hostages released from Hamas captivity in daring IDF raid, Israel Hayom: https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/08/4-hostages-released-from-hamas-captivity-in-daring-idf-raid

  13. UN says nine employees "may have been involved" in October 7 attack, Al Jazeera: https://aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/5/un-says-nine-employees-may-have-been-involved-in-october-7-hamas-attack

  14. Sinwar depicts Palestinian casualties as "necessary sacrifices", FDD on the Wall Street Journal's report: https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/06/11/hamas-leader-yahya-sinwar-depicts-palestinian-casualties-as-necessary-sacrifices/

  15. Top judge corrects media on the ICJ ruling, Joshua Rozenberg: https://rozenberg.substack.com/p/top-judge-corrects-media

  16. How reliable are Gaza Health Ministry's death numbers?, VOA: https://learningenglish.voanews.com/amp/how-reliable-are-gaza-health-ministry-s-death-numbers/7343831.html

  17. Ra'am joins the government coalition, INSS: https://www.inss.org.il/publication/raam-party/

  18. Israel allocates $434 million for 34 new West Bank settlements, Reuters: https://www.internazionale.it/ultime-notizie-reuters/2026/07/14/israel-allocates-434-million-for-34-new-west-bank-settlements

  19. Why the UNHRC's Agenda Item 7 was denounced by Ban Ki-moon, UN Watch: https://unwatch.org/why-the-unhrcs-agenda-item-7-was-denounced-by-un-secretary-general-ban-ki-moon/

  20. Senior Hamas official: "Tunnels are for us, the UN can take care of Palestinian citizens", Ynet: https://ynetnews.com/article/bk00giq0fa

  21. COGAT: 600 aid trucks waiting for UN in Gaza, Ynet: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hjis3irg0

  22. Israel attacks Hamas leaders in Doha, CBS News: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-attack-doha-qatar-hamas-leadership


r/IsraelPalestine • • 13h ago

Learning about the conflict: Questions An Indian's opinion on Israel vs Palestine

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Indians have a history of fighting radical Islamism, and unfortunately it is exactly the same strategy that Pakistan has countlessly used on us, that Hamas is using against Israel.

Step 1 - Terror groups launch the first attack (Oct 7 and Kashmir Shooting)
Step 2 - Pakistan claims to be victim of terrorism and denies all claim of terror attack
Step 3 - India/Israel poises to retaliate as a response to Pakistani/Hamas shootings
Step 4 - Terrorists blend in with civilians and push the narrative "Look at the other side, they are killing innocents" while actively still attacking India/Israel
Step 5 - Manipulate media to push the message that civilians are being attacked and that they are the victims

It's almost a formula they keep using because it works. 2 days after the Kashmir shooting, people/mostly muslims were siding with Pakistanis because 1) they were also muslims and 2) the evil other is bombing children and women

I cannot see why Free Palestine is such a huge movement, it just means radical islam has been successful at manipulating opinions. It's scary because they have Mecca/Madina, they are now working to take Jerusalem (the most sacred land for Christ), and they have tried many times to take over sacred lands in India as well.

This is a spiritual war and people have their eyes closed. Celebrities are brainwashed and I feel like im the only gen alpha with a brain here. People keep using big words like genocide when Israel has been announcing the locations of the bombings, gave time for people to evacuate, provided assistance as food. And who even elected Hamas? Palestinians. Did they know Hamas had a history of oppression? Yes.

So i am at a lost here. I keep reading about the war and I have no idea who support for Palestine has grown so much but not just that, just sheer hatred towards Isreal is crazy to me. They don't even mention Hamas anymore, it's just hatred towards Israel. And even more, i strongly hate how people condone others for not aligning themselves with Free Palestine. Like bro, give me time to educate myself. I need to read and gather information before I put forward my opinion.

Tell me where i am wrong but from what I can see, this is clearly radical Islam play and people are feeding into the victimization trap and they're all benefiting enormously from it. Especially the left in the US which would be killed and butchered by the very people they're supporting.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1d ago

Opinion POV: As an exmuslim Palestinian girl living in the West Bank

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used to think everything was so black and white. Someone would say "it’s complicated" and I’d roll my eyes so hard like, duuuuuh? It’s literal colonisation, what's so complicated?
But the messy part is, once you start pulling at one loose thread of what you were raised to believe, the whole damn sweater unravels.
Growing up Muslim, “Arab”, and Palestinian, you’re fed this heavy, suffocating sense of absolute righteousness. We’re right. We have a higher purpose. We are "خير أمة اخرجت للناس" " ..اكناف بيت المقدس .." و. And then, painfully slowly, you start noticing how terrifyingly similar that exact mental framework is to the people on the other side.
Don't get me wrong the power dynamics are completely different, the oppression is real, and I am not saying "both sides" are the same BUT that psychological core? That stubborn, unquestionable conviction of "we are the chosen, we are right, this land is exclusively ours because God/history said so"? It’s the same mirror image. Just wearing a different flag🤷🏻‍♀️
it’s humbling and depressing how much I had to lose, and how much of my worldview I had to tear apart, just to finally see the actual human being hiding behind a uniform or a gun :))) still angry. I walk outside and see the injustice in my face every single day. Im not sitting here trying to release a 🕊️. But I can't pretend anymore that someone's basic humanity depends on which side of a concrete wall or a checkpoint they happened to crawl out of.
I live here. stuck here and most days I can't even say what I actually think out loud without looking over my shoulder. I don’t belong to either tribe in the way people desperately demand you to, and I sure as hell don't have a neat little conclusion to any of this.
I just know I haven't given up on coexistence I’m just tired, still furious, still confused, and trying to survive inside my own head and I wanna see the fuckin beach!!!!!!!


r/IsraelPalestine • • 3h ago

Short Question/s Middle Eastern perspectives on anti-Israel activism?

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I’d like to hear from non-Jewish Middle Easterners, including those in the diaspora.

  • How do you view anti-Israel activism in Western countries?
  • Do you feel these movements reflect your views and priorities?
  • Do you feel represented by their messaging, slogans, and tactics?
  • What do you support and what do you not support?
  • If you’ve disagreed with activists or challenged their views, how have they responded?

I am a curious person and have posted similar posts recently but this one really gets at the heart of what I am wanting to know. Because I feel like many MENA people are dismissed and gaslit by these supposed Pro-Palestinian/Anti-Israel groups.

So I'd genuinely like to hear your thoughts to help me grow and learn and understand. Thank you in advance, I am a Jewish Zionist and understand we may not agree on all points but I still want to learn and understand and I wish you peace.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 12h ago

Discussion Psychology of the pro-Palestine movement

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I'm not sure this is the best place for this post but here goes.

If you are in (or have been in) the pro-Palestine movement, I'd like to hear your experiences. I'm not necessarily looking for what you did in the movement, but rather how you felt, general vibes, communications, etc.

The reason for this is that over just 3 years, the pro-Palestine movement has reached new heights very very quickly, and has also been adept at using a new tool (social media) to do so. I appreciate that the things coming out of Palestine are very distressing and will spur many people to action. I also think there is something different the movement is doing compared to other movements, as the degree of its popularity is something I haven't really seen before.

So: experiences. Good, bad, neutral. And I'm talking about all experiences here, from organised protests all the way down to, idk, a mini pro-Palestine group chat. When I say 'movement' I generally mean any community, big or tiny, that is activism for Palestine in some way, whether it be offline or online.

What are your hopes for the movement? What are your concerns? What do you think the movement is doing right? What would you change about it?

I need to get 1500 characters here so I guess I'll chuck in a specific one I'm interested in. As we all know a lot of horrific videos/photos have been circulating from Gaza over the past few years. I have seen some people suggest that if one does not watch these videos, it means they do not care. Is this true in your experience(s)? Do you feel pressured to watch gory videos? I don't think this is true for all pro-Palestinians, but it's something I've seen a few times and am wondering how widespread it is.

Thanks in advance


r/IsraelPalestine • • 22h ago

Discussion 2SS aftermath?

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The thing I wonder about, and never hear an answer for is this: let’s say hypothetically Israel pulls out of the/some of the settlements, land swaps and whatever and a Palestinian state is established. Woohoo! Then this newly formed Palestinian state launches terror attacks and/or starts a war with Israel. What then? Will the world support Israel retaliating against the newly formed Palestinian state or will they demand Israel do nothing as they did after 10/7? I don’t see how it would work and if we’re being honest I think we all know they will immediately use any newly formed state as a launchpad to continue their war on Israel/Jews.

This was where I initially left off my post but it got removed for being too few characters so I’ll expound/ramble a bit to make it longer. I’d love to hear what safeguards pro Palestinians think would suffice to ensure that war is not immediately declared following the Palestinian declaration of statehood. I find it incredibly hard to believe that if they’re allowed to have an army that they won’t immediately start a war but I’ve also heard Palestinian activists insist that they be allowed to have a military and airport and whatnot. Seems like an awful catch-22 to me but I’d love to hear other people thoughts on this. I also think it’s interesting that a prerequisite of Palestinian statehood in many advocates eyes is the ethnic cleansing of all Jews from Judea and Sumeria. Would most people who want a 2SS be okay with the Jews staying if they’re under Palestinian governance? What happens if/when they start massacring those Jews who stayed? Hope everyone reading this is well!


r/IsraelPalestine • • 5h ago

Short Question/s Did Benjamin Netanyahu really allow October 7 to happen?

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I don’t know much about the subject nor have much time to research it myself and sift through what’s biased and what’s not.

I want to know this subs take on this is, and also the most agreed upon one by experts.

From what I understand, skeleton crews were left at the Gaza border during festivities despite many prior warnings allowing the attack to be as devastating as it was and the timing was beneficial for Netanyahu in some way. That’s all I know, so please educate me.

If possible, please cite sources also


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1d ago

Discussion Who do you actually feel connected to in this conflict?

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If you’re neither Jewish or Palestinian and have no personal or family connection to the land, who do you actually feel connected to in this conflict and how/why? Do you feel aligned with Palestinians, including when their views differ from yours? And if yes, do you actually listen to them?

I ask because, as a Jewish Zionist (someone who believes in Jewish sovereignty, of course) I often feel closer and more in alignment with Palestinians I’ve spoken with in real life and on this sub than to the vast majority of the far-left progressives who claim to speak for them. I do not think I’m alone.

When I speak to Palestinians, we don’t agree on everything. Sometimes we disagree profoundly. But we are able to have honest, civil, empathetic conversations about difficult issues without dismissing each other’s identity or attachment to the land. We can still wish peace for each other. I can acknowledge their experiences without denying mine, and they seem to be able to do the same.

What I struggle with is the utter contempt from people with no real skin in the game, speaking from their privileged lives, dismissing Jewish fears, lecturing us about what our identity means and how they define us, and making accusations that leave no room for an actual conversation. That hasn’t been my experience with the Palestinians I’ve connected with. I wonder whether some Palestinians feel similarly about outsiders who claim to speak for them.

Edit for clarification: Why is it I experience significantly more pleasant interactions with actual Palestinians than I do with people who claim to support Palestinians? I have a need to understand this.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1d ago

Discussion Jerry Seinfeld Will Not Be Financially Canceled Over "it's a genocide, I'm into it" Response

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Do you remember the weird Michael Richards apology on Letterman in 2006? Richards was on the satellite looking absolutely destroyed, the audience starts laughing because the whole thing has this bizarre uncomfortable quality to it, and Jerry tells them, “Stop laughing. It’s not funny.”

Twenty years later Jerry is now the Seinfeld cast member with the radioactive heckler clip. Protesters accuse him of racism and supporting genocide, he sarcastically responds with “I’m racist, it’s a genocide, I’m into it,” and immediately you get the obvious comparison: Kramer got “canceled” for his heckler response. Is Jerry next?

Nope! Almost certainly not. And one factor is , was Michael Richards actually “canceled” in the way we normally use that word now?

Obviously his reputation was annihilated. Almost 20 years later if you mention “Michael Richards stand-up,” nobody thinks of some really clever bit he did about supermarkets in 1997. They think of THAT! He got angry at Black hecklers, repeatedly used the N-word and invoked lynching.

But the effect that had on his career is complicated. Seinfeld had already been off the air for eight years. The Michael Richards Show had already bombed. Richards wasn't exactly Tom Cruise on Thursday and then unemployed on Monday because the Cancel Culture Department faxed Hollywood his termination notice. And Richards himself basically withdrew from show business afterward.

So now I think we are lumping two different things together.

There is "career cancellation", where somebody loses jobs, venues, employers, an audience, etc. And then there is "reputational cancellation", where one horrible thing becomes permanently attached to your name.

Richards unquestionably got the second but his central "cancelation" factor was that he probably didn't have that much of the first actually left to lose in 2006.

Which relates to the Jerry question quite a bit. If Jerry Seinfeld is going to be “canceled” in a meaningful career sense in 2026, what exactly has to happen? He is 72. Seinfeld ended in 1998. NBC isn't deciding whether to renew it for Season 10. Jerry isn't a 35-year-old actor who needs Netflix, Disney and Warner Brothers to decide he's still employable for the next three decades.

His current business is basically being Jerry Seinfeld. People buy tickets because the person on the ticket is Jerry Seinfeld. So the important denominator probably isn't “people on the Internet who are furious at Jerry Seinfeld.” There can be millions of those people and it might matter culturally while literally mattering ZERO economically. And yea, I think the factor there is literally zero because the important denominator is people who would otherwise buy a Jerry Seinfeld ticket.

And there is a selection effect there. Anybody buying a Jerry Seinfeld ticket in late 2026 (which costs a fortune btw, I was tempted to buy one but it was wayyyyyyyy too pricey for me) who actually cares about Jerry's position on Israel probably knows he is pro-Israel. This isn't some shocking political opinion discovered three minutes ago because TMZ found a microphone left on. He has been extremely public about this for quite a while. Which means the people still buying tickets are increasingly selected from three groups: people who agree with him, people who don't care, and people who dislike his politics but don't care enough to stop seeing him. That's a pretty good firewall against getting canceled by your customers.

So SOME people see that clip and see a guy making light of genocide and dead children. OTHER people see political activists repeatedly interrupting a comedian, shouting accusations at him, and the comedian sarcastically going, “Yep, that's me, Mr. Genocide,” while the audience cheers him and security removes the protesters. Those two groups are not about to reach a Michael-Richards-in-2006 level consensus.

And the 1989 TV show is just too valuable to be canceled. Netflix just renewed the show through 2031 after similar Jerry controversies were already public, and the last deal was worth more than $500 million. At that scale, this is no longer just “Jerry Seinfeld, comedian.” It is a gigantic global library asset owned by Sony, watched by millions, generating BILLIONS of viewing hours, and worth hundreds of millions of dollars. You can absolutely damage Jerry's reputation. You can make younger viewers think differently about him. But getting Netflix, Sony, advertisers, mass viewers, and the entire syndication ecosystem to collectively decide that one of the most valuable sitcoms ever made is now radioactive? That is NOT gonna happen.

SO will Jerry lose the practical ability to continue being Jerry Seinfeld for money? That's as close to guaranteed "no" as you can get.

BUT. Does zero economic consequence protect his reputation?

Oh hell no.

Because: THE YOUTHS! Seinfeld is not just a show being kept alive by 55-year-olds falling asleep to “The Marine Biologist” for the 400th time. When it moved to Netflix, Nielsen found that 41% of its streaming audience was 34 or younger. Forty-one percent! People who were children, babies, or in many cases not born yet when the finale aired. And this wasn't some brief nostalgia spike either. Seinfeld was still one of the most-streamed shows in America in 2026, including #2 in July and still in the top five in August. So there is a gigantic supply of people discovering Jerry Seinfeld backwards: they know the 1990s television character because Netflix handed him to them in the 2020s, and THEN they discover the actual 72-year-old Jerry and his politics. Those people are not economically necessary to Jerry Seinfeld the touring comedian right now.

But they are enormously important to what Jerry Seinfeld means 10 or 20 years from now. Michael Richards didn't really get economically canceled so much as have one three-minute video permanently rewrite his biography. Jerry is almost certainly insulated from the first thing. But with millions of younger viewers (and the YOUTHS are much more statically likely to be anti-Israeli) still discovering Seinfeld? I would not remotely assume he is insulated from the second.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 4h ago

Discussion Part of the reason Israel’s PR has gone down is because Zionists fundamentally misunderstand the goal of the pro Palestinian movement.

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A lot of Zionists basically believe a very strawmanned version of what the pro Palestinian movement is.

They essentially see it as a pro Hamas or Hamas funding movement that just totally ignores that Israel is a powerful nuclear state that will extract as much vengeance as they wish.

In reality, the pro Palestinian movement is essentially an acknowledgment of unfortunate realities and a movement to encourage the rest of the world, not Israel, but the rest of the world to do the right thing in the face of said realities.

Zionists really like to harp on “who won the wars,” which matters in terms of setting the reality but means nothing in terms of how we should react to reality.

Many wars in history are morally neutral. But many have a clear good and bad side.

And when we go back to 1948, we have a clear morally evil side with the Zionists and a clear morally good side (with some exceptions of somewhat concerning statements from Palestinian and other Arab officials) with the Palestinians.

And the morally evil side won and has defended their victory for 78 years. And they have had and continue to have no intention to stop being the bad guy and start working towards a one state solution.

And that is a thing that happens sometimes too. The world is an unjust place, and the fact that even the idea or concept of Israel was even thought of, let alone implemented, is proof of that.

But just because the bad guy wins doesn’t mean you just deal with the bad guy like they’re anyone else. Sure, them winning is definitely an argument against military action against them.

But that doesn’t mean you just ignore them. You still have an obligation to boycott, verbally condemn, and if possible, fully sanction them. Just because evil people won a war 78 years ago and have not attempted to give the land back to the people who deserve the entirety of it today, does not in any way force you to support, interact, or do business with them.

And also, one should ask Zionists this. Among the Zionists who believe Israel’s inception itself was evil, when did its continued existence become a good thing over a bad thing? If one has no answer to this, agreeing with me is the logical conclusion.

But back to the point, our movement is not only not pro Hamas, but it’s not pro-any military action against Israel whatsoever. You don’t see pro Palestinians asking the government to wage war on Israel and give Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, and Netanya back to its rightful owners. And there’s good reason for that.

Because, unlike what Zionists will tell you, we fully acknowledge the realities of Israel’s military might. We just think the rest of the world should react appropriately to it. Just because Zionists won a war 78 years ago doesn’t force you to buy their products today. Nor does it stop you from simply making the world aware of how their conduct is a stain on humanity.

And when I think about it, you don’t even have to disagree with Zionists to be pro Palestinian. Most Zionist arguments focus on military might. So what I say is go ahead and listen to those arguments, maybe even agree with them, and then go to the pro Palestinian side to learn the morality as well as the appropriate response of the West.

Sure, there are many Zionists like Trump who believe Israel is justified, and there are a good number of Zionists like Benny Morris who believe Israel has been justified *since inception*. But even then, the value of their arguments is not that they’re worth anything, but more so that they provide an example of how nasty Zionist thinking is. *Most* Zionist arguments still focus on power and futility more than anything.

And what I’ve always said is that the best proof of this is that you can ask Zionists “why do you care if I accuse Israel of apartheid or genocide?” Literally, that’s all you have to do.

If Israel and Zionists truly believed it was not a genocide, they would just ignore us. Israel is already very powerful militarily. There’s no reason they should care about whether you or I think it’s a genocide or whether the WB and settlements are a form of apartheid. But, they very much do care, like a lot, so we have to ask why.

And while I can’t mind read Zionists, the likeliest reason is that they know we’re right, so they lash out at us in a form of moral insecurity. Because remember, ignoring us = them genuinely not believing it’s genocide and apartheid (even if they’d be very wrong about that). And they are doing just about the opposite, so you can do the math.

So, next time you’re facing Zionist opinion policing, ask them why they’re opinion policing you in the first place, and it’ll say a lot about them and a lot about what Zionism truly is.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1d ago

Opinion Zionism for me

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It's a difficult question—for me, TODAY, it's a worldview. I can't call myself a political Zionist (although I served in the army as a mechanic. Who knows, maybe combat units think differently) because I can't say I'm a nationalist. Seriously, in Israel there are Jews of all communities, Muslims of various communities, Alawites, Druze, and Christians. For me, it's simply the right of the Jewish people to live on their ancestral land. Although, as a mixed-race person, I don't entirely approve of the actions in the West Bank because it's already a safari and will lead nowhere. I am against Palestinian terrorist attacks, as well as our radical nationalists. I want Jerusalem to be entirely Israeli, but I don't see the point in taking Ramallah from the Palestinians, just like Bethlehem or Nablus/Shechem. Culturally and by worldview, I'm a Zionist. Regarding politics, I don't think there are any Zionists or Palestinian nationalists left in politics. These are more like two pretty words for voters, but in reality, they're just ordinary politicians. That's all.

I'm not pro-Palestinian, and I consider them populists. I'm not a Kahanist, and I consider them as crazy. I'm not a Kaplanist, and I consider them utopian. The only way out is to quickly reconsider the "1967 borders" and engage directly with Ramallah, separating them from Hamas and setting harsh but realistic conditions: we give you the territory, you completely renounce war with Israel and do not aid Iran. If necessary, we'll include them in the Abrahamic Accords and bring in other countries that need influence in the Middle East to oversee this process.

IMPORTANT: without the EU. The US, China, India, and a neutral party like Japan or South Korea. We centralize the constitution, Jerusalem is the administrative and legislative capital, Tel Aviv is the diplomatic one.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 3h ago

Discussion Us anti Zionists don’t call ourselves as such to “hide antisemitism.” We do so because we hate Israel but don’t hate Jews.

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This is very simple. As anti Zionists we hate Israel. An antisemite is someone who hates Jews.

To be clear, if someone thinks that Israel should exist, that is absolutely their right to think that. They are wrong, but its definitely their right to think that.

But ultimately, our beef is with a nuclear nation state, not with any ethnic group. Our hatred of Israel is not equivalent to hatred of Jews, or any other ethnic group. We see this flawed logic from Zionists all the time. “You hate Israel so therefore you must hate Jews since Israel was made for Jews.”

But this logic doesn’t fly. In the US, affirmative action was a thing for decades. There are many arguments for and against, but the argument that anti affirmative action = anti black is not considered a serious argument. The lesson from that is that arguments that say you’re against x ethnic group because you’re against y political concept are generally invalid.

Sure, you can be pro Israel and have all your reasons. That doesn’t mean the other side‘s reason has to be hate Jews.

The best way I can place it is this. A person can be Zionist for their own reasons and that’s fine. If a person is anti Zionist, it doesn’t mean that he hates Jews, but rather disagrees that the Zionists’ reasons are justified or that Israel is a good solution to said reasons.

It’s a very simple concept intentionally obfuscated by Zionist lies.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1d ago

Short Question/s How are Israeli settlements in the West Bank secured? Are they all fenced off?

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I've been reading about Israeli settlements in the West Bank, and I'm curious about how security and access work in practice.

I'm particularly interested in settlements located close to Palestinian villages and towns, such as Eli, Kedumim, and Ofra.

Are all settlements physically surrounded by walls or fences, or are some open and accessible from the surrounding areas? For example, I noticed that some settlements don't seem to have a continuous perimeter fence on satellite images, although there appears to be armed security at the entrances.

How does this work in practice? Are the entrances usually guarded, and can Palestinians from nearby villages freely enter these settlements to shop or use services, or is access generally restricted? If there is no continuous fence, how is access controlled, if at all?

I'd appreciate answers from people familiar with the area or who have lived there. I'm just trying to understand how the system actually works on the ground.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1d ago

Discussion Russian Interference in Western Politics - What's Been Happening and What Has Happened in the Past?

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After posting here, I realized that many did not believe this was happening and were unaware of Russia's previous forays into disinformation and interfering in western politics.

FIRST, is this happening?

1) YES cloudflare is reporting a measurable decrease in bot traffic.

2) Traffic for "Free Palestine" is down 70% over the last week.

3) After the bombing, Russian supported right wing commentators saw a measurable decline in viewership, including Tucker Carlson and the "TCN" network.

4) Elon most lost millions of engagements over the last week.

Second, Why Russia do Propaganda?

To mess up the west. They've done this before.

1) Most relevant to this sub was was Operation SIG, which gave up most of the vocabulary of this conflict. This was the first time Israel was "rebranded" as white, colonial, racist oppressor. They aggressively pushed the narrative that the Palestinian struggle was identical to the Black civil rights struggle in America, and that the U.S. and Israel were twin imperialist enemies.

2) There was also disinformation in the 1980s around AIDS

3) And targeting black voters in the 2016 election, helping to get Trump elected.

4) A lot of the time Russian propaganda simply emphasized existing racial divides in America, like they did in the 1930s.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1d ago

Nazi Discussion (Rule 6 Waived) Nazi Rhetoric

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"A survey conducted by YouGov and commissioned by the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) found that 45% of the British public agrees with the statement that Israel treats Palestinians the way Nazis treated Jews."

And of course we know that "The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi."

"Punch a Nazi."

Or let's go further. Does anyone think that Nazi Germany should have been negotiated with? That there could have been a change of heart? That they just needed an election to change course? No. Of course not. It's pretty much agreed upon that bombing Dresden was a necessity. Does anyone feel bad when they see a Nazi soldier die? No, of course not. Because the Nazis are agreed upon to be Evil with a capital E. The only solution to Nazi Germany was to destroy it. It's military had to be destroyed. All of its institutions broken apart. It had to be built from the ground up.

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Now let's apply this to Israel. If nearly half of adults in the UK see Israel as doing the same thing to Palestinians as Nazis did to Jews, then logically speaking, what does that mean they accept as being the correct course of action when dealing with Israel? Is it to negotiate peace? To make agreed upon borders? No. It is to treat Israel the way one treats a Nazi. That is, Israel must be destroyed, with nothing left from it besides people who are to be placed under military occupation until a new country can be formed.

There is no nuance in this. There is no negotiation. There is no "Israel has 1000+ terror attacks a year coming from the West Bank. Tens of thousands of rockets from Gaza (with the blockade!). Hezbollah to the north who caused 95,000 Israelis to be displaced. An Iranian regime that is pumping money and arms into destroying Israel. And a history of wars of survival against hostile neighbors where one loss could mean their destruction.

And what happens then when people say "a terror attack hit Israel civilians." The answer becomes "this is a Nazi society. There is no sympathy for them. Everyone is in the IDF, so they are all guilty. Either they are in the Nazi military or were in the Nazi military. Either way, killing them is moral."

And if asked "what happens if Israel vanishes and the people who have spent a century trying to destroy it become the majority?" The answer is "whatever they want to do with Nazis. It is the Nazis who were at fault."

And I think this is dangerous. Repeating ad nauseum that "Israel is an illigitimate settler colonial apartheid state that is genocidal and treats indigenous people like the Nazis treated Jews" doesn't help any solution. All it does is promote violence, and flatten a conflict into "good vs evil" where the only solution is to destroy the evil.

Moreso, what does it mean for Israelis? It feeds the Right Wing. The security hawks. Because they can point to polls like this and say "Look at what the world thinks of you. Hear what they want to do to Nazis. And that is how they see you and your family. Vote for me, because if I am in charge? Then we can protect ourselves. We can't trust the world because they want to see you dead."

It fuels the fire for "resistance" because why should Palestinians negotiate for a State when more and more of the world says that Israel = Nazis, and therefore are behind their struggle? And why should Israel make concessions when the world tells them that if shit hits the fan, this is how they are seen?

I believe it is as counter productive as it is insulting. Anyone agree? Disagree?


r/IsraelPalestine • • 2d ago

Discussion The “Jews were 33% of the population and got 56% of the land” argument is backwards

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I keep seeing this argument:
“Jews were only 33% of the population of Palestine, but the UN gave them 56% of the land.”
It sounds outrageous until you actually look at what the partition plan proposed.

The problem is that the argument compares the Jewish share of the population of the entire Mandate with the territorial size of the proposed Jewish state, while completely ignoring who was actually supposed to live inside each state.

According to the UN Special Committee on Palestine, the total population of Mandatory Palestine at the end of 1946 was approximately:

1,203,000 Arabs
608,000 Jews
35,000 others

So yes, Jews were roughly one third of the total population.

But now look at the actual partition.
The proposed Jewish state:

498,000 Jews
407,000 Arabs and others
905,000 settled inhabitants total

And UNSCOP added that there would also be about 90,000 Bedouins in the Jewish state.

The proposed Arab state:

725,000 Arabs
10,000 Jews
735,000 total

Jerusalem, which was supposed to be international:

105,000 Arabs
100,000 Jews
205,000 total.

So look at what was actually happening.

The Jewish state was expected to take in roughly:
82% of all the Jews in Palestine
498,000 out of 608,000.

The Arab state was expected to contain only about:

60% of all the Arabs in Palestine
725,000 out of roughly 1.2 million.
The rest of the Arabs were not being “excluded” from the Jewish state. Quite the opposite.

Around 407,000 Arabs, plus approximately 90,000 Bedouins, were supposed to live inside the Jewish state.
That means close to half the population of the Jewish state would have been Arab, depending on how the Bedouins are counted.

Meanwhile, the Arab state would have been almost completely Arab, with only about 10,000 Jews, roughly 1% of its population.
So the real comparison is not:
33% of the people got 56% of the land.

It is closer to:

A Jewish-majority state containing almost the entire Jewish population and around half a million Arabs got roughly 56% of the territory.

An overwhelmingly Arab state containing around 725,000 Arabs and almost no Jews got roughly 43%.
And then Jerusalem, containing around another 205,000 people, was not assigned to either side at all.
That is a completely different picture.

And there is another huge fact that the “56%” slogan conveniently leaves out.

A massive chunk of the territory assigned to the Jewish state was the Negev.

The proposed Jewish state included the entire Beersheba subdistrict, including the Negev. UNSCOP itself explicitly notes that this area was included in the Jewish state.
The Negev was enormous, sparsely populated and mostly desert.

So when someone shows you a map and says:
“Look how much land the Jews got”
a huge part of that visual advantage comes from a gigantic desert in the south.

The Jewish state was not getting 56% of Palestine’s fertile land, cities, villages and population centers.
A huge amount of its territorial area was desert.
This is why using raw land percentage without population distribution is so misleading.

It also flips the usual “unfairness” argument on its head.
The Jewish state was being asked to absorb almost the entire Jewish population of Palestine while also governing an enormous Arab minority that could have amounted to around half its population.

The Arab state, by contrast, would have been almost ethnically homogeneous.
And that matters politically.
One state would have had a razor-thin Jewish majority and hundreds of thousands of Arab citizens.
The other would have had 725,000 Arabs and only 10,000 Jews.

That is not remotely captured by saying:
“33% got 56%.”
The UN itself recognized this problem. In its report, UNSCOP explicitly said:
“The Arab State will organize the substantial majority of Arabs in Palestine into a political body containing an insignificant minority of Jews; but in the Jewish State there will be a considerable minority of Arabs.”

That is literally how the committee described its own plan.
And it is worth stressing what the plan was trying to solve.
UNSCOP described Palestine as containing two competing national movements, roughly 650,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs, whose political aspirations it regarded as irreconcilable at the time.

Its partition proposal was an attempt to create two sovereign states while preserving an economic union between them.

You can argue that the borders were bad.
You can argue that the plan was unworkable.
You can argue that Arabs objected to being placed under a Jewish-majority government.

All of those are legitimate historical arguments.
But the line:
“Jews were 33% of the population and therefore giving them 56% of the land was obviously unfair”
is an incredibly shallow way to describe the proposal.

It ignores:
The actual population inside each proposed state.
The fact that almost all Jews were concentrated in the Jewish state.

The fact that hundreds of thousands of Arabs were also included in it.

The fact that the Arab state was almost entirely Arab.
The fact that Jerusalem was international.

And the fact that a huge percentage of the Jewish state’s territory was the sparsely populated Negev desert.

Once you include those facts, the partition plan looks much less like “one third of the population was handed most of the country” and much more like what it actually was:
An attempt to divide a mixed population into two states, with the Jewish state carrying by far the larger minority problem and receiving a huge amount of sparsely populated desert territory.
Sources:
UNSCOP Report, 1947, population and partition figures:
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-179435/
UN summary of the population distribution under partition:
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-196558/
UNSCOP majority partition proposal, population table:
https://palquest.org/en/node/40831


r/IsraelPalestine • • 2d ago

Opinion "We don't hate the Jews, just the Israelis", yet majority of the Middle East thinks Jews run the world, and the Holocaust didn't exist

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Hi guys, I don't mean to be pro-Israel when I say this (you can check my post history if you like, no pro-Israel brigading and this is my first post here), but one of the reasons why I'm never fully on board the Pro-Palestine camp is because of the things I often hear from my Muslim friends about Israel and the Jewish people.

I lived in a Muslim-majority country in my childhood, and continue to have Muslim friends to this day, and though they are great people, one rule of thumb I abide by is to never talk about what they think about Jews in general. For example, I remember my high school history teacher, as much as I miss her, telling us that it's okay to insult and make fun of Jews because "Jews always think they are superior to every race, and deserve to be "humbled"".

As much as I think Israel deserves criticism like any other country (for example, Israel is a democratic state, so Israelis can't use the Iran card by saying that people like Smotrich or Ben-Gvir were forced unto them, meaning a significant chunk of the Israeli population truly agree with these people), I often understand why they think that criticism of Israel is sometimes masked antisemitism, because according to opinion polls:

  1. A very large majority of MENA respondents (around 74-82%) believe that "Jews have too much control over the world", as per the ADL.
  2. Pew Research polls show that over 90+% of MENA respondents have highly unfavorable views of Jews, this isn't limited to Arab nations only, as this poll shows that 96% of Indonesians have an unfavorable opinion of Jews as well.
  3. Only 16% of MENA respondents recognize the historical accuracy of the Holocaust, with one third of respondents believing the deaths were exaggerated.
  4. A large majority of MENA respondents believed that "Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars", or that "Jews were behind 9/11". Even now, I sometimes see on random comments on Tiktok and Instagram that Jews were behind Charlie Kirk's death, JFK's assassination, Coronavirus, and even the recent Hantavirus (like this Iranian studies researcher in Canada posted on Twitter).

These kinds of pervasive beliefs is why it's very difficult to establish peace within the Israel-Palestine conflict, and how these beliefs can also go the other way around by further radicalizing Israelis to the right and adopt an even harder siege mentality against other people.

Even if say, this negative sentiment is caused BY the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and yes, while it is normal to distrust a country that you went to war with (e.g., the Irish still harbor lingering distrust for the English, the Chinese still hate the Japanese, etc.), I'd frankly say that the hate Jews receive is a lot more sinister because:

  1. Hatred against Israel/ the Jews in general is something that tends to persist even during peacetime. You don't need to have to go to war with Israel to believe that the Jews were behind "X" disaster or world-changing event.
  2. Related to the above point, while most countries hate a certain country due to historical friction (e.g., the Japanese colonized Korea), hatred of Israel/Jews can be because of historical friction AND current day conspiratorial sentiment (I hate Israel because of what they did to the Palestinians in 1948, and also because I believe they were responsible for "X" recent event).

Imagine saying, "I love black people, but I don't really think they were enslaved and even then, it was probably just a handful and a majority were free. I think they bring this up too much so they can get people like Obama in power." Nobody is asking to be completely tolerant of Jews, but I'd say they at least deserve respect by recognizing the most horrible event that happened in their history actually existed.

Note that none of these excuse how Israelis think of Arab countries too, as this negative sentiment also goes the other way around, but even then I don't think mainstream Israeli Jewish society has the same level of conspiratiorial thinking their Arab Muslim neighbors have towards them.

That's basically the core of my hesitation. While I believe Israelis should pursue peace and not think of depopulating the West Bank as a viable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I understand that it's also hard to do so when the neighboring Egyptian or Syrian next door thinks Mossad/the Jews were behind yet another minute thing they don't like. For the most-hardened pro-Palestinians out there, if your utopian future where Israeli Jews "just leave" does happen, do you really want these Jews to return living among people who think about them this way?

So yeah, in conclusion, the world is cruel, lol. This wasn't meant to be discussing Israeli or Palestinian policy. It just comes from a guy who's tired of yet seeing another Tiktok comment going like, "Yeah, but the 🧃actually planned this, don't cha know?" 🥴


r/IsraelPalestine • • 1d ago

Discussion Have y’all ever known any formerly anti-Zionist Jews who eventually became Zionists? If so, what led them to change their views?

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So, I know that discussions surrounding formerly Zionist Jews turning anti-Zionist have become increasingly common, especially in light of the genocide in Gaza. You also have prominent Jewish figures like Avi Shlaim, Ilan Pappé, Gabor Maté, Simmone Zimmerman, etc all of whom were formerly Zionists but gradually became disillusioned with Zionism for various reasons, many of them long before the current war in Gaza.

Out of the Jews in my life, I've never personally witnessed any of them switch sides. For example, among the Ashkenazim I know, three of my aunts (who married into my family), their children (my cousins), and an Ashkenazi mentor of mine are all staunch Zionists, while the remaining Ashkenazim in my social/personal circle are anti-Zionists to quite an extreme degree (they want ALL of the Jews to leave Israel/Palestine). In the case of the Sephardim/Mizrahim in my life, all of them and their families are hardcore Zionists. None of these people, at any point during the time I've known them, have undergone any significant ideological transformation regarding Zionism. Their positions have remained relatively consistent, regardless of the political developments in Israel and Palestine.

Just going based on media alone, it seems more often that Ashkenazim who were raised in Zionist homes end up becoming anti-Zionist as they've gotten older and have gotten to socialize more with Palestinians and Arabs by extension, particularly as they've become more exposed to Palestinian historical narratives, the realities of the occupation, and perspectives that may not have been emphasized in their upbringing. Of course, I'm aware this could simply reflect the kinds of Jewish voices that receive more media attention, rather than an accurate representation of broader ideological trends within Jewish communities.

However, I'm curious about the opposite phenomenon. Have any of you known Jews who were raised in anti-Zionist households, or who personally identified as anti-Zionists for a significant portion of their lives, but eventually came to embrace Zionism? I'm also interested in cases where this transformation happened in adulthood, rather than simply reflecting the political beliefs they inherited from their families.

If so, what prompted the change? Was it a greater appreciation for Jewish history and national identity, personal experiences with antisemitism, disillusionment with certain anti-Zionist movements, interactions with Israelis, or perhaps a reassessment of what Zionism actually means to them? I'm not necessarily talking about Jews who became staunch supporters of the Israeli government or its policies, but rather those who came to believe that Jewish national self-determination in Israel/Palestine was something worth supporting, even if they remained critical of the Israeli state's actions.

I'd especially appreciate hearing from Jewish users here who have personally undergone this ideological transformation, although I'd also be interested in hearing about people you've known who experienced something similar.


r/IsraelPalestine • • 2d ago

Short Question/s Has Anyone else Noticed a Drop in Vitriolic Debates?

36 Upvotes

After the Russian datacenter got bombed, I've been experiencing more civil debates with reasonable people who are clearly busy and not dedicating their entire lives to opinions about Israel and Palestine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/13/ukrainian-strikes-russian-datacentres-online-disinformation-bots


r/IsraelPalestine • • 2d ago

Discussion Hate

16 Upvotes

I know how much hate there is for each other on both sides of the table, I myself cant really talk for the israelis/jews but i can talk about how i feel as a Palestinian American, i was born and raised in the US. I use to go to protests as a kid all the time in New York and obviously at the time i didn't really understand what was going on or what i was there for i was just a kid. When i would go visit my family in Palestine id go through the borders and have to sit for hours and hours just to be let through and i was definitely terrified of the huge guns the Israelis carried but nothing ever happened to me or my family so i never really thought too much about it, at the time i probably just thought they were Palestinian as well and not a different country that was at war with us.

The stories were what really made me fear them, id hear stories about how the soldiers would kidnap people in the middle of the night or how they would kill you if you were left alone. There was one time i went to pray in one of the mosques in Jerusalem, i remember i was in the back with all the other kids playing around with the rolled up carpets, i crawled inside one of them and got stuck and i was crying, everyone else left because it was prayer time and all their parents were calling them, i was still there crying and asking for help, one of the older ladies came up to me and thought i was goofing around and she told me that if i didn't get out of the carpet she would call the soldiers on me and have them take me away. I was so scared i literally peed myself. Eventually my mom came to help me out and it just became a funny story we laughed about. But tbh ever since then i was deathly afraid of the IDF.

As a kid I was always grateful i got to live and grow up in America because it was a free country and i didn't have to be afraid of the IDF. Israel and Palestine was always a discussion though in our household and even at school where most of my classmates were Arab and Muslim and a large majority being Palestinian as well. I never realized that my country would be such a huge topic in the world when i grew up, it is literally all over social media, on billboards, in many many memes and in almost every political discussion. The reason I'm making this post though is because i want to talk about how i feel about the amount of hate that has been going on. Government aside i want to talk as a person, just a girl who grew up in America and happened to be Palestinian and Muslim, I grew up being hated on from both sides, i was confused about religion, and i was confused why people hated me so much. its just so weird that the fact that i just AM Palestinian will give people so many thoughts about me as a person, to one I'm a terrorist to another I'm homophobic to another I'm racist and so on, even though I'm NONE of these things, I've never had a hateful thought about a group of people the way people do about me, even when i see Israelis living in Israel all i can think is i wonder what its like on the other side. When i graduated high school and went to college i took off my hijab and i didn't tell people I was Palestinian, its not that i feared what people would think i just wanted to see if i was treated differently, and i was people weren't afraid to approach me and talk to me, not every discussion had to be political and i got to live normally.

Whenever i load up Tik tok its always some stupid bullshit. After the presidential election so many people came online to hate on Palestinians for voting 3rd party and just decided that we weren't worthy of being cared about anymore, i never understood what these people expected from us. We see our families dying back home and they expect us to vote between two corrupt parties who want nothing but to hurt us. Same with PRIDE, they HATE us because they think that we would kill them for being gay when btw I've seen plenty of Palestinian girls kissing each other. Everyone just groups everyone into these categories its just so unfair, people will form opinions about you without even knowing you, and not only Palestinians but Israelis too, so much hate online towards Israelis, have you ever thought that there might be a young person who happened to have been born in Israel or their family moved to Israel, they were just born there, and this is why both sides hate each other so much they grow up being told the other side hates them, they hear stories and see the media and now there's just more and more hate. I'm not going to act like i know how to solve this issue, but I'm just so depressed and tired from all the hate that's always being spewed around. Some of us are just people who grew up and want our people to stop dying, some of us are tired of the government representing us as a whole. I wish i knew if any other people felt this way but unfortunately i don't i can just speak for myself.