He needs the immortals flight or Thragg could just throw him into the sun. Even if Brit can survive there, he couldn’t leave and rescue would be very difficult.
Do keep in mind that the sun is not solid. So assuming he does get flung into it, he would have a hell of a time getting to the surface much less getting out.
The sun's mass is spread out, you experience the most attraction near the edge and you gain comparatively less resistance as you get closer. It's not a drop off like a black hole because the mass isn't collected at a point, and so once you're in, a growing fraction of it is behind you
And super speed far greater than any viltrumite. Yes they are fast. But not THAT fast.
Edit: red rush runs around the planet and fights various crimes in seconds, while still having a conversation with his girlfriend. Thragg is nowhere near that level.
From what we’ve seen, seems like viltrumites have a high top speed but need some time to accelerate. Thragg (and Red Rush) seem able to accelerate almost immediately but might not have that much greater a top speed.
He didn't realize/notice what they were doing in time. When Space Racer pulls out his gun Thragg yells NO and speeds after them, and he almost gets there, but they make impact and the shockwave blasts him away
Probably scale, think about it theyre deep in space mid fight. They couldve been thousands of miles ahead of him before he realized what they were doing
I think he could have caught them but he was already so far behind them and the explosion from hitting the planet blew him in the other direction. It seemed like he was catching up pretty quickly.
Which means Nolan has to be at least somewhat similar in terms of speed. If we're going with "saw him in slow motion" then he just watched Nolan ever so slowly reach toward his hand and...let him grab it? Lol
No doubt Red Rush is faster, but not by a crazy margin. Thragg is considerably faster than Nolan.
It's simply inconsistent no need to twist knots trying to justify it. Viltrumites don't even move fast enough to do a speed change that you wouldn't notice, Red Rush is fast enough to do every other part of fighting crime and forget the costume change faster than you can notice.
Nolan caught him and killed him because the plot said he would, there's simply no other way someone that can move and react that quick gets 'predicted' and caught, you're only catching them if you make literally every other option impossible/equally deadly.
Red Rush was so fast that Nolan had to fake a blind spot in order to predict a hit of his and get him. In their fight, he intentionally looks away to have his hand ready in anticipation
Yes indeed, but maybe smh viltrumites are able to manipulate gravity given that they can fly. So possibly means they can use that to theoretically go faster then light.
Id still say viltrumites are technically faster then redrush just because we really havent seen his full potential.
I got downvoted because I told someone that there’s no way Viltrumites fly a million times the speed of light. Multiple people told me I’m a horrible power scaler and called me stupid. Robert Kirkman puts us in bad situations when it comes to scaling abilities in this story
Yea just picture this person still not being enough to kill thragg, but enough to give him a hard fight, so thragg goes for a knife hand and just shatters his own fingers
You go from enemy to enemy, you can even let machines be build to inflict physical harm to you. Then you just need to be smarter than powerplex and never release your energy
And when you have enough, you one-shot thragg. Didn't work? Doesn't matter. You just need to collect energy again, this time collect more.
The only thing that could stop you, is someone who physically traps you, so you can't escape and can't collect energy.
But he still needs to breathe air right? so he is severely limited still. And I can’t remember if power plex can fly, and if so, does it required atmosphere?
Yeah he’s shown being able to hover/fly using his hands to shoot electricity downwards.
And whether that requires atmosphere? Lightning requires atmosphere but if he’s producing it himself there’s no reason to believe he does. However I assume he’s producing some sort of magnetic force downward to fly since electricity on its own wouldn’t produce upwards force. That may mean he needs a surface to fly above.
That’s what I meant by lightning requires an atmosphere. Guess i should have said “bolts”. Electricity can be produced in a vacuum but not bolts. If he produces it and controls it then he’s producing something for it to conduct through. Otherwise it would randomly go in several directions like what we see with Tesla coils.
Yeah but all that needs to be done is the same thing mark does to subdue him. Hold on tight. The power potential is great, until Thragg realizes that all he has to do is hold onto his arms
So a genuinely invulnerable speedster with flight, immortality, and electric powers, who already starts at the strength of a low tier viltrumite and only gets stronger the more damage he takes? The Viltrumites legit have no way of stopping him, he sweeps the verse.
I think this combination beats Thragg pretty easily.
Immortal’s super strength is enough to hurt Omni-man you add in Red Rush’s speed, Brit’s invulnerability and Powerplex’s ability and they’d be too much for even Thragg
I think it’d just be a stalemate. Having Brit’s powers plus Red Rush’s speed plus Immortal’s… well, immortality, means there’s nothing Thragg could really do to harm him.
However, given the kind of things Thragg was able to just shrug off, I doubt any attack from this character is strong enough to really affect Thragg either, given his strength level is about the Immortal’s which is less than even a Season 2 Mark and Powerplex’s energy blasts I don’t see being strong enough to do much.
But then again, maybe since it’s Brit + Powerplex there’s no cap to how much charge he could build up, meaning that he could eventually build up a charge powerful enough to even one-shot guys like Thragg and Battle Beast. Also, perhaps his Immortal-level strength is enhanced when given Red Rush’s speed.
Realistically speed is the bigger factor to his punches so with Red Rush added who was able to make Nolan cough up blood in the fraction of time it took to crush his skull now with Immortals strength and Brits indestructible body he should be able to damage him even if it's an attrition thing. The problem is whether we get to apply Red Rushes speed to Immortals flight even though they don't technically overlap because otherwise he could play keep away. Also he may be able to grapple you and drag you to the sun or something or keep punches you toward it and tanking the hits you can return in each exchange. Note how much faster in flight Thragg was and how long it took Nolan to stop flying away after being punched (tbh I consider that more of an inconsistency thing as writers just don't acknowledge anyone with true flight like them don't magically lose it when knock away and even if the momentum was so much it took time to slow themselves they can also just fly with it and bank around instead of directly resisting it).
Your talking about a guy with super speed, super strength infinite durability can fly and any “damage” that they do take is transferred into electricity that they can shoot from where ever the fuck they want? No amount of viltrumites could defeat this hero, you could have 12 trillions thraggs and they quite literally couldn’t do shit
So… brit makes you impossible to kill, powerplex makes you stronger after every hit, immortal lets you breath in space and fly + some decent stats at the start and red rush lets you run fast… yeah thragg is cooked
so kinetic energy absorption and electricity that can kill a viltrumite, Super speed, indestructibility, and super strength below a viltrumite and flight
I'd say they win due to having way higher speed and durability and offensively they get stronger the longer the fight goes on
their flight also prevents them from being thrown into space
Ok so this oneshots literally anything in the verse.
Red Rush + Powerplex + Brit
Pound on your chest like a gorilla at super speed to build up charge, fly up to whoever you want to kill, let em have it, and they just die immediately. If a few punches from Invincible can make Powerdipshit strong enough to actually damage him, then a few thousand hits at Red Rush speed in just a few seconds would get you strong enough to fucking **rinse** Thragg.
Immortal Punching power is at the very least Vidor level. He was hurting Nolan in both fights. Give the character complete invulnerability like Brit, Red Rush's speed and Powerplex's electric powers and this is pretty much a character that solos the verse. Heck, just Brit and Powerplex's powers combined means he can take infinite damage and that will lead to him releasing an electric charge to fry entire planets.
So, super-speed beyond normal Viltrumite levels. Massive strength and the ability to fly. Invulnerability. Damage absorption. And immortality to try again if they don't obliterate your body if you still somehow lost?
Massive overkill. Yeah, this combo of powers wins.
I mean I feel like Brit + Immortal could do it since Britt's only weakness is that he can't fly. Like could he Damage Thragg? No but eventually. Like there just isn't a way to win from someone who doesnt age, and is completely invulnerble to everything.
Brit seemingly possesses absolute invulnerability, making him immune to all forms of damage including internal injuries, disease, massive impact forces and even esoteric attacks like soul draining magic. Add in Powerplex and Red Rush just makes him an even greater threat.
That's not even considering Immortals immortality. Unfortunately his strength is the most severe disadvantage here. It's ain't enough to damage Thragg at all.
And following that up, do the powers afect each other? Like, does red Rush super speed now also affect the flying speed? And most important, does the electrical supercharge still only work as a blast move, or does the energy full the other powers making the user stronger and faster?
First off, I refuse to believe that Thragg would immediately understand Power Plex's ability, remember that Mark only knows because he's seen it before and was told about it by Donald, without that kind of heads up, Thragg would immediately start throwing hands, and after nothing works(with both Brits and Power Plex's forms of invulnerability) He would go even harder
If Red Rush's and Immortals speed stack, then he'd move at speeds faster than Thragg could perceive and hit him with an electric punch filled with multiple Thragg punches worth of electricity, that is also enhanced with the speed of the two, with absolutely no holding back due to Brit's invincibility
A hero with all four yes, you only need Brit and immortal (literally just for flight) since Brit can beat thragg eventually, but he can’t chase or leave a planet/sun if thrown to one, all four is overkill tbh
Not only is Brit literally (title card) but he can also absorb all of Thragg’s insanely powerful attacks and turn them into electricity which we know can kill viltrumites. It’ll take a while but Thragg would eventually lose.
Red Rush and Brit is essentially god. Infinite durability and the speed of the fastest character in the series, he could essentially run into anybody at full speed and eviscerate them. Add flying capabilities with the Immortal and literally flawless. For somebody to take him on and win, they’d have to be…
If they have the full capability of Britt’s powers then absolutely because thragg will never be able to hurt him. Red rush’s speed would out speed him too really the only question is could this power set throw attacks back at thragg hard enough to actually hurt him. I really don’t know the answer.
These 4 powers would be enough to kill most things. Completely invulnerable, unlimited stamina, flight, super strength and super speed. The rest is just a bonus.
You would probably go mad with Red Rush's ability though. Man was a saint.
Dude they’re entirely invulnerable, can fly, have super strength, super speed, and can convert kinetic energy into electricity 😭 what is Thragg meant to do
I think the biggest thing this will come down to is durability. If he can take a hit from thrag, the recoil shock hopefully can vaporize him. If not, then ehhhhhh
I think immortal should have been upset about mark cramping his style and wearing a very similar costume. Same colors. Same "I". The only difference are those white lines. Idk why im just now noticing this.
Immortal was able to draw blood from Nolan, Red Rush was able to put speed him and Brits invulnerability plus Power Plex ability to absorb impacts. The fight will drag on until they take enough hits to actually hurt Thragg but the fused hero would win eventually
The immortal only really adds the power of flight. Which will be a necessity once thragg realised the other combinations can’t go airborne.
Red rush gives the ability to at least keep up with any movement.
So it really depends how combining powerplex with Brit works. Does Brit feel zero impact? In which case powerplex is useless. If not, one strong hit from thragg is absorbed not only by brits invulnerability, but can also be charged back at him.
Yes i do.
Immortal can fly and punch hard (not hard enough to move him him) brit is
[TITLE CARD]
so he aint taking no damage
Powerplex is where it
Get interesting cuz if thragg tries anything he make him stronger
And Red rush speed can make him go axay and come back to strike harder
I think overall brit not taking damage
Poxerplex becoming stronger with hits is what can make him win
Well immortal could already box Nolan, Brit is literally incapable of taking damage, red rush ain't really doing much here, but a minor speed boost is alright, and power Plex makes thragg his own worst enemy
This is hard but I think he does take it let me explain. Let's say immortals flight is that of a vilturmites giving him a run way from the edge of the universe so we could say red rushes speed and britts durability he could run much faster than thragg not having to worry about tearing his skin off say 10x faster than thargg that speed with the strength of immortal would do a good jaw dislocation and then he has enough power pelx shit and he might fry his skin of or he can do it again and again it is close
I think combining powerplex and brit would already be enough. Being indestructible and also getting stronger every time you're hit guarantees you'll always win eventually.
What are you asking. Can someone who is indestructible and as they get hit absorb that power to fire back can fly is only al little weaker but faster and can think faster can beat a viltrmite. What?
It seems to me there are very few checks on Viltrumite strength. In the Marvel universe, you have characters like Xavier, Emma Frost, and others to deal with super-strong opponents. Does the Kirkman universe have anyone similar?
Brit+Immortal is enough tbh. Immortal has the strength to hurt viltrumites, even if he's not as strong as them. If Immortal had Brit's invulnerability then he can just relentlessly throw himself at Thragg and Thragg can't do anything about it other than keep sending him back. He'd win eventually.
here's the thing the immortal has the raw strength to defeat a Viltrumit he just can't take a hit worth a damn. So just the immortals powers and brits powers should be enough to kill a Viltrumit but I don't think the immortal has the strength to kill thragg. But then all 4, yeah that's a even match.
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u/Extension-Bad-4184 The Immortal May 03 '26
Brit plus anybody here is enough eventually.