r/Infuriating • u/MdTooDevilish Valued Contributor • 4d ago

Most cops get annoyed because drivers won't cooperate or have proper documentation..this cop got annoyed because a driver was too cooperative with too much documentation

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u/kalash762x39 4d ago

Dude got his car from Dubai to the USA, he probably knows what he is talking about. How often do police run into that scenario where the cop would be an expert on international DMV laws.

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u/Ancient-Task5926 4d ago

The problem is not that he isn't an expert , the problem is that he cannot admit that he doesn't know.

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u/raichulolz 3d ago

It's an incredible showcase of low-intelligence, it's insane how defensive that cop was. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you came across something that doesn't happen often and there's nothing wrong with hearing a person out.

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u/kalabaddon 2d ago

its a very stong litmus test from upbringning I think. Like people who where raised that your dumb for not knowing really changes them. They will hem and haw and do ANYTHING but ask someone. cause asking someone is when it turns in to them being a dumb ass for not knowing.

In this case he was just an asshole to a foreigner. that is "acceptable" to his peers and the people arouind him, there is no shame to him from people he cares about in this action. letting them see HIM as being week or ignorant is abolsutly never acceptable and super shamefull.

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u/Fantastic_Seaweed712 1d ago

He's a low intelligence and a low life state trooper that only exists to write speeding tickets. Can't stand state troopers and why they even exist in the first place!

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u/SnowSlapper 12h ago

They already pay them six figures

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u/Sms570x 13h ago

Well if the cop admits fault, would that not make it harder for the possible potential suspect to use that fault in court?

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u/21questionier 1d ago

He was not being defensive at all. He is asking for the documents that make it legal for that particular individual to drive that particular vehicle on those particular roads. The right documentation and paperwork is what everyone who drives in the US should be obligated to provide.

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u/MzQuietfire 14h ago

He was extremely defensive and refused to listen to an explanation of a procedure he was unfamiliar with. The driver obviously has more money than we could ever imagine and the trooper was too enmeshed in performing like someone from Oregon would perform.

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u/21questionier 14h ago

What does having more money than others have to do with driving legally? That is slippery territory.

Anyways, the police officer, as I pointed out, was asking for very specific documents. The driver was providing documents that were not what the officer was asking for. Whether the officer was asking for the right documents or not is another question.

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u/kilkor 3d ago

The problem is that when they don't know the laws and want to arbitrarily try to enforce something they don't know about they have qualified immunity. They suffer zero consequences for being ignorant.

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u/traffick 2d ago

Sadly, law enforcement is effectively above the law.

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u/Dear-Examination-507 1d ago

Don't disagree with anything you said, but I think the primary problem is not ignorance, it's arrogance.

An ignorant but not arrogant cop is capable of interacting with people in a human way, open to the possibility of not knowing everything.

A non-ignorant but arrogant cop may know what he's doing but is not facing the public as a public servant.

An ignorant and arrogant cop is a menace to society.

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u/Used_Conversation520 4d ago

I think the underlying problem is that an insecure white man is trying to uphold his power-position onto a brown man, but this time, the brown man is educating the white man. Little does the brown man know, but the white man is uneducable.

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u/Goldglove528 4d ago

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin. It's the cop unable to admit that he doesn't know everything. Ego is not a white-only trait. Stop making everything about race.

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u/Used_Conversation520 4d ago

Everything isn't about race, I agree.

But damn, whitey cop from Oregon isn't used to seeing educated brown men.

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u/AdSelect6571 4d ago

you just can't look past skin color

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u/Odd-Presentation5738 3d ago

How do you get to the conclusion he's educated

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u/Used_Conversation520 3d ago

He's not wearing a MAGA hat, so he's at least somewhat educated. Also, he's not from Murika and appears to have emotional intelligence, unlike officer angry.

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u/diggitydonegone 1d ago

You’re behaving like the police officer in the video.

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u/Used_Conversation520 20h ago

That makes no sense, but thanks for chiming in.

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u/BornTruths 3d ago

The problem is you're a racist.

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u/Used_Conversation520 2d ago

Nope, just a white man pointing out that another white man is foolish. It's that simple.

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u/Optimal-Chud 2d ago

I doubt you are a white man. If you are and you have such self-loathing you should work on that.

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u/Used_Conversation520 2d ago

Well, sorry to break the news but I'm quite white!

And thanks for the diagnosis...I'll try harder to love myself, I guess???

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u/Optimal-Chud 1d ago

At least like yourself and recognize that you can work to right historical wrongs without taking on personal blame for things that happened before you were even born.

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u/Used_Conversation520 1d ago

I'm not taking personal blame - an ass is an ass regardless of the color of their skin. That officer was an ass...

Anyhow, people are capable of loving themselves while also recognizing right from wrong.

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u/Optimal-Chud 1d ago

Well both of those points are good. No argument here.

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u/TerrySizzle 3d ago

Now that someone else said it we can also assume this thread is full of brown people that are upset that a white man is attempting to enforce the law. Now I don’t have to seem like a racist for making race based assumptions if others are doing it too.

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u/Allthingsgaming27 3d ago

He’s confidently incorrect.

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u/cheap_chalee 2d ago

That's actually only half the problem. The other half is him thinking he knows everything to begin with.

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u/OHW_Tentacool 1d ago

Devils advocate here; oregon is full of Sovcits, fast talkers and swindlers who all say stuff like this to get out of tickets and taxes. If this guys been on the force for a while he's probably heard lines that sound just like this guy except in the end it was all a line of bs. Bad apples spoiling the bunch and stuff. The cop could definitely do with an attitude adjustment though.

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u/TheOCDGeek 1d ago

bingo! you think he’s repeating in his head “command the scene” or whatever their mantra is

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u/CarmineDePasto 16h ago

but the cop said "I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about".

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u/Jsolidlo 2d ago

That's not even the real problem. The real problem is that they are trained to pull over anybody for any little reason to find something to charge them with after the fact. If they were actually fighting crime, instead of trying to manifest it out of nowhere, then they wouldn't even be out there pulling over cars like this.

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u/-Maiq_the_Iiar- 1d ago

Playing devil's advocate: from the POV of the officer, how do you know that the driver is telling the truth, or is just trying to get away with an illegitimate license plate? Drivers lying to get away with illegal things isn't exactly unheard of.

From what i can see here, it's an extremely rare eddge case that you can't expect all cops to be educated in.

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u/Upbeat-Fondant9185 1d ago

You’re right. The guy could be lying. It’s unfortunate he didn’t have an entire stack of documentation supporting his claims and a federal law he could reference to the officer. It’s also unfortunate the officer doesn’t have a computer of some sort in his pocket and in easy access in his vehicle that could quickly confirm this information.

What would be really nice is if the cop had multiple lines of communication to supervisors who have direct lines to attorneys and judges who are accustomed to spot checks on violations from police in the field.

Alas, without all these things at his fingertips he’s left with no other choice but to assume everyone is lying since some people in the past have lied. It’s just the safest option here.

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u/whacking0756 1d ago

If only the driver was being polite and understanding and had a solid grasp of the English language!

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u/-Maiq_the_Iiar- 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'd like to think that the police department has a legal department of some sort they can call to verify things like this, but i don't know if that's the case in the US.

edit: ah, i do believe your entire comment was sarcasm. Thing is, to effectively look something up (with that 'computer of some sort' you mentioned) you already need to have a certain amount knowledge in that field. Just because you get handed a stack of papers about import regulations of hypercars from a foreign country, doesn't mean you can effectively separate the wheat from the chaff within its contents.

I mean, why do patients get told not to google for self-treatment? Because they lack medical knowledge, and usually don't know what to look for.

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u/Upbeat-Fondant9185 1d ago

Yes, it was sarcasm. Police are provided a plethora of options to check laws and regulations.

What you’re arguing is that while we already don’t require police to know the law they’re enforcing we also shouldn’t have any expectation that they be able to utilize the many resources provided to them at our expense to confirm what they don’t know. That’s setting the bar so low you need a shovel to start digging.

It’s literally their job to separate the wheat from the chaff, as you say. The citizen has no obligation to prove they aren’t committing a crime, this is a basic tenant of our legal system.

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u/-Maiq_the_Iiar- 1d ago

I'll just have to disagree then. You don't think it's impossible that there are any edge cases in which the officer, despite his training, might not be sure whether or not what a driver is claiming is correct? I think there are (as shown in the video).

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u/simplemindedsailor 19h ago

The issue isn't that the officer didn't know, or wasn't sure - the issue is that the officer was a jerk. Condescending, dismissive, and unwilling to admit the limits of his knowledge. I don't think anyone expects cops to know everything, particularly in situations like this, and I fully expect cops to be suspect of whatever info a driver says to them, but they can be suspicious without being unprofessional.

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u/dummyit 18h ago

I feel like we watched 2 different videos. Sure the officer could've come off as nicer but I don't see where he came off as a jerk at all.

If anything, I see the driver being way more condescending in his attitude.

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u/holyelvis 1d ago

Simple - you issue the ticket and let the dude have his day in court. Or you don't issue the ticket because you don't have probable cause to believe a violation was committed.

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u/OgdruJahad 1d ago

I'm sorry are cops allowed to Google things? I would have googled that stuff up right quick and add the state I was in.

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u/Thick_Cookie_7838 4d ago

Most don’t know laws outside of their own state on this level. Is exceptionally rare situation they don’t waste time educating officers on it

I went to college with lots of international students. One of my best friend me was for Ireland and his car was registered there. Since he was a student he didn’t have to register it in the state and long as he has valid insurance in the U.S. he’s ok to drive it.

He got pulled over and the cop had no clue on the law, however unlike this dick he called his supervisor and took the time to inform himself told my friend thanks for letting him know and marked it in their system so if he got pulled again the officer would know

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u/Tenzipper 3d ago

Most don’t know laws outside of their own state on this any level.

FTFY.

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u/singlemale4cats 4d ago edited 4d ago

Is exceptionally rare situation they don’t waste time educating officers on it

This right here.

My department educates us on international driver's licenses and what countries the United States has reciprocity with and things of that nature because we run into it all the time. Very diverse community.

This guy seems like just about every other rich Arab guy I've met. Polite, accommodating, not argumentative. He could be one of the business owners in my city.

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u/Asooma_ 22h ago

What department? Cause im willing to bet its a department with a high concentration of international tourists and that this situation has happened enough where they deem it important enough to specifically train on it.

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u/Melodic-Source2435 4d ago

Probably because he was Irish. And he wasn't a dick about it, like the guy in the video

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u/AxelNotRose 4d ago

"I know you're confused"

Always works with cops, for de-escalation purposes. It's magic.

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u/Dodger808 3d ago

Yeah once he said that I knew was going to go left... 😂

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u/shadowrun456 3d ago

So stating a fact is not acceptable? The cop was confused. Saying "you're confused" is a lot more polite than saying "you're wrong" or "you're lying" or "you're ignorant" or "you're mistaken". He used the word "confused" to be polite and to avoid hurting the cop's feelings, but the cop still managed to get offended.

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u/Dodger808 3d ago

How about not saying " you're confused" .... Not saying he doesn't have the right to say it..I totally get it.But it works just as well as telling someone who's getting visibly agitated by something to "calm down" 😂.. Just cos you can don't mean you should. Either way the cop had another "call" to go take care of so I guess it all worked out 😂

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u/AxelNotRose 3d ago

Like telling my wife to relax. Never fails.

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u/WestAussieSingh 1d ago

I wouldn’t expect a cop from a normal country to get annoyed by it.

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u/raichulolz 3d ago

In no point of the video the UAE guy was being a dick lol.

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u/Parmenion87 2d ago

I had a border patrol officer in Texas try to tell me, when I was travelling under the Visa Waiver Program, that she didn't know what that was, and that I had no visa... Tried to explain to her, and told her I went through US customs in Vancouver airport, and then she tried to tell me there is no US customs in Vancouver Airport... She was getting a bit belligerent with it and just kept repeating "you have no valid visa".. And that a Visa waiver is nothing to do with her department and she doesn't know what it is.

Pretty sure the only reason she let me go was was because I'm white as fuck and there was a queue of traffic behind me with it being the only lane open..

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u/XepptizZ 4d ago

They aren't even well versed in domestic laws. They just need a handful of vague and general reasons in the US to pull shit and fall back pn qualified immunity if their "hunch" was incorrect.

The most basic one being to attempt to arrest someone and any hostile action is shoved into "resisting arrest".

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u/Im_Just_A_Tourist 4d ago

Resisting without injuring the police should be perfectly legal.

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u/whatever--idk 3d ago

So should resisting unlawful arrest

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u/Asooma_ 22h ago

It is. But you'd better be right or youre fucked.

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u/tofuhater 3d ago

The pearl clutching union would like to have a word sir!

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u/exodusofficer 4d ago

I'm not sure I've ever met a cop who even knew the pistol laws. They're obscenely incompetent most of the time.

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u/Whatachooch 4d ago

Not that I agree with everything that DailyDrivenExotics does there’s a fucking wild video of him interacting with a cop in California that insists to drive in California you need a California DL and a Canadian one isn’t acceptable. Like not even a valid license from any US state. A California DL. 

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u/Spare-Plan-2169 4d ago

Honestly this, I rarely see Mexican cars, and I live an hour or so from the border. I'd imagine some cops will start asking a few questions about a car with Dubai license plates because they don't know better. Because, well why would they you can go 25 years in law enforcement and not deal with such things and if it's not something they taught you are the academy or they taught it to you, but it was 20-plus years ago, you wouldn't remember it

SO yea the cop should have been a little humble

State troopers are usually pretty competent, all things considered, though at least the ones in Arkansas were

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u/Calm_Tumbleweed6452 2d ago

How do they deal with cars from Canada?

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u/ve-u27 4d ago

Arkansas state police are notoriously incompetent

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u/Spare-Plan-2169 4d ago

The are unironically the only agency I dealt with that felt competent

I must have just gotten lucky with a very good trooper

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u/Ima-Bott 2d ago

They know how to PIT pregnant women pretty good

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u/AxelNotRose 4d ago

It's a Carnet de Passages en Douanes (CPD) and you can get one for the USA and Canada here: https://www.atacarnet.com/Carnet-de-Passages-en-Douanes-CPD-Issuing-in-US-and-Canada

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u/PandiBong 1d ago

Also, it's not a problem than an officer doesn't know/isn't sure when faced with something unusual. Problem is the pig behaves like an absolute dictator and luckily, gets completely humiliated.

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u/Fly_throwaway37 14h ago

And here we find the biggest issue. When faced with something they don't know their first instinct is to jump to anger.

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u/ExtraThickUnit 4d ago

I have dealt with this dude personally.

He is a huge dick.

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u/imajackash 4d ago

He needs to pull the huge dick out of his ass.

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u/longperipheral 3d ago

That said, a number of imported cars are towed every year in London because the princes out whoever the fly in their Lambos don't actually bother to do their paperwork, unlike the guy in this video. 

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u/Desperate-Tomatillo7 3h ago

They barely know any local law. How do you expect them to even grasp international laws?

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u/superbishibashi 2h ago

The cop does know about international laws though. He probably sees dozens of cars from a certain country north of us everyday. The guy should of dumbed it down some so the cop could understand. He shouldn't of have mentioned flying his car over that just sounds outlandish. The cop doesn't make the kind of money where that's even fathomable. He should of asked the cop if he's ever driven his car to Canada or seen a Canadian car in the US. Then ask if you need import documents for that? Then you can explain to him that you just flew the car over instead of driving it. Maybe mention Its expensive, but its the same idea.

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u/CrazyUnipony 1d ago

Still has to comply with state and local laws if your living there. Not having a proper license will cause you problems.

This seems to be a intentional troll move by the way hes acting.

Generation of clicks for video.

Just get a proper permit and stop wasting cops time.

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u/FrequentSwimming6263 1d ago

Are you dense?

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u/Saskjimbo 21h ago

Hes not living there. He stated thay 10 times in the video.