r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • Sep 23 '24

Recent Updates (new organizations and meetings)

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We’ve added new organizations to our top pinned post. Also, there is a new Saturday meeting on the 7 Day Calendar. Just to ease any anxiety around the online groups; nothing is recorded, no attendance taken, no mandatory reporting, zero strings attached, you can just click the links and show up. You do not need to turn your camera on or use your microphone if that is how you feel most comfortable. All present are experiencers, it is not a place of judgment. We are approaching 12 hour coverage M-F and hope you’ll make the most of this collection of pivotal resources. 

Additionally, if you are interested in seeing any studies on peer led support please see the Open Dialogue Documentary, the 2023 Report on Improving Mental Health Outcomes, and this 2024 Study Revealing Long-term Outcomes Better for Those Who Stop Antipsychotics. These are aggregate studies (a study of studies).


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • Sep 24 '23

Aggregate of HVN Online Meetings and Organization Websites

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There is one guiding ethos of this space; we do not pathologize others, nor do we tell others what to believe or what to do. I.e. we do not tell other's they are unwell, we do not direct others how to go about getting well, we do not tell each-other what to believe. See the VCVC model for more tips on how to make friends here! If this seems counter productive to you, consider this space as a place for experiencers to share lived experience and gain wisdom passively through understanding each-other and their life's story. Certainly there are a host of wellness strategies and stories of great recovery to be found in the International Hearing Voices Network. This ethos exists to keep this space functional and free from censorship, there are HVN meetings hosted on several different online platforms, and within the walls of asylums. It is a very doable effort to phrase one's own wisdom as such, instead of forcing perspective through authoritative directions.

Video Explaining the Open Dialogue approach where more than 85% of participants report wellness into full recovery within 5 years. Less than 10% of participants take any medications at all during their involvement, generally the only medications prescribed are sleep aids over the first 2 weeks of participation. Through discussion and real community, peers help to mend each-other's mental burdens.

Video Explaining the Hearing Voices Network. Hearing Voices Networks, closely related to the Hearing Voices Movement, are peer-focused national organizations for people who hear voices and supporting family members, activists and mental health practitioners. HVN meetings are spaces of trust, respect, equality, acceptance and mutuality. They affirm that each person has the right to develop their own understanding of their experiences. There is no attempt to persuade, teach, preach, fix or change ideas. Hearing Voices Groups become communities where people can find acceptance, belonging, purpose, and space to explore, and learn about one’s self, their experiences and their connections with others and the world.

Aggregate of Online HVN Meetings by Day and Time (PST). This collection of HVN zoom meetings is posted as an easy on-ramp for voice hearers to HVN support networks. Many struggle to navigate separate organization’s websites to gain access to this information. Additionally, there do not seem to be any similar aggregate calendars currently available. Please let me know if any of the links in the above document no longer work or if you have more to add (always looking for more organizations and zoom meetings).

Hearing Voices Network websites:

Anyone who hears voices or has unique mental phenomena can facilitate provided they follow the easily adhered to guidelines already described in this post. To get paid in a non for profit space you'll likely need certification. See here (at the bottom) to have your own virtual meeting incorporated into the most all inclusive calendar online.

Australia:

Belgium REV

Bosnia and Herzegovina HVN

Brazil:

Canada:

Croatia HVN

Czech Republic HVN

Denmark HVN

England:

Finland HVN

France REV

Germany HVN

Greece:

Iceland HVN

Ireland HVN

Israel HVN

Italy HVN

Malta HVN

Netherlands HVN

New Zealand HVN

Portugal HVN

Serbia HVN

Switzerland HVN

USA:

Wales HVN

Organizations involved in the Hearing Voices Movement:

Wildflower Alliance - To host your own HVN meeting and become a trained facilitator see: here

interVoice also see: International Map of HVN Networks

Voice Collective

Council For Evidence-Based Psychiatry

Critical Psychiatry Network

National Alliance on Mental Illness

OpenExellence

PAIMI

Studies:

Additionally, if you are interested in seeing any studies on peer led support please see the Open Dialogue Documentary, the 2023 Report on Improving Mental Health Outcomes, and this 2024 Study Revealing Long-term Outcomes Better for Those Who Stop Antipsychotics. These are aggregate studies (a study of studies) that span 70 years of longitudinal data. They also incorporate long term follow-up cohort studies lasting 15 to 20 years and continuing for multiple decades after for follow-up comparison. Geographically these studies draw from multiple cultures and at least 25 separate nations, compiling data from 50 to 100's of other studies, spanning more than 6 million people. Meta-analysis and systematic reviews like these are considered among the most reliable forms of evidence. The results are very conclusive with minimal deviation from trend.

Decades of longitudinal and systematic research have shown that coercion and forced intervention are associated with increased trauma, disengagement, and worsening long-term outcomes, while voluntary, community-based support centered on human connection consistently produces better recovery trajectories (1,2,3,4). Randomized and policy-level evaluations have further found that compulsory treatment does not improve long-term readmission or recovery outcomes despite significantly restricting personal liberty (5). At the same time, epidemiological studies in the UK and internationally have found that hearing voices is a relatively common human experience, reported by between roughly 5% and 28% of the general population, reinforcing the importance of responding with support, dignity, and understanding rather than coercion (6,7,8).


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 2h ago

Audible disembodied voice

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I have had two experiences with this with two separate people, years apart. The first time I heard the voice it said my name and my friend heard it as well. It was just us inside their apartment. Instantly as soon as we heard it, it sent a chill through our bodies with an intense “primal” fear and we both started freaking out. I asked him what he heard and he confirmed with me that it was my name. The second time I heard this voice I had went to a different friends house for a campfire and had just told him about the voice that said my name. (probably not the first time I had told him)
We go outside to meet his friend and chill by the fire, and some time passes and we were all sharing a joint closing up the night when suddenly I hear this same voice speak again except this time it said my friend’s name. Instantly we both start losing our shit and the Deja vu like chill and “primal” fear returned. His friend who was right next to us when this happened didn’t hear anything and was clueless as to why we were acting how we were. It sounds like a whisper but it was loud. It was definitely the same voice both times. Does anyone have any experiences with an audible voice that others heard as well?


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 4h ago

Frustration Friday

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White Elephant by Emils Salmins. A play upon the Buddhist proverb of the Blind Men and the Elephant, this iteration making a statement on the lumbering and perhaps inept nature of forces greater than ourselves. "Bottoms up!"

This weekly post was inspired to give the community a place to vent and share common frustrations we find in our lives. If you have more to share on this topic than what would fit in a single comment please feel free to make a separate post! Are you finding conflict with your care-team? Are the medications you're on making life impossible? Have you lost your 3rd job this year because the voices cause you to act oddly around your peers? Are you finding everyone in your life has turned their back on you now that you've fallen into a discriminated category of "unsafe" or "mentally unwell" person? Have you attempted to get your close family and friends to engage in VCVC with you, instead finding they cannot offer you the first nicety?

Feel free to let the world know of your survived abuses, both direct (physical violence) and indirect (neglect or exclusion through social maneuverings) in this post. Everyone's welcome to commiserate and offer paralleling stories of received harm and how they carried on.


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 10h ago

THEORY

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I'm just explaining how my voices interact with me. As you can see in the picture, theres many layers to how they communicate. The main people interacting with me are dead people sometimes I catch an angels voice but for the most part its ancestors. And at the bottom theres an image in how they rotate during the day. So two people are assigned at the eyes, meaning they see what I see (basically what I sense). They two pairs of eyes look and witnessing my life and explaining what they see or sense to the closed eyes. The closed eyes represent their state. They cant see are in the dark, they can sense things like my mood or if I'm interacting with someone else. Let me know if you have other questions!


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 21h ago

The real cause of schizophrenia

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Read to find out living proof of the real cause of schizophrenia and the type of person who can help


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

The Dream

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Once a child in my youth I was a bed wetter, night terrors even laying there under a blanket listening to this demon hovering over me pressing my chest I couldn’t breath, this happen several times I hardly slept at all just trying to understand why these things are happening, I was a little older I was sleeping at my brother house in the floor that night I dreamt of what was to come to me, I heard this language kind of like Spanish and Jewish together in tongues, I woke up to brother mom screaming and praying, I finally got up she said Justin” a demon just touched you on your head, I wasn’t to sure of it because I felt fine but I also felt my skin crawl she was crying, I have been in terrifying events that would leave your eyes wide open in you wouldn’t never Believe this story but it’s true, this night was different I was getting used to the darkness the fear I felt fine as I went to church like mom said that same night, I fell asleep but in my sleep I felt like I had headphones on or a shield over my face and body, I heard gnashing of teeth and wailing i tried to wake up but I only faded back into reality with sweat and steam coming off my skin, I saw a figure by the wall it wiped three smudge marks on the wall, I past out when I woke back up I was puzzled, why did a child like me expect to ever be the same after that dream I just will never stop seeing and hearing it. True story


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

How psychosis leave

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r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

Voice of Isolation

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The voices are familiar to see this come back to do what was spoken, there is always a last minute talk with the one that says it will be ok, it is sickening to know the sacrifices have all been set in stone, I just shake my head no”.. no”. It’s entertaining to watch as time just ticks away, reminding me to never stop counting to never hesitate to move at the certain times being a eye sore to the pigs and feather to the wind, you will be ok this voice reminded me, survive is a must to some it is just a way of life, like a puppet with a mask of many lies and betrayal, it is business to count first and never ask questions, assume the target is affirmed, but some how it can’t fulfill the expectations of what has stored upon the face of the voices , now I can see” distance in time is a good place to be when you have no where to go, it’s like taking you second after second breaking your way of thinking breaking the emotions that makes you a human being, being there with darkness in these block walls move red they spin on the ceiling like a drain devouring what’s left of your sanity. This is true. Justin terry hicks age 33 just remember who you are.


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

Situation

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Please forgive me if this post Is a little scattered, I'm finding it quite difficult to focus these days.

*I've posted similar stuff here before, but I'm going to keep doing as this shit is ongoing and I'm not holding it in anymore.

My mother is an energy vampire and oscillates between this child like persona and this old haggered witch. I don't know much about possession, etc but the word seems apt. My "mother" is not herself anymore. She is no longer the same person she used to be, and not in a good way.

Whenever I feel "good" she tries to disrupt me and I feel down again afterwards. She is scum of the earth, or whatever is attached to her is. She has treated me like a punching bag and a tool for her happiness since I was a child. She has shut me down since I was a child. Disrupting my accomplishments and deterring me from doing my best.

I'm currently in a situation where I feel insanely trapped. I'm an adult living living at home and have faced long-term unemployment. To add to this my health is not great right now, and I feel so old for my years.

I had a dream where a small hobbit of a reptile appeared as her in a dream and was limping towards me, calling for my affection. I hugged her/it and it grew in size and began berating me to steal more energy from me.

She has also tired to seduce my several times treating me like her partner. It's sick! This hasn't happened in a long time, but has in the past.

She is keeping me in this situation and keeping me tied to her somehow. I need to break free from her. I was travelling once, I left the country and as soon as I landed, she had no idea that I had left, immediate texts and phones calls despite not talking to her for sometime.

A small cat has started coming round to the house for a while now, about a year, and I was travelling for some time. Before I left the cat was in good health, I return and the cat is covered in grey hairs and seems to have aged at an exacerbated rate.

I've had some very strange experiences and occurrences in my life and in dreams these past few years. I underwent a spiritual attack that lasted 5 days a 2 years ago, whilst my "Mother" and her partner where in the house. My life has not been the same since. During what literally felt like a spiritual r*pe where my head felt like a chest of drawers being raided for an extended period of time, I heard a witch of a voice scream "make him simple!" and my mind has felt suppressed ever since. I've also had a complete personality change. I remember my life before, but I'm not the same.

Due to these occurrences it makes it very hard for me to focus and stay on task, but I'm able to fight it. Even now whilst writing this post I feel confused and as if I'm being held back from speaking my truth.

Each time I try to do something to improve my life, something goes wrong. I'm trying to work on projects and do things that will improve my life and I feel this insane resistance each time I do. I heard a male voice whilst I was working on something say "You can't stop him."

I saw the words "Hurry" flash hypnagogic-ally in my vision during the time I was planning some projects as well, whilst sleeping.

When I do something a voice will "Done it" as if it made me do something.

I heard this voice whisper "Sleep" a number of times also.

A voice keeps saying "Sorry" too.

My diet and lifestyle is usually healthy and I was a very active person before. I now find myself eating a lot of beef, and dairy. Something I would never usually do. I heard a female voice say "I need him!!" as if she was being dragged away, and all of a sudden these cravings are gone?

I seen a fat female demon? In my dream taunting me telling me to eat bacon and cream? Despite those things never usually being part of my diet. Wtf?

I've had many dreams in my past where I'm my younger self being driven around by people showing up as old friends.

I've had dreams where I was trying to escape my situation and I was being dragged back to be something I don't want to be. Men in cars blocking my exits and escape, people pulling me back. Something very weird is going on in my life and probably has been going on for a very long time.

I've heard and seen crazy things during sleep paralysis. A voice telling me to choose "Egypt" or "Babylon".

I had a dream recently where these very tall black demons where sat around me at a table. I appeared as a child and they where speaking, they said my name, and afterwards said "He'll do it." or "He'll go."

I've had dreams where I've seen covens of witches flying around. Had dreams or visions where I've seen this witch being sprayed with water as if being cleaned.

I woke up one time whilst people where "having a conversation in my head". There was silence as if a question had been asked and the reply was "Lemuria"? and all I heard was these banshee like screams. "No!!!!!!"

I've heard a voice say "They're still protecting him and he's hell bent!"

I've seen these demons with glowing yellow eyes in my dreams tell me that "They loved eating their own." and that they can't wait to eat me...

I had a dream whilst I moved out last year and my mother was speaking to me whist a man was behind her and she was basically telling me to "come back home". She was being used like a puppet by the man behind her.

Real life, not a dream... Whilst going to the supermarket some time ago I was making my way back home and the journey back was lined with men in backpacks all on the phone standing at consecutive bus-stops (I know I sound crazy... If the rest of the post hasn't already made you think that, lol). This is a strange occurrence as my area is usually very quiet. One of these men tried to stop me before I came to my house and said "Do you drive yet?". I said "What?" and he was flustered. This same man was yelling "Help" on my street a couple of weeks prior. Again, very unusual for my area.

I've woken up and heard voices telling me to plant b*mbs. Saying profane things such as "Public Masturb**ion" and other stange thing like that.

There are English people involved, Americans involved. Something strange is happening in my life.

Even whilst I'm travelling I'll have the most strangest experiences. Being followed, etc. There's so much weird fucking shit.


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

Theory Thursday

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Mercurius Trismegistus by Jean-Louis Durant. A Hellenistic figure responsible for merging Greek and Egyptian mythos, revered in his time for his wisdom of the relationship between the material and the spiritual. I.e. mysticism favoring the inner experience.

Share your theory on your voices, what do you believe them to be? If you have an extended share feel free to make a separate post on your beliefs. Theories do not need to be limited to your own experience and can be speculative on the broader phenomenon.

For instance you're welcome to share that you simply feel your voices are angels, demons, djinn, aliens, some iteration of government surveillance, or manifestations of the collective panpsychic universe... even sea peoples if that is your take on things! Broader theories some older experiencers relate to are economies of abuse and how limiting and external states of mind filter down through society onto vulnerable individuals. What are your ideas, what do your voices say about themselves?

As with everything in the HVN this all needs to be framed as your theories, you're welcome to use hyperlinks to Wikipedia articles or studies on voice hearing populations. 5-28% of the UK report this phenomenon, other studies put these estimates significantly higher. Many take the perspective that all people hear voices and it is a matter of personal fluency that differentiates those that report this experience and those that don't. You should include anything that helps you express your views. Again, express this as your views and less of what it clearly is and what others ought believe.

What is your theory on this experience?


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

Split Personality

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r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

Turning the voices off.

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r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

Hearing Voices

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I've been hearing voices since day 1 and I was just wondering how to get rid of them. Their hurting me.


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

Between creativity and stability

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r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 1d ago

To medicate or not?

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I have had psychosis since November of last year and have been dealing with what I believe are spirit guides/angels guiding me through life but also making me do certain tasks in the name of ‘growth’.

It’s been a pretty rough ride and I’ve been offered medication but I’m reluctant to take it because I’ve gotten so used to the company that the ‘silence’ or the prospect of it makes me feel really sad.

Has anyone else chosen not to medicate so that they can spend more time with their ‘voices’?

It’s probably not that healthy - but I don’t even know if I should be seeing it as an illness or a ‘spiritual awakening.’

Any advice or kind words much appreciated!


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 2d ago

Non-physical beings.

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I speak to 5x's non-physical beings daily for the last 7years. Anyone else here have the same or similar experience?


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 2d ago

What Helps Me - Wednesday

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Hercules Slaying the Lernean Hydra by Jan Muller/Adriaen de Vries. An easily overlayed metaphor for vanquishing harassing (evil) voices.

Feel free to share your wellness methods with the community. Is there a diet that seems to make an impact for you, a particular routine, or self-improvement strategy that's made a turnaround in your struggles? Was there a book that made an impact in your journey, a creative outlet, or a medication you feel strongly helped or hurt you? What's been working for you and what have you tried that wasn't working for you? Do you have any role models (other experiencers) who've lended you methods that lead to success through their lived example?

Some example frameworks towards wellness are the books by Jerry Marzinsky, or the books by Jordan Peterson. Both of these authors are accomplished people who also report enduring the phenomena reported here. Additionally, there's the 12 step process seen over at r/PositiveTI. Do you know of any other prominent people who have been touched by this affliction? Does a certain diet help, wearing a certain color, taking a shower every day make a difference? What have you seen and what has worked for you?

Please do not tell others what to believe or do.


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 2d ago

Light sky

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r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 2d ago

I've Heard Voices In My Head 🙏 I've Been Thinking About What Happened In the Year Of 2020 🙏

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r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 2d ago

Why me ears are moving when I heard a noise meaby is the psychosis the stress or the medicaition

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r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 2d ago

A hateful voice wakes me up in the morning

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The past two and a half years I changed careers. At the beginning I was horribly abused at the job (coursing, throwing things at me etc). That is when this phenomenon started.

I would wake up in the morning by my alarm clock. But, the first thing I'd hear would not be the sound of my alarm but a violent voice yelling at me. So I'd wake up very very scared and my heart pounding.

At the beginning the voice would tell me I'm worthless, useless etc. Then it started telling me to die, or that it wasn't worth getting off the bed. This morning the voice told me that the word had come to it's end. Interesting enough, I am currently unemployed and I have my first interview in ages tomorrow, so I was probably stressing about that.

How did I feel about hearing the word had ended?

  1. I panicked,

  2. I felt sorry for myself for not being awake to experience the end.

  3. I felt sorry for myself for being so useless that the world had ended and I hadn't done shit with my life.

  4. I realised that this was probably just the voice

  5. I wondered if I can trust the voice and whether I was in purgatory and how I'd know the difference

  6. I called out for my partner to see if we're both in purgatory

  7. Realised that we are probably still alive

It's messing up with my head! The voice is not there every day and I had long breaks not hearing it. But the message obviously gets worse and worse

Do other people have a similar experience? And if you do, are you diagnosed with a mental health disorder?


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 3d ago

Schizophrenia?

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Do other people see videos and photos talking to them and the voices? And then their own videos look and sound different and has their lips moving talking to the voices? Or is it just me?


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 3d ago

New interview! Hearing Voices, Schizophrenia & the Lindsay Clancy Case | Jerry Marzinsky & Judy Gregerson

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Lindsay Clancy, a mother of three, was diagnosed with postpartum psychosis. She says a male voice told her, over and over, to kill herself and her three kids. She is now accused of killing them and is still awaiting a second trial.

Conventional psychiatry would call this an auditory hallucination. Is that the case?

I interviewed two guests who have spent years working with those who hear voices:

Jerry Marzinsky, a retired psychotherapist with 35+ years of experience. He worked with psychotic patients in some of the largest institutions for the criminally insane in the U.S. and co-wrote "An Amazing Journey into the Psychotic Mind."

Judy Gregerson, who endured four voices tormenting her day and night. She was diagnosed with schizophrenia and says she found complete, lasting freedom.

Both draw on their personal experiences and offer support to anyone living with this today.

Watch the full interview: https://youtu.be/V7Bxh9b1-pU


r/HearingVoicesNetwork • • 3d ago

Twos Day Tuesday

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The Two of Staffs, Pentacles, Swords, and Cups from the iconic Rider–Waite Tarot deck.

In the spirit of "twos" and community building, share anecdotes of how you've interacted with another experiencer, voice hearer, internal personality, or phenomena of your mind. You're welcome to make your own separate post on this topic if you feel you'd have more to share.

How did this other individual impact your views? Did they show you something you otherwise didn't know, or did they send you on a wild goose chase? Did they have a name (please don't name other reddit users disparagingly, instead this is a great opportunity to commend your fellow experiencers!), did they share a common belief with you?

How has this singular "other" made a difference in your journey? Take this as an opportunity to share with the rest of the community as much as you'd care to about this separate mind and its impact on yours.