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Kieren Briggs, Toby Greene, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Lachie Whitfield.

Over 1,000 games of AFL experience out the door.

How are we feeling?

It's all about getting picks to cover a bid for Ethan Matthews.

1. The value of pick 7 is 1644 points. -10% is deducted because giants finished 11-17, = 1480.

2. Trading out Whitfield got them means picks 25 and 26 are worth 1485. Having pick 28 provides some redundancy if a bid comes later.

If Matthews is bid on higher than pick 7 the giants can accumulate a debt for their first round pick next season - when the pick is worth less because there are so many Tassie picks.

The giants are able to take a deficit into next season and bidding picks 25 and 26, equivalent to pick 4.

That critically means the swans if they bid at pick 6 are covered.

So in totality Matthews will almost certainly be a giant draftee.

In totality:

Giants lose:

Whitfield (32 yo concussion issues), picks 31 and 50

Giants gain:

Top 10 draft player, 2028 3rd rounder

My best guess is that the we are hoping to use their top pick (pick ~9) then use picks in the 20s to match a later bid for Ethan Matthews (who is projected to go roughly at pick 10).

Combined with an acknowledgement that we couldn't contend for a flag in the next 3 seasons with our previous list so anyone nearing the end of the road was moved on

I get he is popular with the players allegedly etc but bro it’s so hard to invest your care and attention every season with little to no improvement. I want to enjoy watching again but every week it’s the same thing.

I don’t understand why we won’t just make the change it’s clearly not working.

For most of this clubs history we have been every players last choice, a school to build their tools to desperately leave for showtime crowds and big money offers. Now we have slowly built into the next stage of the cycle where we can be a little picky without fear of total collapse. The next generation is in place and primed to takeover, our best 22 without our departees is still awsome then add Mathews into the mix sheeeesh! The culture this club has put in place ensured that whoever plays for us has to be pushed out the door when the unfortunate time comes.

No club seems keen on him and GWS have lost Hogan. Thoughts?

Who do we think is getting this new prestigious number next year?

We are...still good...right?

I think we are a genuine top 4/6 chance if our entire list stays relatively fit next year. However, what are the odds that finally Buckley, Taylor, Daniels etc all stay fit when they never do.

Also this ruckman situation is staggering. Madden is both unathletic and can't win a hit out from what I've seen. The fact that we've traded out Briggs and are not heavily linked to anyone else (correct me) is crazy. Thoughts on Leek Aleer in the ruck?

The other part of the ground I'm worried about is key forwards. I'm happy to move hogan and stringer on but Cadman, GRU, Riccardi and Brown is unconvincing. Cadman can easily go missing when he's the no 1 forward, GRU is not that polished and Riccardi is frustratingly inconsistent.

Brisbane the beneficiaries again

The last 4 minutes where Freo thought they had it won, then Ashcroft said "hold my beer" reminds me exactly like the 2016 prelim against the dogs. We were up with 5 minutes to go, and the giants players started to over celebrate, and then the Bont went bizerk.

But next year it is!... The older players have stepped aside and the kids are ready for the big big flag!

Is Kingers cooking up a plan? Alarm bells were ringing when we let Briggs go, and now our back up ruck could be out the door? I don’t see Madden and Aleer as a reliable pair (not yet anyway)

Wow Clarry lowkey cleaned up in the Brownlow. 23 votes, ahead of JHF, Dawson and NWM. Our next best was Callaghan and Greene with 10 which is surprising. I thought the gap would be a lot closer especially with Callaghan

Hello Giants fans,

I’m currently building a AFL draft game (kind of like Dan Does Footy's draft videos) and I need your help getting realistic player ratings and positions for the Giants. My ball knowledge outside my club is a bit stinky and I don't trust the media and stats, so I am going directly to the fans. I have made a form (linked at the end of the post) so you guys can rate the players and explain why. I need all responses to be serious (no rating bad players highly as a joke), unbiased and based on the following factors.

1. Player ratings must be a mix of this season and all time greatness.

-Example: Will Ashcroft would be higher rated than Patrick Cripps since Will Ashcroft is just in another level from Cripps, this season. However, this doesn't apply to the Max Gawn vs Luke Jackson debate. Luke Jackson has been better this season sure, but only just, whereas Gawn has been this elite for a long time and only a little worse than Jackson. Gawn would be higher rated.

Another way of understanding this criteria could be thinking if Bont or Daicos became extremely shit next season. It wouldn't feel right rating them the same as VFL players. Therefore, you would rate them somewhere in the middle of elite and low.

1. Do not rate players based on potential.

2. Players who are injury affected/haven't found a good run of games are to be rated from the last time they were fit. This does not apply to old/retiring players.

-Example: Sam Darcy would be rated on previous season form and since he will likely return to that form when he is fit, but this logic wouldn't apply to Adam Treloar since despite being injured, we are aware he is not as good as he was when last fit.

1. Rate players on their role.

-Example: Oisin Mullin and Bailey Smith would be rated based on their role, despite being the same position. Mullin would be rated on tagging, Baz would be rated on ball use.

1. Not just stats.

-Example: Ben King is a great goalscorer, sure. But it is fair to say his other skills in AFL are limited. If you look at players who kick 0.2-0.5 goals a game less than him, they usually contribute to more aspects of the game. Archie Roberts gets the ball a lot, but he is worse user than Bont or Dawson despite more getting more touches.

How the ratings works

The game uses a 50 to 96 scale (FIFA/NBA style).

• 90–96: The competition's absolute elite. The top 10 mids, and top 3-4 forwards and defenders. (Bont, Daicos, Butters).
• 85–89: All Australian Contenders/Great players (Bolton, Dunkley, Allir).
• 75–84: Solid best 22 players who do their job week in, week out and has a spot in their teams locked in but they aren't the elite few (Jagga, Freijah, Sparrow).
• 65–74: Players fighting for spots 20-23 or rotating through the VFL/SANFL/WAFL (Davidson, Maginess, Knevitt).
• 50–64: Players who barely play, if at all.

What's in the form

For each player on the list, it's just:

1. Overall Rating (50–96)
2. Positions they can play at a high level: KF, SF (small forward), HF, W, M, DM (defensive midfielder/tagger), R, BR (backup ruck), HB, SD (small defender), KD.
3. Notes / Rationale: Completely optional if you want to justify any spicy takes or show appreciation for a player.

Form link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdH07RDb4nNL3OZFFyGqqS1ZGASZV0cvaiY9LIU68qm5p3GQw/viewform?usp=dialog

By completing this form, you are supporting a young aspiring engineer, with a love for footy and his footy obsessed mate who knows nothing about computer science but is happy to help.

Enough is enough

Interesting article attached…

Farewell great man.

Ragnar Lothbrok, Sparrow and special guest Yash gather to commiserate, reflect on the legacy, and look forward to the post Toby Greene era.

Let's heal together and Never Surrender