r/Fauxmoi • • 17h ago

PUBLISH MOI Sally Rooney says she can no longer sell books in UK due to Palestine Action support. Irish writer of Normal People says she can no longer receive royalties from British sales and she cancelled UK trip due to fear of arrest.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/oct/14/sally-rooney-says-she-can-no-longer-sell-books-in-the-uk-because-of-palestine-action-support?CMP=share_btn_url
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u/pinegreenscent 16h ago

If the UKs descent into Israeli fascism means Scotland and Wales seceed and Ireland reunifies this may be the best self sabotage of all time

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u/Ok-Call-4805 16h ago

As someone in the north of Ireland, I love to see it. We need to break the shackles with the UK for good.

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u/horrorhxe 16h ago

Hopefully in our lifetime a chara 💚

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u/fullblownplaids 16h ago

Unfortunately half of you up there feel differently 

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u/TheAcrithrope 10h ago

More than half.

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u/AliceInMidtjylland 6h ago

Last I checked Sein Fein was the majority party.

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u/No-Strawberry-9801 9h ago

As I Scot I agree with you.

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u/TheAcrithrope 10h ago

You can. Just vote to leave.

Half your population or above votes to leave, and you're gone. Just like that.

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u/Ok-Call-4805 10h ago

If only it were that simple

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u/TheAcrithrope 10h ago

It is that simple, the only hitch is that more than half of your country wants to remain.

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u/Ok-Call-4805 10h ago

Our freedom is dependent on the British government deciding to let us vote for it, and Andy Burnham has said that it's off the table

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u/No-Strawberry-9801 9h ago

And what’s mad is it’s the English government that puts the kibosh on any talk of reunification of Ireland or independence for Scotland or Wales. When 3/4 of a union wants to dead it, it should be the majority rule. We have 3 nationalist democratically elected parties in government but still the British ( English) govt say no, it’s hardly a democracy for the rest of the Union

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u/TheAcrithrope 9h ago

England doesn't have a government, Scotland and Wales do. The "English" government is the UK government.

And the so called "English government" does not control independence for Northern Ireland, as it does with Wales and Scotland.

Even though the government controls the ability for an independence referendum in Wales and Scotland, saying 3/4s of the union want independence is disingenuous given that Scotland voted to remain, Wales has never had a majority, and Northern Ireland are free to vote to reunify whenever they please but have also never had a majority in favour of independence...

Back to the "English government" comment, perhaps you're confusing the government for English because the government has a majority English membership, given that England makes up the vast majority of the population (84%)...

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u/TheAcrithrope 10h ago edited 8h ago

Do you think you're Scottish? You said you were from "the north of Ireland" (Northern Ireland).

Andy Burnham can say whatever he likes and it won't matter a jot since he has neither the power to call a referendum nor the ability to veto one, not that it would mean much if he could, given most wish to remain.

This is all in the GFA.

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u/Ok-Call-4805 6m ago

You've obviously never dealt with the British government if you think they can be trusted

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u/Alive_Sun5590 7h ago

lol, good luck being a functioning country with such a tiny economy.

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u/Ok-Call-4805 7h ago

Ireland actually has a surplus of money at the minute. We'll be fine

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u/Alive_Sun5590 7h ago

lol, I meant Scotland

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u/brandnewlibbyday radiate fresh pussy growing in the meadow 16h ago

Scotland and Wales have the best PR team ever some of the worst most evil colonists ever were Scottish or Welsh

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u/NovelLandscape7862 16h ago

I thought that honor was reserved for the Dutch.

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u/Independent-Nobody43 woman externalizing rage 15h ago edited 15h ago

Best PR definitely goes to the Austrians. They convinced the world that Hitler was German and Beethoven was Austrian. But most evil colonists? I think Belgium is up there. Leopold alone made sure of that.

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u/moonlight-librarian 15h ago

As a Hungarian we know how horrible the Austrians were.

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u/Thelatestweirdo 15h ago

Ah, but that is the fault of the Dutch too, if they had been better overlords of Belgium, the Belgians wouldn't have rebelled and Leopold I would have just remained as Queen Victoria's doting uncle/widower of her cousin and Leopold II wouldn't exist

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u/camillesjesuscomplex I still don’t know her 10h ago

Italy’s colonies were also very brutal. Belgium too

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u/Gullible_East_9545 i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 14h ago

As if Mozart wasn't enough

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u/She_Said__That_ FUCK ICE FREE PALESTINE CRASH INTO ME 3h ago

I misread that as Australians and was like, 😳 for a split second

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u/actuallywaffles they're perfect for each other (derogatory) 15h ago

The Dutch have to be thankful that people only remember the British East India Company and totally forget about the Dutch version.

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u/LiluLay 15h ago

As a Dutch Indo person, I have had to educate an alarming amount of people about this. It’s completely unknown amongst Dutch descended Americans. They always question how such brown people can be Dutch. It’s wildly racist, actually.

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u/hesitantelian if you add testicles, that's extra 15h ago

I'm half dutch (mom's from Suriname) and was always confused at how little my classmates in high school actually knew about colonialism. I was taught about it from a very young age because of my heritage, only to find out later that a lot of people didn't even know the kinds of atrocities that were committed during colonial times. Weird stuff.

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u/Southern_Contract493 13h ago

I dated a guy whose mom was a first gen Canadian (both parents born in the Netherlands); when we went on a trip to somewhere with humidity her hair tripled in size and she would say that she probably has some "black genes" in there (but would use worse language).

But no one had questioned why or what the hell that would mean for her family's history until I did. Wild to me.

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u/LiluLay 9h ago

In my Dutch Indo family, the Japanese were the maligned, not the Dutch. My maternal grandparents were interned in the Japanese implemented concentration camps in Indonesia during wwii. Brutal, brutal stuff they were so lucky to survive. Which is somehow very obscure knowledge along with Dutch presence in Indonesia at all, apparently.

How the Dutch have been able to escape their legacy of colonial atrocities is beyond me. In my family it’s because they had enough Dutch blood or a Dutch family name enabling them to leave Indonesia for Europe after liberation from the camps.

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u/hesitantelian if you add testicles, that's extra 8h ago

For what it's worth, I do think it's getting better (at least in the Netherlands) as our schools are starting to teach more about it and there seems to be more attention in general for our colonial past, but we have a long way to go. I think a lot of people have a hard time accepting that the country profited from colonialism for a very long time. It's seen as ancient history, but the Dutch army was committing atrocities in Indonesia well into the 20th century. I hope that recent developments like the King's speech about how the Royal family has profited off of colonialism will bring more attention to our history with this subject.

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u/Thrillhol 3h ago

Oh hey my Dutch maternal grandfather and his immediate family were in camps in Indonesia during WW2

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u/actuallywaffles they're perfect for each other (derogatory) 15h ago

Yeah, way too many Americans only know the Netherlands as Weed, Tulips, and Scooter. They cannot imagine Dutch history being as dark as it actually is.

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u/anotherDutchdude 13h ago

Scooter, the band? Are they known to be Dutch?

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u/actuallywaffles they're perfect for each other (derogatory) 12h ago

DJ Scooter I thought was Dutch but apparently he's German. I think I'm just confusing him cause of the song with Joost

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u/teruhana these white activities you participate in 6h ago

Dutch history, Dutch present. I remember how sick I was when I learned about Zwarte Piet.

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u/hagbound 16h ago

What does that have to do with them seceding though?

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u/Anok-Phos 15h ago

It's just like firefighting. The fire is a problem, sure, but the wood was undeniably complicit. Nobody should put out fires without acknowledging this fact.

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u/ObvioussPlasticc 14h ago

Why does it bother you that this was pointed out?

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u/hagbound 14h ago

I don’t know that it bothered me? I asked what Scotland & Wales having evil colonizers has to do with the original comment (which is about them seceding) - like what is the point they’re trying to make as it pertains to their independence from the UK. It just seems like two different conversations to me.

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u/BlankBlanny will not shut the fuck up about issues (complimentary) 3h ago

This is the most "So you hate waffles?" conversation I've seen in a while, yeah.

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u/sir_thrillho 12h ago

I always say this.

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u/Turnip-for-the-books 15h ago

I do t think anyone doubts that but we are talking about today

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u/KenBisky11 15h ago

What does that have to do with anything at all? That was hundreds of years ago?

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u/blakppuch 11h ago

Are you fr?

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u/KenBisky11 10h ago

Yes? Original comment mentioned the UK might fall apart and Ireland unifies and then that commenter randomly mentions some colonials were Scottish and Welsh from back in the day. Deadass what the hell does that have to do with anything?

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u/ArticQimmiq 7h ago

You can be both a victim and an oppressor at the same time 🤷‍♀️ i would also point out that, in this case, evil Scotsmen or Welshmen doesn’t mean the nation is systematically problematic.

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u/TheAcrithrope 6h ago

They can be, but aren't. Scotland joined the Union willingly and weren't oppressed (anymore so than anybody else, at least), whilst Wales was incorporated under the Welsh dynastic family, the Tudors.

English people were just as oppressed as their Scottish and Welsh neighbours by their respective ruling class, but nobody uses that logic for some reason...

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u/Formal_Chance_4266 canonically from boston 15h ago

I must have a problem because everytime I read the word Sabotage the Beastie Boys sonh starts playing in my head but this time I was well happy with it....anyway as an Irish person I've been WAITING

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u/fishchop 16h ago

Yeah this is going to be an even worse own goal than Brexit lol

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u/Kersenn 7h ago

It feels like several European countries are falling into fascism following the US's example, but, not to jinx it, now it seems likely the US is going to swing back hard to the left. This is like exactly what happened before WW2... the nazis biggest inspiration was the US after all. I really hope history isn't going to repeat that part

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u/TheAcrithrope 10h ago

This wouldn't be the self sabotage you think it is. There's a reason nobody really has a plan for independence except for chanting about freedom.

When last this topic was talked over, a surprising amount of Scots and Irish thought they'd get a sweetheart deal where pensions remained paid and debts were wiped clean.

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u/BT4US 16h ago

What is going on in the UK, this is disgusting. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

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u/RoySlaterr 2h ago

Well, the govt recently said Israel are performing ethnic cleansing & said we support Free Palestine protests, just don't needlessly reference the ONE that's a terrorist organisation.

Anyone referencing Palestine Action is doing it on purpose to get arrested (to prove a separate point). PA is far from the only way to show support for Palestine.

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u/athaluain 16h ago

Her books are vastly overrated. There have been much better Irish writers over the years.

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u/BeardedAvenger Club Penguin Times official aura reader 16h ago

That's still no reason for what's currently happening with her.

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u/kissingkiwis 15h ago

That has absolutely nothing to do with anything

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u/OneGlove336 16h ago

What does that have to do with anything?

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u/athaluain 15h ago

She seems to have plenty of fans on here. I wonder if any of them have actually read her books?

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u/v-punen 15h ago

She’s very popular, of course people read her work.

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u/athaluain 14h ago

Of course people read her books. I was just wondering if the people on here have read them.

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u/v-punen 13h ago

Well, personally I’ve read Normal people in one sitting. For example.

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u/CheesecakeExpress 9h ago

You know, even if people here haven’t read her books, they can still have an opinion on the interaction of politics and the arts. Or Palestine. Or the way certain things are legally prohibited when others aren’t. Free speech. The law etc..

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u/chonkykais16 13h ago

Should all “overrated” writers have their works suppressed or should this honour be reserved for the ones you dislike, specifically?

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u/bioticspacewizard Vulgar, horny, and heartwarming? Call me seated. 15h ago

Taste is subjective. I love her books.

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u/athaluain 15h ago

True, but I never said her books weren’t good I just said that she’s overrated. She not in the same category as James Joyce or Edna O’Brian.

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u/noitsroro 14h ago

is the ghost of james joyce being denied royalties for its posthumous support of palestine

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u/Resentful-user 15h ago

Author Not As Good As Joyce Shock

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u/BT4US 16h ago

I was referring to the UK supporting genocide but ok

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u/rask0ln 15h ago

her political stance and the quality of her books are two different things 😭

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u/JoshSidekick Temu Lex Luthor 12h ago

Well James Joyce won't be touring the UK either.

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u/athaluain 12h ago

Ah shucks that’s a shame. I was so looking forward to a Soirée with him.

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u/amandathelibrarian oat milk chugging bisexual 15h ago

Speak for yourself. I love her books and think they are properly rated.

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u/unsynchedmango 14h ago

I really liked normal people but I guess the main characters are both said to be smart so maybe that's where she lost you

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u/athaluain 13h ago

If you read my other comment I said that I didn’t say that her books weren’t good I just said I found her overrated. For your information I have read all of her work not like some people who
Only read Normal People as everyone was reading it at one time. It was very trendy.

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u/unsynchedmango 13h ago

Who asked bro see a doctor

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u/Zardotab 9h ago

By that logic we can censor Donald due to his poor sentence structure.

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u/Kiwi-vee I'm so pissed off immediately 16h ago

Yet, JKR can use her money to lobby anti-trans laws... 😒

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u/Prestigious_Two6041 16h ago

unfortunately i don't see a contradiction there

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u/Catman_Ciggins 15h ago

I don't know why you're getting downvoted.

The golden rule when it comes to UK law is that there are some groups which are completely off limits, and other groups where it's pretty much open season. Zionists are in the former category while Palestinians, trans people, and immigrants are all in the latter.

It's confusing and disheartening to still, in the year 2026, see people expecting the British government to play fair. They've never once played fair in their entire blood-soaked history. This is a government that shoots Irish people--its own citizens--in the back for wanting civil rights. For Christ's sake.

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u/paolocase 16h ago

Not giving royalties to anyone is fucking theft but then again Britain exists because of theft.

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u/touslesmatins Marxmoi 12h ago

The whole situation in occupied Palestine is Britain's fault to begin with. They keep sucking

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u/TheAcrithrope 10h ago

Britain exists because of theft no more so than the rest of the world.

Do you think Britain was the only empire to exist? Even where empires never rose, tribes raided one another for resources.

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u/CemeteryHounds 15h ago

It's because the comment is ridiculous as a reply about being prevented from receiving royalties.

"Not being paid for what's sold is theft!"

"Yeah, but the books could still be sold."

Come on. Being technically true doesn't make it less silly.

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u/fullblownplaids 16h ago

Absolutely nuts. Israel controls the labour party.

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u/Jesskla 14h ago

They control all of the UK parties except the Greens, which is why there is great investment in smearing Zack Polanski & undermining the Green policies. The mainstream media is controlled by billionaires, labour are class traitors & are just red Tories (although they've been a disgrace since Blair), Russia is funding Reform & the Heritage Foundation is spending a lot of time & money on bringing the Christian nationalist movement to the UK. Not to mention Palantir & the NHS contracts & then JKR cementing the country as the ultimate TERF island. The islamphobia is at frightening levels too, with the hate crimes against Muslims or anyone perceived to be Muslim at dangerous levels, but mostly underreported by the media & unacknowledged by most politicians. Amnesty International released a report about this recently but as with everything else, it has mostly been ignored. The UK is an embarrassment, a cesspool of bigotry & kleptocracy. I hate it here.

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u/StuartWtf 13h ago

You forgot SNP and Plaid.

SNP have spoken against Israel and called for a free Palestine. Might not be the biggest party in Westminster but they do control one of the countries.

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u/Jesskla 8h ago

I wasn't sure about the SNP's current leadership tbh, but I did know about Plaid, that was my bad neglecting to mention them. Some of the Independents too, although Your Party fast became a shambolic mess. Corbyn & Zarah Sultana have been very outspoken respectively. Although Corbyn is pretty toothless when it comes to taking action... Honestly the UK is fucked, Wales Scotland & NI should have their independence at this point, this government is cementing a crushing future for anyone who isn't part of the wealthy elite & they are speed running the destruction of our civil rights.

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u/OverCategory6046 12h ago

Labour supports a two state solution.

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u/Asalth 11h ago

Which means nothing when you also sell weapon parts to Israel

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u/Bulky_Preparation768 4h ago

And yet never take any steps to actually promoting that vision

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u/OverCategory6046 4h ago

What do you want them to do? It's a foreign country, they have zero power over there.

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u/Few_Analyst_1179 women supporting women (Taylor’s version) 58m ago

did you not hear the selling weapon part?

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u/ZaryaBubbler Fauxmoila 1 12h ago

This shit became incredibly obvious when Corbyn was relentlessly smeared because he had the audacity to want to sit and talk to Palestinian leaders. Seems the Winston Churchill ideal of "jaw jaw, not war war" doesn't matter despite the far rights glorification of him

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u/Lillian_Crocodilian 9h ago

Corbyn wasn't perfect, but the claims of antisemitism against him were a shameful and surreal canard.

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u/Kavi0121 definitely you are not coming to our farm 13h ago

This is what real solidarity looks like, it's difficult and it has consequences

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u/Kavi0121 definitely you are not coming to our farm 13h ago

Meanwhile, your fave can't even post once on Instagram

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u/International_Ant953 13h ago

I guess it's time for me to buy some Sally Rooney books.

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u/LoveWineNotTheLabel 16h ago

But JKR is allowed to amass wealth at every corner and use it to fuel anti trans propaganda. This is absolute bullshit.

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u/sallyhectare 16h ago

That's because the UK government supports Rowling's anti-trans agenda. Persecuting trans people is not illegal, protesting Israel is.

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u/Outrageous-Slide-179 15h ago

Sorry fat thumb down voted first! All the up votes 

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u/ilir_kycb 16h ago

Just to reiterate: Western countries feel infinitely morally superior to the rest of the world and constantly lecture them on human rights.

Virtually everyone in these countries is firmly convinced that China, Russia, or Iran are the ultimate embodiment of evil compared to them. In their minds, there is a clear narrative of good (the West/NATO countries) versus evil (China, Russia, Iran).

Meanwhile, it is the West that is currently unconditionally supporting a genocide.

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u/kermeeed 15h ago

Its really crazy talking to mostly (but not only) white people in the west about anything in the world. There is almost no understanding of historical context. No mentions of Colonialism or slavery or anything perpetrated by European empires as a reason for things being the way they are. They refuse to look at the world as anything other than good guys and bad guys.

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u/ilir_kycb 14h ago

Well, the funny or sad thing about it is that the West (NATO countries) are very clearly the bad guys if you judge them honestly by their own standards.

The extent of the double standards and hypocrisy is simply beyond belief.

But as you said, the level of ignorance combined with an extreme (completely unfounded) confidence in one’s own opinion is enough to drive you crazy.

And I live among these people; it’s like being surrounded by crazy people who firmly believe the sky is green even though they look up at it every day. And anyone who tells them, “No, the sky is blue”, is regarded as a renegade heretic who has been seduced by evil, demonic forces.

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u/blodo_ 13h ago

The reckoning is hopefully coming. The media can try to manipulate perceptions of reality to keep people thinking that common stances like being anti Israel are not majority opinion, but eventually the silent majority that does hold this opinion will find itself very loud indeed.

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u/ilir_kycb 12h ago

Yeah, and then, just like with apartheid in South Africa, they'll pretend they've always been against it.

Systemically, absolutely nothing will change.

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u/OverCategory6046 12h ago

How are the West very clearly the bad guys?

The West isn't a unified block - there are many non Western countries that are engaged in way more horrifying shit than 90% of Western countries.

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u/ilir_kycb 12h ago edited 11h ago

Strictly speaking, I'm referring to the imperial core.

And it's not just about the history of individual countries; broadly speaking, they are an alliance of US puppet states. They act in concert to exploit and enslave the rest of the world, and they share a collective responsibility.

Imperialist appropriation in the world economy: Drain from the global South through unequal exchange, 1990–2015 - ScienceDirect

Unequal exchange theory posits that economic growth in the “advanced economies” of the global North relies on a large net appropriation of resources and labour from the global South, extracted through price differentials in international trade. Past attempts to estimate the scale and value of this drain have faced a number of conceptual and empirical limitations, and have been unable to capture the upstream resources and labour embodied in traded goods. Here we use environmental input-output data and footprint analysis to quantify the physical scale of net appropriation from the South in terms of embodied resources and labour over the period 1990 to 2015. We then represent the value of appropriated resources in terms of prevailing market prices. Our results show that in 2015 the North net appropriated from the South 12 billion tons of embodied raw material equivalents, 822 million hectares of embodied land, 21 exajoules of embodied energy, and 188 million person-years of embodied labour, worth $10.8 trillion in Northern prices – enough to end extreme poverty 70 times over. Over the whole period, drain from the South totalled $242 trillion (constant 2010 USD). This drain represents a significant windfall for the global North, equivalent to a quarter of Northern GDP. For comparison, we also report drain in global average prices. Using this method, we find that the South’s losses due to unequal exchange outstrip their total aid receipts over the period by a factor of 30. Our analysis confirms that unequal exchange is a significant driver of global inequality, uneven development, and ecological breakdown.

Unequal exchange of labour in the world economy | Nature Communications

Researchers have argued that wealthy nations rely on a large net appropriation of labour and resources from the rest of the world through unequal exchange in international trade and global commodity chains. Here we assess this empirically by measuring flows of embodied labour in the world economy from 1995–2021, accounting for skill levels, sectors and wages. We find that, in 2021, the economies of the global North net-appropriated 826 billion hours of embodied labour from the global South, across all skill levels and sectors. The wage value of this net-appropriated labour was equivalent to €16.9 trillion in Northern prices, accounting for skill level. This appropriation roughly doubles the labour that is available for Northern consumption but drains the South of productive capacity that could be used instead for local human needs and development. Unequal exchange is understood to be driven in part by systematic wage inequalities. We find Southern wages are 87–95% lower than Northern wages for work of equal skill. While Southern workers contribute 90% of the labour that powers the world economy, they receive only 21% of global income.

And that doesn't even take into account wars, coups, or puppet dictators installed by the West.

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u/kermeeed 13h ago

I find this so hard to articulate but its like the moment they find out something is bad in this world was done by a western country its just done. Like that individual acknowledged its bad so it must be over for the whole world.

Imperialism is bad but its not still happening. We got gay marriage in the last 15-20 years in some western countries so its always been there. Civil rights happened but like we did it, we're better and like rhe above its always been there.

But no understanding of the mechanisms that were able to wrest those things for us. And no acknowledgement of how we strip the world of those mechanisms.

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u/ilir_kycb 12h ago

A liberal is someone who opposes every war except the current war and supports all civil rights movements except the one that’s going on right now.

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u/rask0ln 15h ago

It's really strange to witness as someone who has more complex ethnical background (ukrainian/russian family and then anti-zionist jews from multiple european countries). The same people who will be like "this country's politics means all the citizens who haven't left the country 30 years ago should die" are then either supporting active genocide and/or lecturing about how we shouldn't generalise the entire popullation based on a few bad apples. 🫠 

Don't get me even started on how normalised it is for a non-jewish person to call me, a jew, an antisemite while downplaying actual antisemitism. 

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u/OverCategory6046 12h ago

>Meanwhile, it is the West that is currently unconditionally supporting a genocide.

Oh man, you might want to read up into which countries support the Rapid Support Force in Sudan, who are actively engaging in genocide, who supports the Myanmar civil war & genocide, who supports the Houthis and Hamas, etc. Russia is actively kidnapping children and committing mass atrocities in Ukraine. Myanmar is actively engaged in killing off the Rohingya and other ethnic groups.

The West is not innocent, but acting like China, Russia, Iran and the rest are innocent is disingenuous. The rest of the world is also capable (and does) of supporting genocide, civil war and other atrocities.

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u/camillesjesuscomplex I still don’t know her 10h ago

You missed the point

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u/OverCategory6046 10h ago

What's the point?

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u/ilir_kycb 11h ago

The West is not innocent, but acting like China, Russia, Iran and the rest are innocent is disingenuous. The rest of the world is also capable (and does) of supporting genocide, civil war and other atrocities.

Did you notice that I never wrote anything about innocence anywhere?

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u/CharlieComplete 12h ago

You seriously just put the Palestinian resistance in the same line as the RSF…smh

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u/MmmmMorphine 11h ago

Implictly equating Hamas with 'Palestinian resistance' helps Hamas claim it speaks for everyone, and helps its opponents pretend Palestinians have no legitimate political voice beyond Hamas.

Neither one a good thing

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u/OverCategory6046 11h ago

That's not what I said, is it?

They said it's "the West" that is currently unconditionally supporting a genocide - which is flat out incorrect. There are unfortunately many genocides and civil wars going on worldwide, supported by a wide range of countries.

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u/kermeeed 4h ago

They actually said people in the west feel morally superior to the world while unconditionally supporting a genocide. Not once did they say they were the only ones in the world supporting a genocide.

Cherry picking apart a comment so that you can maintain a moral high ground its so fucking pathetic.

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u/Fraggle_ninja 15h ago

I’ve never read her books. I’ll see if I can buy them off the Irish kobo site. 

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u/athaluain 13h ago

I Found her books in the charity shops.

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u/Shot_Election_8953 12h ago

Rooney is not only losing money because of this, she is, and has been, risking jail time because of her support for Palestine Action. That's a real hero.

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u/droobidoobidoo I am gay!!!! Gay gay gay gay 16h ago

Absolutely horrific!

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u/basicbong 16h ago

I thought UK was better than USA for giving into Israeli fascism

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u/Middle-Holiday8371 16h ago

Nope ! All the major political parties (except the Greens) have a “..Friends of Israel” which is basically our version of AIPAC :/

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u/basicbong 16h ago

It’s insane how one country (the only democracy lol) needs to coerce foreign politicians so blatantly

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u/Easy_Ease3396 12h ago

The reason it's the only "democracy"** in the Middle East is because the US/UK supports dictators that follow its foreign policy. When one of them democratically elects someone contrary to those interests, they get overthrown by the CIA

(** There's a lot of judicial backsliding as well as media corruption law violations that Netanyahu is on trial for)

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u/camillesjesuscomplex I still don’t know her 10h ago

The SNP don’t! And they’ve been in power in Scotland since 2007

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u/FantasyPls 16h ago

UK was the blueprint, they successfully lied about Corbyn being antisemitic and took him from being well loved to losing an election and getting booted out of Labour.

They're doing the same thing to Polanksy right now and he's Jewish himself!!!

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u/Alive_Sun5590 7h ago

Polanski. Not Polansky.

And Corbyn wasn't beloved, that's just silly.

And no one is saying Polanski is anti-semitic -they're saying the Green party has voted in an anti-semitic policy and Polanski didn't even bother to show up for the vote. Quite a leader.

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u/saoirsedonciaran 16h ago edited 16h ago

No. Just like AIPAC, Israel funds zionist politicians in Britain through a variety of under-handed and brazen financial support as well as propaganda smears that are propagated through their client journalists in the media. Case in point, the zionist Telegraph newspaper published fake quotes from an activist in the Green Party on the eve of a crucial by-election that they lost by a few percent just a few days ago. The paper also published an antisemitic and Islamophobic cartoon on the same week.

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u/Kidgorgeoushere Lol, and if I may, lmao 16h ago

Noooope. It’s very embedded here. Plus associations like Lawyers for Israel (a voluntary legal group that does hardcore lobbying and litigious action against boycotts/protest etc) do not let up.

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u/fishchop 16h ago

I hate those cunts. They made the NHS ban any symbols of solidarity with Palestine, so nurses and doctors and other health care workers who were wearing watermelon badges or MAP/ PCRF badges had to remove them during working hours or risk getting fired.

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u/Kidgorgeoushere Lol, and if I may, lmao 15h ago

I can’t share the extent of my true feelings unfortunately or I’ll be banned.

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u/fishchop 14h ago

I just don’t get how a legal advocacy group for a foreign country can be so brazen. Like imagine if we had a Lawyers for Malaysia or even a Lawyers for America going on every panel on the news and screaming, or wasting hours of court time or openly influencing policy. There would be an outcry!

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u/Kidgorgeoushere Lol, and if I may, lmao 13h ago

Indeed. But I suppose it’s easy to be brazen when you are so influential and successful in your endeavours.

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u/kermeeed 15h ago

Its weird to me that people dont see the western empire as one cohesive force.

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u/bambinoquinn 16h ago

The ireland/isreal Matches last week were really eye opening to me in regards to how compromised the UK has become in their coverage.

No one would have known anything had good local Irish journalists not reported things

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u/athaluain 13h ago

The Irish cricket team had no compunction playing the Afghans recently. Some other teams including the English ones refused. But then again the Afghans only treat women worse than animals. What they are doing to their women is a form of genicide.

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u/bambinoquinn 13h ago

The truth is, im irish, and i couldn't tell you a cricket match Ireland have played in the last 40 years. Honestly if you told me Ireland didn't have a cricket team, I could probably be convinced

Whereas the isreal match was huge news, mostly because lies were being reported constantly, but factual accurate reporting was being hidden.

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u/PurpleWhiteOut 12h ago

The UK handed palestine over to become israel in the first place

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u/666wife they're perfect for each other (derogatory) 12h ago

Who do you think was responsible for this mess in the first place? Who do you think carved up that land?

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u/Ok-Call-4805 16h ago

Nope. The UK basically wrote the handbook for most of history's bad guys. They're rarely on the right side.

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u/floovels 15h ago

0 days since the Brits were at it

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u/Alive_Sun5590 7h ago

Oh right, and every other country around the world are the good guys.

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u/Ok-Call-4805 7h ago

Not every one, but also definitely not the British

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u/Alive_Sun5590 7h ago

ok, tell me a country that is the good guys.

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u/georgemichaelsuprema 16h ago edited 14h ago

lol where do you think the Americans learnt imperialism from?

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u/MissusCrispyCole 13h ago

Most of Western Europe enjoys USA bashing online when the truth is they are equally bad. I’m so sick of their holier than thou attitude. They’ve forgotten they are the original flag bearers of aggressive imperialism.

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u/Caitlionator Sylvia Plath did not stick her head in an oven for this 15h ago

I don't know how anyone on the side of effectively banning books convinced themselves they're correct.

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u/idiosyncraticnaps 16h ago

Will this motivate publishing to finally start actively campaigning because Faber & Faber will be cross they've lost their biggest author?

Probably not.

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u/JOHN_BROWNS_BUSSY 12h ago

A repressive speech regime in a "liberal democracy"

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u/BookishHobbit my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 11h ago

So we’re basically banning books now. Yep. Great.

https://giphy.com/gifs/HGs9RCNBsJMDq82A9u

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u/JakobExMachina i’m a communist you idiot 14h ago

the shitty response to this in r/unitedkingdom makes sense - that sub has been astroturfed to hell - but to see the same response in r/books was surprising and disheartening. saying ‘well, supporting them is illegal, so what’s the story here’ kind of ignores the question of whether that proscription was justified. there’s a pretty slippery slope that the proscription of PA has created.

the language used to justify the decision was intentionally vague, and their proscription order was bundled in with two neo-nazi groups - one of which was a self-described death cult. there was also the unprecedented nature of retroactively adding of acts of terrorism to the protesters’ charges, despite their actions happening before PA had been designated. this has never been done before, and sets a pretty dangerous precedent.

even if we ignore all of this, there is a considerable history of anti-war protestors occupying military bases, often on behalf of organisations who organise them. to highlight the frustrating lack of consistency here, kier starmer himself defended a man charged in 2004 with breaking into an air base and attempting to set fire to an aircraft. he argued that his actions were legal because they were made to stop an ‘illegal war’. given that israel’s campaign in gaza has long since included war crimes and actions deemed to be illegal as per international law, why would that same defence not apply here?

even if you can somehow argue that the proscription was both above board and morally justifiable based on the letter of the law, there is the question of whether terrorism in and of itself can’t ever be morally justified in the context of its aims and methods. the suffragettes unequivocally engaged in terrorist acts - including bombing government offices. knowing this, would you then argue that they shouldn’t have done what they did, knowing in hindsight what they achieved as a result? absolutely not.

far too many people are confusing the law with morality, and i don’t like the consequences of muddying the waters when it comes to what is, and is not, terrorism.

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u/itoddicus 4h ago

Are you saying the end justifies the means?

I believe Israel is committing genocide.

I also believe people are never justified in resorting to violence.

How many buildings burned, and how many people killed are you ok with to end the genocide in Palestine?

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u/Drong0bones 15h ago

Still not sure why these were proscribed? All I've heard is that there are good reasons for it but the good reasons have never been revealed?

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u/OverCategory6046 12h ago

Sure, I'll tell you.

They've caused millions in ÂŁ in property damage - they broke into RAF Brize Norton and vandalised a fighter jet. They vandalised Elbit systems and broke a security guard's back with a sledgehammer - sprayed a security guard with a fluid they said was acid & distributed "The Underground Manual" which instructed members on how to create cells & engage in direct action (vandalism) against private companies.

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u/Drong0bones 12h ago

Thank you. Vandalising property doesn't make someone a terrorist though - especially when that property may be used to commit war crimes in palestine - as for the bloke who hit the security guard with a hammer he obviously needed to be dealt with for his violent crime but one violent criminal doesn't make a terrorist group surely? Yvette cooper said there was a lot more to it and that they couldn't say what at the time ..they still haven't said what else was going on was my point.

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u/OverCategory6046 12h ago

Don't shoot the messenger, but under the Terrorism Act of 2000, it does. Copy pasting it:

Section 1, terrorism is defined as the use or threat of action designed to influence the government or intimidate the public to advance a political, religious, racial, or ideological cause. Qualifying actions include serious violence, property damage, endangering life, posing health/safety risks, or disrupting electronic systems. Firearms or explosives use is automatically classed as terrorism

I believe it's the pattern that did it, they were getting more and more violent and ramping up the attacks. I think it was over the top to classify them, but there were many causes that support Palestine that weren't so extreme.

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u/itoddicus 4h ago

Would you be OK if a Scottish independence group did the same thing?

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u/Drong0bones 4h ago

Who me? I don't even know what I'm typing half the time toddicus. Nobody should ever be violent though obviously - unless you're defending yourself against some kind of maniac and have to be I guess. As an English person I'd probably want independence if I was scottish? DECLARE INDEPENDENCE DON'T LET THEM DO THAT TO YOU https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2jyqz

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u/FantasyPls 16h ago

UK is completely controlled by a fascist ethnostate currently commiting a genocide while bombing 4+ other countries.

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u/Zardotab 8h ago

🦠 Magatitis is spreading

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u/january161 good for her.gif 13h ago

this is such a bizarre situation

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u/lonehappycamper 10h ago

Can people in the UK buy an international edition and have it shipped?

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u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes 10h ago

Behind US, UK and Germany has been the biggest supporters of Israel. Well, it's their well crafted imperialist project after all.

So it doesn't surprise me.

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u/BBYY9090 7h ago

This is insane

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u/aquaticrobotics I don’t know her 4h ago

"More than 3,700 people are believed to have been arrested in the UK for alleged support of Palestine Action since it was banned in July last year, most for holding placards saying: “I oppose genocide, I support Palestine Action.”

Not that I've been questioning if we're in the worst timeline - but we really are in the worst timeline. wtf?

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u/TroutMaskDuplica 13h ago

They hate us for our freedom

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u/TabbyOverlord 14h ago

I have supported the Palestinian cause all my life but I will not support smashing someone's spine with a sledgehammer any more than I will ignore the violence of the Israeli state. There are many organisations working for a justice.

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u/Rankin37 15h ago

But the UK government can still supply arms and aid to a genocidal state with no recourse or consequences. Seems a bit hypocritical.

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u/kissingkiwis 15h ago

Did you read the article, or even just the head line? She's not getting paid for the sale of her books in the UK because of her political stance.Â