r/Fallout • u/ryuundo • 20h ago
Picture Just found this today. Hell yeah.
I collect records, and I sometimes look for 78s, as I like having the original records for music older than even vinyl. I just looked through a collection and I finally found this record. I’ve been looking for it for a long time (thanks of course, to Fallout), and I can fill the void in my 78 collection with THE Fallout song.
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u/UpgradeTech 18h ago
It's weirdly uncommon. You could probably flip past 50 copies of "If I Didn't Care" ( also used in other video games) before finding one "Fire".
older than even vinyl
Confusingly, "It's All Over But the Crying was never issued on vinyl, only on a record as a 78.
Meanwhile New Vegas uses a version of "It's a Sin to Tell a Lie" that was only issued on vinyl (and 8 track and cassette). Specifically, it was recorded after the Ink Spots had broken up and right before the lead singer Bill Kenny died, in '78....
There's also an obscure Blade Runner connection with the New Vegas version of the song.
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u/Lawfvader6 13h ago
My grandad gave me a 78 of “It’s All Over But the Crying” from his personal collection!
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u/vamos-ya 11h ago
getting a record like that from your grandad beats finding one in any shop. proper family treasure
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u/coinbtn 5h ago
Wait, there's a Blade Runner connection too? This rabbit hole just keeps getting weirder lol
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u/UpgradeTech 5h ago
Long story short, in 1982 Ridley Scott directed a Chanel No. 5 commercial which used a re-recording of “I Don’t Want to Set the World on Fire” from a recently made Ink Spots album. Strangely the plot line and silhouettes of the characters in the commercial would resemble parts of Blade Runner.
Bill Kenny’s widow sued Chanel No.5 over royalties.
Meanwhile in the same year, Ridley Scott would then use the Ink Spots song “If I Didn’t Care” in Blade Runner which is heard in early versions of the film/trailers. However for the theatrical release, the song was removed and replaced with the soundalike “One More Kiss, Dear”
New Vegas would use “It’s a Sin to Tell a Lie” taken from the album of re-recordings Ridley Scott used. A French reissue of the album would copy the Blade Runner-esque poses from the commercial.
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u/International_Bend68 18h ago
Decca - the label that chose not to sign the Beatles!
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u/Occidentally20 17h ago
I doubt a band named after a group of six legged arthropods would have sold many records, no loss to them.
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u/Fredasa 10h ago
Off-topic/tangential: The documentary The Atomic Cafe makes exclusive use of period music and thus the movie's soundtrack in effect functions as a "Fallout playlist." In the spirit of this observation, I once tried tracking down every piece of music heard in the movie, of which there is a lot.
I hit a roadblock when I came to Glenn Miller's cover of Flying Home. After endless searching, I came to this understanding: In the wild, there are about three separate recordings of Glenn Miller's band playing Flying Home. One of those three, the easiest recording to find and the one provided on the official soundtrack, was obviously recorded in a separate studio. The other two recordings were blatantly different takes done in the same recording session.
None of these three are the cue we hear in The Atomic Cafe.
Instead, the recording heard in the movie is an apparent third take done in the same recording studio as the other two. But each of those three takes have completely different qualities, trumpet improv, percussion improv, etc.
Now, how is it that the folks who assembled The Atomic Cafe apparently got exclusive possession of a Glenn Miller recording that is now 100% absent from every resource that is not The Atomic Cafe?
My guess is that they found it in the national archives or similar archives which they were plumbing for material for their movie. They also present a clip of Eisenhower on film giving his state of the union speech—another thing which cannot be found anywhere but The Atomic Cafe. It all clicks.
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u/UpgradeTech 6h ago
This is extremely common in Fallout.
Rocket 69, Anything Goes, Steel Guitar Rag, Johnny Guitar, Why Don’t You Do Right, It’s a Sin to Tell a Lie, Heartaches by the Number, Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition and others.
If you managed to find an original disc and attempt to play them side by side to the in-game version, you’d be a bit disappointed at how different/out of sync they are.
Alternate take, re-recording, overdubbing, Fallout has them all.
Even that exact version of “Accentuate the Positive” only exists in Fallout 4 in hi-def except for a very scratchy version skipping tracks.
Still more songs in Fallout were only issued on enormous 16 inch transcription discs and nowhere else. Until they were recently digitized for CD, they went unheard for 50 years.
Personally I would look into an actual paper discography of Glenn Miller. There are at least three books for the civilian and Air Force band leading up to his disappearance.
So much information has not been digitized and put on the internet.
Extremely likely it was not commercially released whether it’s a film segment, transcription disc, radio aircheck etc. He recorded the song a lot.
Or you’d have to verify if it is a later recording after he disappeared in 1944 whether by Tex Beneke doing his “ghost band” or other incarnations of the former Miller orchestra.
Otherwise there is the Glenn Miller archive at the University of Colorado.
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u/doiwinaprize 18h ago
This is really cool... music and video games and history are all my passions!
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u/plumeriadogs 17h ago
Nice!! I collect 78s as well and would've been thrilled at this find. (For me though THE Fallout song is "Maybe"- now that's one I'd love to get ahold of!)
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u/ryuundo 17h ago edited 17h ago
I actually have that one, as well as some of the other ones in the Fallout canon. I got In Each Life Some Rain Must Fall as well today, I got some of the Billie Holiday songs like Easy Living and Crazy He Calls Me the last time I checked this collection, and I have a copy of Danny Kaye's Civilization.
Now I just need to look for some of the later Fallout records like Uranium Fever and Atom Bomb Baby. It'd be cool to get Big Iron on 78, but thats hella rare as it only exists as a South Africa release (of course I have it on 45 and album at least).
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u/UpgradeTech 16h ago
Coincidentally the first four songs you mentioned are also Decca releases.
Confusingly "Easy Living" is the exception because Billie Holiday recorded two versions ten years apart with different orchestras and different labels.
Fallout uses the Brunswick/Columbia with the Teddy Wilson orchestra. However the official Galaxy News Radio LP uses the wrong version. Still Billie Holiday, but with the Bob Haggart orchestra 10 years later under Decca.
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u/MonkeyKingCoffee Kings 17h ago
I have a couple hundred 78s. I don't play them because I don't have the right cartridge.
But I can't bring myself to get rid of them because "Why would I let this go? This song is amazing."
This record is number-one on my 78 want list.
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u/ryuundo 17h ago
I'd say go for it on the Cartridge! if you have an Audio Technica turntable, theres a relatively affordable 78 cartridge that they offer, so you can properly play your records.
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u/MonkeyKingCoffee Kings 17h ago
Sadly, my turntable isn't quite as forgiving.
I plan on someday buying a dedicated 78 turntable to plug into a mono-block amplifier. Again, this is a down-the-road project.
Congrats on your find. If you ever find another, I hope you'll buy it and put it up on discogs so collectors can get a crack at it. There's only one available right now, and it's below my quality standards.
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u/lordsavemysoulplease 11h ago
somewhere out there a Fallout fan hears this crackling through an actual 78 and gets chills. sick find
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u/War-and-Fleece 19h ago
Amazing find, and congratulations!