r/EstatePlanning • • May 14 '26

Frequently Asked Questions

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  • Why aren't comments showing up? or, Why is the number of comments higher than the number of posts I can see?

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  • Should I use an online tool to create my Will/Trust?

Many DIY providers can make adequate documents, but it's not just about the documents. The documents should reflect a carefully designed plan and the DIY solutions don't do that careful design part. They just offer a basic solution that kinda fits most people. It's like selling only size large tshirts - most people could probably wear it, but doesn't mean it's the right fit. So you can get a good outcome or a bad outcome with DIY. The problem is you don't know.

DIY is imperfect, but so are many lawyers. Documents from lawyers can produce good outcomes or bad outcomes. I have encountered more problems from lawyers than from DIY solutions. Using a lawyer isn't 100% guaranteed to be perfect, just as DIY isn't 100% guaranteed to be a disaster.

Modern DIY solutions have improved significantly from pre-printed forms, static templates, and one-size-only offerings. Some of the offerings today rival the output you'll receive from lawyers who also rely on form generation software (but without the actual legal guidance involved). Some are trash. You likely can't tell the difference, though you likely can't tell the difference between a good lawyer and a bad lawyer who presents well.

The biggest issue is that you don't know what you don't know. You don't know if you've missed an issue because you didn't think of it, you don't know if something you wrote is unclear, you don't know if you didn't fill it out correctly, etc. Hiring an estate planning attorney means someone is ensuring that everything is done correctly. Another mod disagrees with me, and I respect that, but personally, I believe nobody is better off paying an online provider for a DIY estate plan - if your situation is so simple a DIY is sufficient, then you probably don't need a Will so there's no need to spend money on one, and if your situation requires you to have a Will then it's probably more complicated than DIY can handle.

Do not DIY a Trust. There is no such thing as a "basic" Trust or a "simple" trust, no matter what you read online. Furthermore, the documents are only half the package. Trust Funding is just as important, but not only that, the guidance and recommendations from an experienced attorney are far more important.

Also, the best reason to hire an attorney is that (a) they're less likely to make a mistake, and (b) if they do make a mistake, their malpractice insurance can make you whole.

  • My Financial Advisor is offering to do estate planning for me.

Don't do this, ever. At best, they can simply fill in blank forms for you.

If your financial advisor is providing any kind of legal advice, and is not admitted to practice law in your state, they are violating the law; depending on the state that's either a misdemeanor or a felony. I don't know about you, but I don't want to trust my money or my estate with someone who so casually breaks the law.

More importantly, would you trust your car mechanic to provide a medical diagnosis? These are completely unrelated skills.

Additionally, there are certain protections that you get working with an attorney that you don't get from a financial advisor. Attorney-client privilege, a fiduciary duty, and, if things go wrong, malpractice insurance.

  • What about using AI?

At a bare minimum, from start to finish an estate plan involves:

  1. figuring out what the plan should be.
  2. getting the information to put into the documents (e.g. names)
  3. drafting the documents
  4. signing documents
  5. post-signing wrap-up. Things like recording deeds, changing owner and/or beneficiaries of financial accounts, etc.

#4 in many states needs to be done physically, and even in states where it can be done, still requires human involvement, no way around that, sorry.

#2 and #5 are the same whether you use AI (e.g. Claude) or an attorney. Your experience might vary based on the individual attorney or AI that you use, and that is important, but conceptually that part is the same. Used correctly, an AI can be just as good as an attorney.

#1 AI is only as good as its prompts, and you don't know what you don't know. A good attorney will ask you questions you might never have thought of, and see if there's something you haven't considered that might be important for you. If you're not aware of something, you won't be able to add it to your prompt. Just as importantly, AI won't talk you out of doing something you shouldn't be doing, and might not caution you about potential issues.

#3 is the other one where we see issues. AI might miss important clauses, include clauses that shouldn't be there, might use ambiguous language, out-of-date forms, things not applicable to your state, etc. The quality I've seen is... not good. I've had clients ask AI to review my documents, and come back with revisions that would cause problems - including one that would have resulted in significant unnecessary taxes.

the problem isn't that AI can create something that's good enough, it's just that you don't know if it's right, or if it just looks right.

  • What is estate planning?

Estate planning is preparing for the inevitable - determining who will take care of you if you become incapacitated, who will get your stuff when you pass away, as well as when or how they get it. The key components of an estate plan are:

- Healthcare authorizations, so that if you become incapable of making your own medical decisions, someone else can make those decisions for you. Closely related are end-of-life decisions, which may be in the same document, or a separate document.

- Power of Attorney, so that if you need help managing your financial affairs, someone can act on your behalf

- Will or Trust, to determine who will receive your assets after you pass away

- Probate avoidance devises, such as transfer on death deeds or beneficiary designations

- Funeral Authorization, to establish who is in charge for decisions regarding your final disposition

- Guardianship paperwork for any minor children

  • What happens if I don't have an estate plan?

Then the state's default rules kick in. For some people that's fine, but others may not like the results.

- healthcare: nobody can make a decision on your behalf without a court order allowing them to do so. That's an expensive undertaking, and the person the court appoints may not be the one you would want. More importantly, the decisions they can make will be limited, particularly where end-of-life is concerned (i.e. the ability to "pull the plug")

- power of attorney: nobody is authorized to access your bank account, learn about your mortgage payments, etc. Again, they'll need a court order, again it might not be who you want, and that person will probably need to report to the court on a regular basis

- funeral authorization: I once saw a brother and sister in court over a year whether to bury or cremate their mother while the body remained on ice.

- guardian: do you want the court deciding who should raise your children?

- assets: this varies by state. [SOMEONE FILL IN THE GENERAL RULES FOR COMMUNITY PROPERTY]. In states that do not have community property, generally speaking if there are separate children and a surviving spouse, half will go to the surviving spouse and half will be split among the children. If there's no separate children, in many states it'll all go to the surviving spouse, but in some states the surviving spouse only gets half even if there are no separate children. If there's no surviving spouse, the assets will be split among the surviving children. If any child predeceases, then the descendants of those predeceased children will receive a portion, but the way that's calculated depends on the states. If there's no spouse or descendants, typically the parents will inherit, or if none, siblings or their descendants. It can get messy and go to more distant relatives.

If you're ok with the state's default laws, you do not need a Will (or any of the other documents).

  • What is probate?

Probate is a court-supervised process to transfer assets from someone who is gone to someone who is alive. While state law varies in the execution, the purpose of probate is to ensure the assets of the decedent go to the right people. The process involves gathering all the assets, paying off any valid debts, and distributing the rest of the funds to the appropriate people.

In some states probate is generally simple and fairly quick, in other states, probate is more complicated and takes longer. What really makes a probate complicated are (a) unknown heirs, (b) minor children as heirs, (c) disabled heirs, (d) complex assets, (e) uncooperative heirs, and (f) disputes.

To clarify: the legal definition of probate is the process by which a Will is proved (declared valid) but colloquially refers to the court supervised process of administering an estate. All estates need to be administered, but not all estates require court supervision.

  • Does a Will avoid probate? or Do I need a Will?

A Will does not avoid probate, it is merely instructions to the court regarding what you want. Without a Will, your assets will be distributed according to state law. With a Will, your assets will be distributed to the people/organizations that you choose. Same goes for who will administer your estate.

  • The Will made X the Executor who is now telling us who gets what

First and foremost, X is not the executor unless and until the court has approved the Will and has issued official paperwork stating that they're the Executor.

Often that means that property will sometimes sit, unused and unusable, for a period of time after someone has passed away.

Even after someone is appointed Executor, the Executor does not get to decide who gets what - that's determined by the Will and/or by State Law.

If you think X is not suited for the position, you can object to them being the Executor, and propose an alternative. That can drive up the cost of administration, and can also lead to strained family relationships.

  • How Long Does Probate Take?

How tall is a person? There's no single answer. Probate involves (1) petitioning the court, (2) having an executor/administrator/personal representative appointed, (3) gathering all the assets together, (4) paying any valid debts, (5) maybe disputing or litigating various claims, (6) maybe dealing with tax matters, and (6) distributing assets.

How smooth that goes depends on (1) how fast the court process goes, (2) how simple/complex the assets and liabilities are, (3) how effective the executor and their legal counsel are, (4) whether there's any disputes, and (5) whether tax authorities are involved.

I don't know a single state where the creditor claim period is less than 3 months, so if the Executor doesn't want that kind of liability, even with instant turnaround times, it won't be less than that. More realistically, I would expect simple estates without any issues to be resolved in 6-24 months. But if the assets are complex, if there's litigation, or just if people die during administration, the process can run for years, sometimes decades.

The longest probate on record, that of William Jennens, in England, wasn't fully resolved until 117 years after his death. Wellington Burt had a clause in his Will that delayed payout until 92 years after his passing. It took 87 years before Daniel Clark's probate was finally resolved.

  • What is a Trust?

At its simplest, a trust is where a person (Settlor/Grantor) gives assets to a person (Trustee) to hold and manage for the benefit of another person (Beneficiary).

Some ways to look at it:

  1. When you open a bank account, you trust them to hold on to your money, but it's still your money
  2. When you send mail, you trust the post office to deliver your letter to the intended recipient
  3. Giving a teacher an asthma inhaler or an EpiPen to be administered to a child as needed

There are many types of trusts, and names are not always consistent. There are generally three categories of Trusts:

- Testamentary Trust is created under your Will, it does not come into existence until you pass away. Simplest example: When I die my assets will go to my children, but until they turn 18, the assets will be managed by my sister.

- Revocable Trust is a Trust you create today, and you can make any changes at any time. The primary purpose of a revocable trust is to avoid probate. Typically, at the time of creation, the Grantor is also the Trustee and the Beneficiary.

- Irrevocable Trust is a Trust you create today, but you are limited in what you can change later.

There are many kinds of irrevocable Trust, and they can be created for many different purposes.

Note that while assets in a Trust typically (but not necessarily) avoid probate, that doesn't mean there won't be litigation, and while Trust administration usually happens without court supervision, that doesn't mean it'll necessarily be quicker. The issues that can cause delays in administration or contentious litigation don't disappear just because there's a Trust.

  • Should I add my child's name to the deed

Adding someone's name to a deed isn't just symbolic - it's an actual transfer of an ownership interest in the property to that person. So it's a gift of the value of that interest, which SHOULD be accompanied by an appraisal of the property, another valuation done to determine the value of the fractional interest transferred, and likely a gift tax return filed to report the gift.

This can impact other planning done, for higher net worth people (there are some still out there who will pay estate and/or gift tax), actions like this can impact their overall estate plan and possibly increase the estate/gift taxes owed.

You have now exposed the ENTIRE property to the risk that your child would have creditors (divorce - soon-to-be-ex-spouse, business risks, etc.) and that their claims could take property away from you. This is generally not a desired outcome.

There may be state-specific issues related to property tax.

Your child will not inherit the property from you, which can have serious tax repercussions - particularly as your child will receive your tax basis, and will not receive a step-up.

  • Will my child pay tax on inherited property / what is a Step-Up in basis? / What is Capital Gains

On a federal level, there's no estate tax or inheritance tax if your assets are below $15 million, and a married couple can combine their exemptions, which gets it to $30 million.

There also typically won't be capital gains.

If you buy property for $100,000, and sell it for $150,000, you made $50,000 profit, and need to pay capital gains tax (if owned for more than 1 year). More precisely, you're taxed on the difference between the net sale price (after deducting costs), and your Tax Basis, which is called your Gain.

Tax Basis is typically what you paid for the property, plus adjustments. If you bought the property for $100,000 and put in a new kitchen for $20,000, your tax basis becomes $120,000. Rental property can be depreciated, which lowers your taxable income every year, but also lowers your tax basis.

If you sell your primary residence (meaning you lived there for 2 of the last 5 years), you are not taxed on the first $250,000 of Gain, and if you're married, you can double that to $500,000. So if a married couple bought property for $100,000 and sells it for $650,000, there's $550,000 of gain, but only $50,000 is taxable.

If you give property away, whoever receives it takes over your tax basis - can't avoid tax just by giving property away. Plus, the recipient doesn't get the principal residence exclusion until they've lived there for 2+ years.

If you inherit property, through a Will, intestacy, through a Transfer-on-Death deed, a life estate deed, a ladybird deed, community property (in those 9 states), or through some trusts (especially revocable trusts and Medicaid trusts) you get a "step-up" in basis, meaning that your tax basis is the date of death value (or up to 6 months later).

That means that if you sell the property right away, there's no capital gains tax. Or if you hold it for a few years, you're taxed on the difference between the sale price and the date of death value, not the original purchase price.

  • Can someone with diminished capacity (Alzheimer's, dementia, etc.) make a Will or a Trust?

Someone can have dementia or diminished capacity and still have testamentary capacity.  For example, someone with sundowners might have periods where they’re sharp and lucid, and during that time they can make their wishes known and execute legal documents.

While we should not assist when someone is taking advantage, it is not our job to refuse to help a client.  If someone has capacity to sign, and it is. Or clear there being taken advantage of, we should do as the client asks.  It is up to the person challenging the will/trust to prove that the client didn’t actually want to make those changes.

Unlike many other states, in Florida if a natural heir (eg a child) claims undue influence, it is up to the proponent of a Will to prove there was no undue influence.

In Florida, there is a seminal case, estate of carpenter (1971) that lists the main hallmarks of undue influence. A lot of articles have been written about the Carpenter Factors, as they’re now known, particularly by the Florida Bar. Those articles might explain why some factors could just be the sign of a helpful child, or might add additional concerns, etc.


r/EstatePlanning • • Oct 07 '24

Selecting an Attorney – a Guide

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I was initially going to title this “how to select an attorney” but realized that there are no hard rules and making a definitive statement does a disservice to either those who are excluded, or those who select the wrong attorney based on this guide.  I have known attorneys who provide estate planning services in rural areas, large cities, and everything in between, from solo practitioners to the largest of law firms, and thought I’d share my thoughts.  I will gladly state that you can get great service from a solo and horrible service from a major law firm.  So this guide is more to provide information than anything else.

This is a work in progress, and is open to suggestions.

1. Specialization

The single most important aspect of your attorney should be their specialization.  Quite simply, a jack-of-all-trades attorney is unlikely to have an in-depth knowledge of all topics.  An attorney who happens to do Wills on the side probably doesn’t know much about estate planning, such as whether or not a trust may be appropriate.  I had one divorce attorney ask me why I always had a Will notarized when the statute only required two witnesses (quick answer: so that the Will is presumed valid without the need for the witnesses to swear in court that they saw the decedent sign the Will).  While there are exceptions, I generally would not recommend getting an estate plan from someone who doesn’t predominantly specialize in estate planning.

There are also sub-specialties in estate planning.  Going forward, I’m going to refer to estate attorneys, unless I’m referring to a particular sub-specialty.  Broadly speaking, the main subspecialties are:

(a) middle-market planning, which often revolves around avoiding probate and ensuring a smooth transition, but often also includes long-term care planning, knowledge of special needs, etc.

(b) probate and administration, meaning they mostly specialize in the busywork that happens when people die - getting the executor/administrator appointed, transferring assets, stuff like that. 

(c) elder law, which more broadly deals with issues faced by seniors.  This includes Medicaid planning and probate avoidance, but also deals with benefits, guardianships, and a whole host of other corollary issues that many other practitioners don’t deal with regularly.

(d) special needs.  This tends to blend in with elder law, as special needs people and seniors tend to face a lot of similar issues.  Depending on the practice and the clients, this may be a lot more hands-on than elder law.

(e) tax / high net worth.  This generally means people worth tens of millions (lower in some states), who may face millions upon millions in death taxes.  These attorneys know all the funky acronyms you may come across, and are able to figure out which ones to use for which client.

(f) private client / family office.  A private client attorney is more like a general counsel of a wealthy family.  It doesn’t just cover estate planning, but anything that the wealthy family may need, such as preparing a lease, purchasing a jet, finding the best DIU attorney in the vacation resort where their wayward child got arrested. 

(g) litigation.  These people are who you reach out to when there is a serious dispute – such as when you’re trying to invalidate a Will or enforce a Trust.

(h) The transitioning attorney.  This is someone who doesn’t really specialize in estates, but is trying to make the transition.  There are generally two kinds, the recent graduate (or recently unemployed) who can’t find a job, and starts to do simple Wills for their friends and family and tries to make a living with it, and the somewhat older attorney, often divorce or criminal law, who thinks it’ll be an easier lifestyle because they can make their own schedule rather than have to deal with court deadlines and the like.  Some of these attorneys put in a lot of work and study to learn the specialty and can be better than attorneys who’ve been doing estates for years, but a lot of them don’t really know what they’re doing and don’t even know what they don’t know.

(i) the dabbler. This is an attorney who doesn't specialize in estates, but does it on the side. Someone who mostly does family law, or business, or whatever, and occasionally does Wills for clients because he/she thinks it's easy. This attorney doesn't know what they don't know, and should be avoided. Don't even think of using someone who only does the occasional Will on the side - if you're lucky it's just a waste of money, but they might miss a whole lot of things they don't know they should ask about, or they may do things incorrectly and set you up for much higher expenses later. Somewhat related to this are out-of-state attorneys who don't know the laws in your state, and I've seen a lot of problems because of that, including invalid documents.

Keep in mind that while an attorney often has one, or maybe two, sub-specialties, the attorney may still be knowledgeable in other areas.  As an easy example, I don’t specialize in special needs, but I am capable of preparing special needs trusts, and have done quite a few, but only if it’s pre-planning planning for while the parent/donor is still alive and capable; for more immediate needs or in-depth administration, I defer to the experts. 

That also means that many attorneys will state that they do some or all of the above, even if they barely do any X. While the title or practice description at the law firm may be an indication (e.g. private client, wills & estates), that’s not necessarily reflective of the actual specialization. The most important thing is that they know their limits - and stick with it.

Word of Caution

Beware the multi-practice attorney. The multi-practice attorney does a lot of different things, so they may do divorce and real estate and personal injury and basic Wills. I've thought long and hard about this and I don't want to be too harsh; you've got some very clever attorneys who can juggle multiple practice areas and be decent at each, but they're unlikely to master each one. It's a lot more common (and a lot more acceptable) in rural areas where there just isn't enough density for specialization; there are parts of this country where it's a 3-hour drive to a town with 10,000 people, and it's really hard for an attorney to support themselves doing only one thing. As long as they know their limits that's fine. Meaning they know what they don't know and will tell clients when to seek out someone with more knowledge.

Alternative 'Solutions;. Today it's mostly websites selling estate planning solutions, but you can buy a Will template from Staples. I don't recommend this. Usually, the documents are flimsy and bare bones, some of them are quite bad, but that's not what the big issue, the real concern is that there's no guidance. You don't know what you don't know, and a lot of mistakes get made with these. Quite often the documents aren't executed right, people pick the wrong forms, select the wrong options, don't choose their words carefully, and it leads to all kinds of mess. Ask any attorney in this field, we get paid a lot of money to fix the mess created by the online services. But maybe that's just Survivor Bias, and we only see the ones that don't work properly. In the end, my personal view is that you're not paying an estate planning attorney for their documents, but for their advice and so that it's done right.

Related to this are non-attorneys who offer estate planning. Some financial advisors and accounts say they do estate planning. That's not entirely accurate. Estate planning by an accountant or a financial advisor only focuses on part of the picture, and from a limited point of view. It's not uncommon for advisors to work together, and it's great when we can coordinate our different parts with each other. But I've come across such professionals that want to dictate to the attorney what to do, which is not good, there's also professionals who try to undermine the other professionals, which can cause issues, and worse, I've come across professionals who make it appear that you don't need an attorney (or other professional), which is even more problematic. It's great when advisors work together, as long as they all "stay in their lane" - and that goes for the attorney too. I might give a financial advisor my thoughts and ideas, but that's about it, because they're the financial professional, and I only have a surface level of knowledge.

2. Size of Firm.

The largest law firms, with hundreds of attorneys, if they do estate law, tend to have the wealthiest clients, and charge accordingly.  There may be a particular focus on private client / family office, and tax planning for high net worth.

Beyond that, the size of the law firm only tells you the size of the law firm.  Not only that, the size of the department is more important.  A firm with 50-200 attorneys may only have 2-3 who do anything with estates, or it could have a sizeable department of 5-15 attorneys with that specialty.  It’s really no different than a boutique law firm, except that the larger firm gets to keep their clients in-house.

A boutique with 5-20 estate attorneys, including a much larger firm with an estate department that size tends to cater to the middle class and the moderately affluent.  It’s not unusual for a firm like that to have a handful of high net worth or private client, particularly if it’s part of a much larger firm, but you can probably count those clients with your fingers.  These firms are most likely to do a lot of advertising, including seminars – that may or may not be a bad thing (See below).

A solo or small shop runs the gamut – it could be a boutique specialist who has plenty of high net worth clients, such as when the specialist works with some of the major law firms that don’t have their own estate attorneys, or it could be someone who stepped away from a larger firm for lifestyle reasons.  There are also solos/small shops who weren’t able to find a job and just fell into estate planning, or who were previously a different kind of attorney and wanted to transition for an easier lifestyle.  However, when dealing with a solo attorney, and particularly a very old attorney, you might want to ask if the attorney has a plan in place for any sensitive papers that the attorney may hold on to.

3. Location.

The location of the lawyer does not dictate the ability, but it may be an indicator of the typical cases the clients see. 

Rural counties: An attorney in a small rural county is a lot more likely to see the type of clients who live in small rural counties.  Not all rural counties are alike, and so neither are rural attorneys.  While the majority of rural attorneys are generally dealing with many smaller estates, there are also rural attorneys who regularly deal with multi-million dollar estates.  Particularly the kind of multi-millionaires you may see in such areas, such as wealthy farmers, oil & mineral rights, etc.  For example, there are attorneys in more rural areas who specialize in farm succession planning, which very few “big city” attorneys would understand.  That being said, there’s often a limit to the size of the estate local attorneys should be handling, mainly due to the volume.  As such, it’s unlikely that a rural attorney has significant experience with ultra-high net worth planning. 

The largest law firms tend to only be in the largest cities, with over 2/3 of the lawyers in the 200 largest law firms being in just 5 cities, and 7/8th in the 10 largest cities.  Some of those law firms may also have a presence in a smaller location, which may provide access to the larger firm’s expertise.  Beyond that, large cities have all kinds of attorney, from those scraping by, to very respectable boutiques, to mega law firms.

There are still sizeable and deeply experienced firms in somewhat smaller cities.  If the population of the greater metropolitan area is 500,000+, there will probably be two or three boutiques with sufficient knowledge to handle all but the largest estates, but whose main bread and butter is typically more retail clients.  There are also a few more affluent areas where you’ll get a much larger number, such as Naples, Florida, which can rival even the largest cities for the number of high-end practices you’ll find there. 

Suburbs of major cities are in many respects similar to midsize cities, in that you can find some fairly large and knowledgeable boutiques, but there’s also a larger likelihood of specialization.  For example, mid-size firm in a very affluent suburb may have enough clients to only do high net worth.

3B. Multi-Jurisdictional / Different States

The attorney must be licensed in the applicable state. Typically, your attorney should be licensed in your state. It is illegal for an attorney who is not licensed in your state to advise you on estate planning matters in your state or to draft documents for your state.

Some attorneys will take on out-of-state clients to help with out-of-state matters even if the attorney is not licensed in that state. An attorney may even say that another attorney in their firm is licensed in your state, so therefore they can advise you and prepare documents for you. That is illegal in many states, and in some states even a felony - an attorney can't just borrow another attorney's license, the attorney licensed in your state should be part of the process from start to finish. Do not work with an attorney who is not licensed in the state for which the attorney is preparing documents.

It's ok for your local attorney to give general advice on issues pertaining to other states, and for many states there is a safe harbor, so that if you seek a local attorney to advise you on your estate planning, and as part thereof some documents are prepared for another state, that might be ok, as long as the work in/for the other state is secondary to the estate plan in your home state. If you spend significant time in two states (e.g. summers up north, winters down south), you should ideally have an attorney admitted in both states, or otherwise two separate attorneys.

It's also ok to seek an out-of-state attorney for advice on federal matters (e.g. tax); any attorney can advise anyone in the country on federal matters. The out-of-state attorney should not advise you on local law, and may need to bring in a local attorney to review anything related to the state.

4. You get what you pay for – or maybe not?

Quite often people ask what a reasonable fee is, and there’s no straight answer, but there are some rough guides.  While you’d generally expect higher prices in larger cities, that’s not necessarily true.  The sole attorney in a rural area might be so busy that they can charge higher prices, while someone in a more working class part of a larger metropolitan area might be a lot cheaper because there’s a lot of competition.

That being said, if it’s a relatively simple revocable trust package (without add-ons and bells or whistles), the price should range from about $2500 to $7500 anywhere in the country (things that cost more include medicaid planning, special needs, asset protection, tax planning, business succession, etc.).  Any less would be very concerning, because even the most simple estate plan will take several hours – to meet with you to determine your actual needs, to prepare the documents*, to review the drafts, again to meet with you to explain your documents and to sign them. 

If it’s within that range, don’t make the mistake of thinking more expensive is better – I’ve seen expensive attorneys who are mediocre, and I’ve seen excellent attorneys who charge less.  It mostly has to do with their network and the volume of clients they get. 

If someone charges more than that, hopefully it’s because there’s a good reason, such as a more complicated plan or a more demanding client.  Again, that range is for a relatively simple revocable trust, but keep in mind that there’s a lot of things that could make a trust more complicated. 

*it’s not just filling in blanks on templates.  While ideally a lot of the text is pre-written/standardized, that doesn’t mean every client’s work is the same – it’s adding or removing clauses or entire sections based on the client’s particular situation.  Maybe 75% of the document is the same for 75% of the clients, but there’s still a lot of variation – at least, if it’s customized to the client.

5. Marketing

Let’s start off with a “Trust Mill”.  This is a derogatory term for a business that follows a very specific pattern: send marketing to a targeted population, invite them to a seminar (possibly with a free meal), give a presentation about estate planning, and sign up as many clients as possible.  It’s a business, and there are pseudo-franchises where any attorney can pay a fee and they’ll essentially have it all done for them.  Trust mills get a bad name because it’s mostly one-size-fits-all planning.  Think of going to five guys, in-n-out, or shake shack.  Everyone’s getting a burger, but you can choose your toppings.

It's not fair to say all trust mills suck, and they’re not all alike.  Some are run by very dumb attorneys, or those who drank the cool-aid, and try to fit every peg into the same square hole, whether or not it fits.  Some are run by very good attorneys who are very knowledgeable, and it’s just a way to get clients. 

Some attorneys get clients through word of mouth, others through advertising.  Some attorneys spend a lot of time writing or speaking to get their name out there.  Some attorneys donate significant money to charities so they can sit on the board and network.   Advertising doesn’t make someone a worse attorney (or a better attorney).  It’s just a way for people to find the attorney.  Think about your own situation – how are you going to find an attorney? 

But that being said, the way an attorney gets clients tells you something about the typical clients the attorney gets.  An attorney who gets all their clients at the country club typically has a lot of country-club type of clients (i.e. high net worth and private client).  An attorney who gets all their clients by hanging around senior centers is more likely to do elder law.  An attorney who does a lot of seminars is more likely to be targeting the middle class.  An attorney who goes on reddit to post about estate planning probably loves their job a little too much.

6. Awards, Certification, Group Membership

Awards are worthless.  A lot of awards are “pay to play”, meaning the awards make money off the attorneys who they give the award to.  It doesn’t matter if they say something like “only 10% of attorneys qualify” or something like that.  Even if it’s not “pay to play”, it’s still a popularity contest.  Even the most reputable awards are barely more than a seal of approval – I know a Chambers (most prestigious) ranked attorney at a major law firm who uses documents that are hand-me-downs from 50+ years ago, and whose knowledge of trusts seems to be stuck in the '90s.  All awards are worthless.

Certifications are either private organizations or state-run. If it's a private organization, I'd take it with a grain of salt. There are a lot of accreditations and certifications, and some are barely more than a paid plaque. I'm looking at one right now for which the requirements are less than I need to maintain my license to practice. So yeah, I could pay for a certificate so I can tell the world that I show "a high level of professionalism", or I could just be a good attorney. If it's a state run program, it's probably a good indication; the Florida Bar Board Certification is a rigorous program and I know very experienced practitioners who've failed the test. It'll certainly tell you that the attorney can pass the test, but it won't tell you if the attorney has empathy or creativity. A lack of certification doesn't mean the attorney isn't as good as someone who does have certification.

There are also professional organizations, and the qualify varies. Most groups/organizations, just about anyone willing to pay the fee can join, and the only thing membership in the organization tells you is that the attorney pays to be a member of the organization, while some groups may require a few years of practice and/or a few classes. The most prestigious and restrictive group, ACTEC, only tells you that the attorney was able to jump through the hoops needed to join; I know an ACTEC member that uses garbage documents that includes references to sections of the tax code that were repealed more than a decade ago and I can teach a class on how bad they are. To the extent you want to make sure an attorney is dedicated to their craft, in addition to ACTEC (American College of Trust and Estate Counsel), NAELA (National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys) is a good group for elder law, and SNA (Special Needs Alliance) is predominantly a support network for attorneys who specialize in special needs.

7. Materials

The quality of the paper, binder, etc. says nothing about the quality of the attorney. I've seen comments about how fancy binders are only for crappy trust mills. Personally, I provide a premium service for a premium price, so I like to give a top notch presentation. I've done high end tax planning that cost $50,000 or more, a sturdy binder costs less than $50. It actually irks me that there are some very high-end firms that print on the cheapest paper available and just stick documents in a plain envelope - I take pride in my work, and I want my work to look like I care.

8. What should I look for?

Here’s the question everyone probably wants answered.  I can’t give a perfect answer, just my opinion.  What you want is empathy, knowledge, and clarity.

First and foremost, how the attorney makes you feel is important.  If you feel like you’re not getting their full attention, or that they’re rushing you, or pushing you into something you don’t understand, walk away.  An estate attorney once told me “I sell peace of mind”, that the attorney’s job is to make sure the client feels like they’re in good hands and will be taken care of. 

Second, you want an attorney who has sufficient knowledge to know what they’re doing – and more importantly, to know what they can’t do.  The attorney doesn’t need to be an expert on everything, if you have a $500,000 home and a few hundred thousand in retirement funds, you don’t need someone who knows the estate tax through and through.  What you do want is that if you ask, for example, about going into the nursing home, that the attorney can give you a good overview of the requirements for Medicaid – even if they can’t do the application themselves.  More importantly, you want an attorney who’s not afraid to tell you they can’t do something and will refer you to someone who can.

Third, you want an attorney who can communicate clearly with you.  You don’t need to be an expert in estates, but the attorney should be able to explain to you the issues that matter to you in a way that you can understand it and explain how the proposed estate plan addresses those issues. 

Last, you want an attorney who asks questions.  If a client comes to me and says they need a trust, I always ask why they think they need it.  An attorney who just does whatever the client asks for is not a good attorney - we’re sometimes called counselors, because it’s our job to counsel clients, not just to fill out some forms.  As an easy example, you can (probably) go online and find a standard document to appoint a healthcare agent for your state, but it’s the attorney’s job to explain to you why it’s a really bad idea to appoint two co-agents.

Bonus: Trust Funding / Post-Planning Guidance

Often, signing your documents doesn't mean your estate planning is finished, there's usually a few things left to do. Even if you're just getting a simple Will you should still name the beneficiaries on bank accounts, retirement accounts, insurance policies, etc. Your attorney should provide you with instructions.

Trust funding takes a bit more work, as assets need to be transferred into the trust. At the retail level*, the client is doing most of the work - your attorney can't go into your bank and drain your bank account. 20 years ago, your attorney could call your financial institutions and obtain the blank forms, but today it's hard to get the forms if you're not the account holder, so even if we wanted to do it all for you, we still can't do so without your help. Some attorneys will provide assistance (such as filling out forms) as part of the flat fee, others charge an additional fee for that, and it's not unreasonable because the time it takes varies significantly - some people need no assistance at all, others take many hours. At the very least, the attorney should provide written instructions on what you should do - that's the bare minimum, an attorney who doesn't even do should be avoided.

*if you have a personal banker, you know your insurance agent, etc., they'll often help get the forms and may help you fill out the forms. Just like with attorneys, I've noticed a lot of variability in how knowledgeable other professionals may be, and how willing they are to help. I had one client with private banking accounts at two different branches of the same bank, one did everything for the client, filled out the forms, made all the arrangements, etc., the other only provided blank forms and told the client to fill them out and figure it out. I've been shocked by how little some professionals know, and how unwilling they are to pick up the phone and call their main office for support. At the same time, some professionals I've dealt with were absolute experts who knew more about the legal aspects than many attorneys, and who would go the extra mile for their clients just because that's who they are.


r/EstatePlanning • • 10h ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Am I responsible for the trailer my father died in

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Location: California

I found out my father passed away last week. I have received two somewhat varying descriptions of his passing but basically he was dead in his trailer for at least a few days while his bathtub water was running. What is certain is that the trailer is covered in mold inside and other "fluids".

My father owned this trailer but had it parked in a mobile home park where he paid lot rent. I am his only next of kin. I am also 8 hours away.

I have tried to do research but this is my first time dealing with death. I don't believe my father's "estate" will trigger a probate. He had that trailer, an old paid off van, I think a storage unit, and whatever is in his bank account (s?). Which I'm guessing is next to nothing. My father and I were not close and I saw him about once every five years so my exact knowledge of his life is very limited.

And I will say this, I also have basically nothing to my name.

I am not worried about anything having to do with inheritance or monetary gain. My main question is about his trailer. It is not salvageable and should be destroyed. From what I read because it is a biohazard, it can't just be junked. It has to be professionally decontaminated first. I absolutely do not have the money for that or any junking process after.

I was told that if there is no money to be gained or there's no money in the "estate" to pay things off that essentially I'm not responsible for the trailer. And that eventually the mobile home park company will have to be the ones to take care of it. Is any of that true? Will I get sued or anything if I just leave the trailer there? I know that since his lot rent will not be getting paid, something would happen there but I'm not sure what.

I would greatly, greatly appreciate any help at all regarding the legal responsibilities and pocesses after someone passes. Trying to deal with this while being 8 hours away is extremely difficult and the people I have talked to so far do not seem particularly forthcoming with what is happening and what I'm supposed to do.

I appreciate any help


r/EstatePlanning • • 6h ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Need help deciding Will or trust?

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It’s my dad, mom, and me living in the house. It’s under my dad’s name and they want it under mine due to his health. We’ve heard a trust is the way to go but I want to REALLY make sure so it doesn’t come back to bite us later

I’m single and unmarried but idk if that will change later on, any advice? We live in NC


r/EstatePlanning • • 10h ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Alberta probate without a lawyer — what was your experience?

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I'm in Alberta, Canada and I'm trying to decide whether to handle probate myself or hire a lawyer, who has quoted around $5,000–$6,000.

The estate (after debts) isn't very large, so I'd like to avoid taking a big chunk out of my siblings' and my inheritance if I can reasonably do it myself.

I've looked at the Alberta probate forms, and they seem fairly straightforward, but the lawyers I've spoken to don't recommend doing it without legal help. Now I'm not sure what to think!

For anyone who's done it themselves in Alberta:

How difficult was the process?

Were the forms and instructions easy to follow?

Did you run into any major problems or delays?

Looking back, would you do it yourself again or hire a lawyer?

I'd really appreciate hearing about your real-life experiences, good or bad. I'm just trying to make an informed decision and keep costs down without creating problems for the estate.

Thanks!


r/EstatePlanning • • 18h ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post (CA) Solo practitioner: does it look bad if I (the drafting attorney) serve as one of the two witnesses on the pour-over will? The notary would be the second.

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California estate planning attorney here. I used to work at a larger firm where staff handled the will witnessing, so how to staff the witnesses never even came up. Now that I’m a solo practitioner, I don’t have employees, and I hold signings in a rented conference room.

My plan is for me (the drafting attorney) to serve as one disinterested witness on the pour-over wills, and the notary to serve as the second.

My question is: does this look bad or unprofessional to clients, judges, or other attorneys? Is this common among solos, or do most of you bring in a separate witness?

How do other solo practitioners handle witnesses?

Thanks!


r/EstatePlanning • • 1d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Difficult problems need solution

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California resident. I am seeking guidance in securing my disabled son’s future after we (his parents) pass. We have saved as much money as possible, no debts, IRA and 401(a) and 457(b) accounts with Mag 7 investments all doing well. Problem is, we want to ensure he is cared for by his sister and not put in a group home. She has a do-nothing husband and fully supports him financially, which we are very disappointed in. Is there a way to secure the inheritance to prevent her from using it for the husband or just dumping our son in a home. She says she will help him, but how can we guarantee it with financial incentives? Any ideas are welcome. Thanks.


r/EstatePlanning • • 1d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post This one is AMAZING: (NJ) Estate/Probate/Will change at last minute

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Looking for any advice on how to salvage anything from this disaster.

TL:DR: I believe mom is being manipulated by sister via new hospice meds that started Friday (10/9), leading to mom suddenly changing an 18 year old will (2008) where I was named executor, and giving everything to my sister who is "taking care of her." Sister is now covering their tracks to delete and hide damning information that run 100% opposite of the current situation.

This can be a book, so I'll hit the highlights. It's an AMAZING rug-pull.

Mother is dying (diagnosed with cancer everywhere), dad is dead. A will has been in place for 18+ years. I am executor. Her wishes are to split estate 50/50 with sibling. House value ~600k, used car worth 15k, unknown value of all tools/house contents/etc, and ~200k in liquid bank accounts that I know about (there is one other hidden from me, but I'll get to that.)

Sibling (50F) has been bailed out by parents 3x over the last 30 years because of incredibly bad life decisions and a raging gambling problem. Parents have spent easily 200k+ on her. She most recently blew a 220k insurance payout after my bro-in-law decided to self-delete. She is an awful and disgusting human being with one goal - to hit the lottery. He was too good for her.

In July of this year I flew up see my mom, and she asked me to go on her 200k bank account as a joint owner - knowing I'd use it for the estate and probate process. She did not put me on the other account (different bank) that she shares with my sister because , "There's not much in it anyway."

Sister/boyfriend (2nd boyfriend since the bro-in law died - the 1st boyfriend also self-deleted by same action) moved back in with mom in July for her 5th attempt at co-habiting "to help out mom." What she really meant was to "help mom out of her money." Think Janice from the Sopranos.

5 days ago I flew up to NJ again to spend time with mom as she's slowly starting to deteriorate. Since I live 12+ hrs away by car, we decided before I got there that we would discuss the will with the intent to have everything figured out and mom could be there to referee.

Sister crocodile-teared up before we even discussed anything, exclaiming, "ALL I WANT IS 80k SO I CAN GET OUT OF DEBT." I told her absolutely not and countered with me taking 37% (mostly cash acct) and she could have 63% of the estimated estate value with close to 85% of the equity in the house to fix her life up. A backup plan was 45/55% house equity split and estate account split 50/50. I came up with these ideas mainly on the fly since I couldn't even estimate the estate's true value, plus the sneakiness of hiding that other bank acct. Either way, my sister could have walked away in FAR better shape than the arbitrary 80k she crowed about through those fake tears.

Sister became "exhausted" so the 1h struggle session ended without any agreement. Even her new boyfriend (hope he doesn't decide to self-delete) told her these terms are absolutely amazing and would let her rebuild her life. At this point mom started to get tired, so we left for the day.

Here's where it starts getting nutty.

Came back next day and I was immediately attacked by my mother for not "taking care of family." She further stated that she made my sister move in for help and that she was scared she'd leave my mom to fend for herself if she didn't get what she wanted. For the millionth time, I told her to come live with me, but she refused. I asked my mom what she wanted and was told I should use the estate acct to carry my sister for at least 2 years for "her to get back on her feet" and then we sell the house if she wanted to leave. I said that was an AWFUL idea, but let's get her back to the table and we'd discuss. Sister happened to still be "exhausted" from the prior day and refused to talk. Continued the visit until late afternoon and then left with a nagging thought that my mother is being manipulated with the hospice meds, but I'd figure out more tomorrow.

Next morning comes and right before I'm about to leave and head over to my mom's house, I get a phone call. It's my mom.

She tells me something to the effect of, "I had an epiphany last night. I'm removing you from the will. Your sister will get everything. Don't come over. I'll see you when I see you."

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, WHAT?

I went over anyway. There was a spirited conversation between me and my mother - and sister -until I shooed her away. Halfway through rehashing this nonsense, I noticed my mom having the same look I've seen on a hundred elderly people - the empty, blank stare they get when they have no idea wtf is going on, and they start repeating the same thing. It was useless to try to talk about anything with her. When medicated or elderly get like this, communication is non-existent. Backstory - I was a cop for over 25 years.

Fast forward to today. Went through texts and FB messenger to find the texts/msgs over the last 5-6 years where my mom repeatedly said that she knew I'd do the right thing regarding the will, that my sister was an evil, manipulative B, but also how she needed her there to take care of her and didn't want to piss her off because she'd have no help.

Guess what happened to those very relevant and damning messages? DELETED by my sister, but thank god my wife has a whole bunch of them as they were actively being deleting as we searched the histories. My mom is completely illiterate with that stuff and has other crap to worry about.

My joint bank acct was drained and closed. I know I could've taken out the money myself had I been a scumbag, but I ain't. The bank account went largely into a cashier's check, and another check for "debt payoff." My mom had no debt.

Something was filed at the city clerk's office which I ASSUME was a quitclaim deed to put the house in my sister's name.

TL;DR2: This was the rug-pull of the century. Spent well over $1k on plane tickets, a car rental, food, etc, and in the end greed, manipulation, and straight evil wins the day. I really hope the casino enjoys the $800k+ of house, bank accounts, and anything else she can squeeze out of people.


r/EstatePlanning • • 1d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post California: What to do after grantor trustee passes?

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edit: We do have an EIN for the trust but she has not filed the taxes. We will be working with a CPA to get the taxes taken care of.

My mother passed 5 years ago and my sister was the successor trustee. We had the trust created in a haste because my mom was diagnosed with terminal cancer and we only had weeks to help her make an estate plan. We understand the trust became irrevocable after her passing.

Funds have been disbursed to all adults. The remaining funds are for the benefit of two great-grandchildren, currently ages 8 and 10. The trust states they get the funds at age 25. Because they are my grandchildren, my sister no longer wishes to serve as trustee and would prefer to transfer that job to me. (I am specifically listed to be a successor trustee if my sister cannot or is no longer willing to serve in that capacity.)

My questions:

  1. Were we supposed to have an attorney do some type of amendment at my mother's death to document that she passed and it is now an irrevocable trust or is that assumed with a copy of the death certificate?
  2. I do not believe my sister ever obtained an EIN for the trust, I think she just kept filing under my mom's SSN. I spoke with my bank today about moving the money to investment accounts and they said I need an EIN. Will we need to file this year under my mom's SSN and then under the EIN starting in 2027, or do we need to file two tax returns for 2026?
  3. How do I ensure that the children do not have access until age 25? Everything I read about CUTMA/UTMA accounts says age 18 or 21? Will that be noted when we open the investment account since it is documented in the original trust?
  4. It looks like my sister and I can just execute a notorized document changing the trustee from her to me, but I read we need to notify the remaining beneficiaries, do we send letters to the 8 and 10 year old or to their parents?

We would really like to not pay an attorney because my husband and I have already paid over $7,000 for our own trust planning this year after our first attorney was incompetent and we had to hire someone else to review it and remedy the errors.


r/EstatePlanning • • 1d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Transfer on death without a revocable trust in GA?

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How do I prepare TOD documents to transfer my house to my beneficiary without moving to a revocable trust?


r/EstatePlanning • • 1d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post HEMS

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I’m a beneficiary of a trust. It is farmland that is rented out and generates roughly 100K yearly. My father is currently primaru income beneficiary. I am remainder beneficiary upon his death. however there is a HEMS clause that states that the trustee has full discretion to provide distributions for “health, education, maintenance and emergencies.” how much can I reasonably request in distributions? Should I get an attorney involved?

Indiana


r/EstatePlanning • • 2d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Probate with no access to financial info, no will (VA)

18 Upvotes

This is for Virginia. My mom passed away in her apartment and, as part of that discovery, it came to light that there is a bed bug infestation and it's to the point that the city has now declared her apartment uninhabitable.

She did not have a will, she has little to no assets aside from what is in the apartment, and has been working with a credit counseling service.

How vital is it to look for financial papers? My sibling and I have a call out to a probate lawyer, but while we are waiting to hear back we have to decide if we want to dig through her (infested) stuff or just bag and trash everything.


r/EstatePlanning • • 2d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Am I overreacting, or is my estate planning law firm handling this completely unprofessionally?

17 Upvotes

Hey everyone, looking for a reality check here to see if my frustration is justified or if I'm expecting too much. I'm just a client and have no legal background, so please bear with me.

I'm in Southern California and originally used an estate planning law firm back in 2019 to set up my living trust and transfer my properties (my parents had previously used them to set up their estates and wills before they passed).

This past spring I found out that the original documents they drafted had several big structural errors (they failed to set it up as a joint trust with my spouse, messed up an account number in the MoU, and omitted required sub-trust provisions). So, I had to pay them again this year to review and fix their own previous mistakes.

As part of fixing everything, they drafted a new grant deed to put my primary residence into the trust. I got a letter from the county last week saying the legal description was in error and it turns out that they accidentally pasted the legal description and APN for a a different property I own (a condo I rent out) onto the deed for my primary residence.

When I brought this up, a staff member forwarded me an internal email where their employee admitted to using the wrong legal description from a 33-page title report packet during drafting in April 2026.

So, just now, when I talked to the firm's representative about getting this corrected, the lawyer who I worked with this year (who was different from the original attorney who made the mistakes back in 2019):

  1. Refused to admit it was their drafting mistake and tried to blame my old escrow company (even though their own employee confessed in writing that she misread the title packet).
  2. Acted like fixing it was doing me a "huge favor."
  3. Aggressively demanded I pay a $30 county re-recording fee to file the corrected deed.
  4. Spoke to me in a defense and aggressive tone, and argued with me when I questioned paying for their error.

I'll admit, I was very irritated and frustrated as well and was having trouble keeping calm. I had sent them a message this morning asking them to kindly expedite things this week, and the admin from the office called in the afternoon and told me I could come by tomorrow to sign. All good.

But then she called me back to "remind me to bring the letter from the county and my checkbook to pay the $30 filing fee. This set me off because I was assuming that they would be paying any further fees that came up due to this being their error. Then the lawyer jumps into the phone and starts haranguing me for making an issue out of this "$30 fee" and said it "ridiculous".

At this point I really had to reel in my temper because I just want to get this done - so I had to bite my tongue and resist the temptation to get into an even more intense and unconstructive yelling match with this lawyer (who was most definitely yelling at me over the phone).

Obviously this is not about the $30 - it's the principle. I paid this firm to fix their 2019 errors, they turned around and made a new clerical error on my deed, and then yelled at me and are making me pay the filing fee to correct their own mistake.

So, am I right to be upset here and demand an apology from management, or is this just "the way it goes" in real estate/estate planning that I need to accept?

I doubt there's much I can do beyond sending their management a complaint letter and not using them again. But suffice it to say, I'm not impressed by this firm and the way do business.


r/EstatePlanning • • 1d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Family drama

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Hey guys! I need your advice.I live in Kenya, Nairobi. So my dad died last month and i wasn't in communication with him for 18 years rn I'm 26 years old. So my uncle found me and told me he's sick and I must go see him which I was reluctant because it was out of the blue...this was around July. They told me I should go fight for my inheritance, which I wasn't interested in because I barely knew the man. I went to the funeral but as one of his kids I wasn't in his eulogy which kinda hurt. Now they were to call me and tell me more about his will and if he left anything for him. I called my uncle and he told me I need to know all his properties which he never showed up. Now he's claiming that I shouldn't be given anything since we were never in communication. I can't afford a lawyer to stall the succession process. So should I give up my inheritance since majority of succession disputes end up badly?


r/EstatePlanning • • 1d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Twice-Inherited IRA question

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I am in Wash state, U.S.: A friend left me an IRA back in 2017. Since this was pre 2019, I don’t have to empty it within 10 years, so I am only taking RMDs. (My friend was at RMD age when she died so first year was at a level based on her age, and since then at a level based on mine.)

I have listed a sibling as beneficiary. Since she is less than 10 years of my age, she would be exempt from the 10 year thing, as well. She’d have to take RMDs the same way I did…but nothing about who I inherited it from would have any bearing for her.

Is that correct?


r/EstatePlanning • • 2d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post New York: Does absent parent inherit equally?

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In New York State (USA), if a person dies intestate with no spouse or issue and their only distributees are two parents, is the estate distributed equally between the two parents irrespective of their relationship to the child? For example, let's say an adult with a mother and a father dies intestate and the dead person hadn't seen their father since they were a small child and the father did not pay child support or even see the child for decades.

Would there be a way for a surviving parent to ensure they got more from their child's estate than the deadbeat parent? TIA.

ETA: The comment count is up to 16 but I only see 3 included the modbot comment?


r/EstatePlanning • • 2d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post As an executor or personal representative, which bank or entity have you found to be the most difficult when attempting to gain access for distribution? USA

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I am in year two of trying to settle my brother’s estate. Not only am I his personal representative, I am the sole beneficiary.

The first year was spent securing the estate, maintaining bills and putting the house up for sale. Once the house sold earlier this year I’ve been trying to settle up his retirement accounts. Unfortunately, the majority of these accounts did not have a specified beneficiary, and the estate is the beneficiary. I have been dealing with Alight, Charles Schwab, JP Morgan Chase, Acensus, Empower, and Fidelity.

So far the absolute worst have been JPMorganChase and empower. They keep finding ways to try to delay the distribution. It’s gotten so bad I’ve had to bring in the estates lawyer to try to get this done.


r/EstatePlanning • • 2d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Medicaid vs Estate

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My sister, who lived in New Jersey, died less than a year ago, at 73. She had original Medicare. Her only income was Social Security. Because of her advanced cancer diagnosis and the possibility of nursing home care, she applied and was approved for Medicaid. She had one overnight hospital stay and six months of outpatient cancer treatment. She died at home after three days of hospice.
Her estate consists of her home and two outbuildings on less than two acres of undeveloped land and a 15 year old car. Her married daughter and two children live on the property as well and have been there for 15 years. Her will leaves the property to her daughter who is also executor.
Medicaid recently sent a letter and claims that the estate owes $35,000 and, if unpaid, they will place a lien against the property. We understood that this could happen but she lost the battle very quickly and all of her treatment would have been covered by Medicare. We don’t have this money and my niece and her family have nowhere to go. I want to help my niece appeal the charge but we seem stuck in a loop between the debt and probate which she has opened. I’m just hoping to get some advice about next steps. Thank you.


r/EstatePlanning • • 3d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Neighbor in the will

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This happened in the state of New Hampshire. My elderly family member had arranged for a neighbor to care for their cat after they passed away.

While my family member was still alive, they gave the neighbor $15k-$20k and also named them in their will to inherit a significant additional sum.

The cat is not mentioned in the will.

Just one week after my family member passed away, the neighbor had the cat euthanized, claiming it had a terminal illness. The cat had been taken to the vet regularly, sometimes monthly and my family member never mentioned any illness or chronic health issues.

I’m incredibly angry and concerned that my family member was manipulated.

Does the family have any legal recourse to challenge the inheritance or recover the money, particularly if the estate has already been distributed?


r/EstatePlanning • • 2d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Would a trust protector allow me to be trustee?

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I am a beneficiary of a trust established under Tennessee law. My siblings and I each have separate trusts created under the same governing document. Our mother was originally intended to serve as trustee, but she passed away when we were young. All beneficiaries are now in our forties with families.

Currently, our 80-year-old aunt serves as trustee. The trust document permits the trustee to resign at any time and appoint each beneficiary as the trustee of their respective trust. Serving as our own trustees is clearly in our best financial interest, as it would eliminate administrative friction and trustee fee deductions. However, our aunt refuses to resign or appoint us. Under the current terms, if she passes away without appointing us, a corporate trustee will succeed her.

The document also names a trust protector with broad powers to amend trust provisions and to remove and appoint trustees.

Question: If our aunt passes away without appointing us, what legal, fiduciary, or tax reasons might lead the trust protector to appoint a corporate trustee rather than appointing each of us as our own trustee?


r/EstatePlanning • • 2d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post seeking elder care lawyer who deals with trust distribution and offers free initial Zoom consult in MA

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Anyone have any experience with a good elder care lawyer who deals with trust distribution and offers free initial consult in MA? (preferably Middlesex County, but not required.)

I live out of state, but am personal representative for a MA estate, so I would need someone who offers Zoom consultations.

Thanks in advance.


r/EstatePlanning • • 3d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Thoughts on paying big consult fee prior to intake?

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Now that we're seriously shopping for someone to set up a SNT and associated stuff in California, one thing that's seriously surprised me is these law offices that ask you to pay their hourly rate before any kind of discussion whatsoever. They won't tell me their typical fee schedule or ballpark ranges, they won't tell me their firm's process, or really anything at all. One of them told me over the phone that I should check out their YouTube channel if I needed any information. (At least it wasn't TikTok.)

The smallest fee I've been asked for was $500, and the largest was $750, so far. I am able to afford these fees, but I'm not able to afford frittering it away.

I have trouble even politely declining these requests. Who could ever afford this, other than the obscenely rich or people extremely bad with money? Like, how can I send this much money down the drain on someone I'm not even sure I can afford, or even is a good fit for what I need? What is even the point of meeting a lawyer who hasn't been able to review your case by asking for proper intake materials?

I've seen lawyers say, "Well, I like my clients to have some skin in the game, to weed them out." But why should this responsibility be entirely on the client? More to the point, since hopefully the attorney is an expert in their area, why don't they have the infrastructure to do some basic pre-screening upfront?

There are some law offices I've contacted that do have varying amounts of intake prior to asking for money. The two we've booked so far (one for a separate matter, $800 for one and $400 for the other) both had actual intake processes, and have both asked for extensive information and documents prior to the initial consult. It feels very credible and I believe I'll receive value for my money.

Is there any reason I should bother with these other firms that just want the hourly rate, case site-unseen? Or should I understand this to basically mean they aren't looking for new clients unless you're really willing to spend? (For what it's worth, I'm a clean slate client, and I have what I believe to be a very standard and straightforward SNT setup situation.)


r/EstatePlanning • • 4d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post My mother passed away, and her partner is claiming the house and furniture that she owned before meeting him.

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My mother, aged 57, passed away a month ago due to cosmetic abdominal surgery. Her partner, whom she was not married to, had her sign a Quit Claim Deed with survivorship rights in 2022 instead of putting her name on the title of the house. They had been living together since 2017 and decided to buy the home in 2019, but for some reason, her partner took sole ownership of the mortgage loan, even though they split the monthly payments. In 2022, after she insisted that she had no rights to the house if something happened, he had her sign the deed. I am still living in the house with him, but now he wants me to leave, claiming everything inside is his property, despite some furniture my mother bought before their relationship in 2016, for which I have receipts. He is also demanding $8,000 (to pay the loan of the abdominal surgery) from my mother’s life insurance, of which I am the sole beneficiary, and refusing to let me take the furniture she purchased before meeting him. I not going to pay him $8,000,When I have to cover all the funeral expenses, and he never asks if I’m okay or what his part is.

Background: I’m 32 years old, don’t have kids, and my mother and I have always been close. I know all her information—bank accounts, passwords, everything—and I’ve been the one to pay the bills and keep the household organized. She and her partner just contribute their share of the money. He’s 57, has no children, but my mother has always told me not to trust him. I put my life on hold to be with my mother and take care of her because we are immigrants. We started from scratch in the USA, sleeping in a friend’s living room in 2014, eventually becoming U.S. citizens and getting a nice house (loan was $200,000, now worth about $360,000). Then she decided to have surgery without my approval, and her partner got $8,000 from Klarna, and everything just fell apart.

Can the laws help me, or should I just walk away and leave the house?


r/EstatePlanning • • 3d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post How's to get my house in order while staying faithful to the HEMS standard

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I essentially have two questions I'm hoping y'all can help me with. First is, after reading below, do I have a decent grasp on what I'm dealing with? And second, how can I use the funds from an irrevocable trust, with HEMS, to get my financial affairs in order? Thank you!

This is in Kansas. My mother is probably going to pass in the next few weeks and her assets, about $180,000 to me by the time all is said and done, is going into an irrevocable trust of which I'll be both the trustee and beneficiary. The trust specifies distributions using HEMS and a 5% annual disbursement without qualification. I'm just starting to try and understand what all that means for my future. It's not a totally life changing amount of money, but it is a sizeable chunk to get some things going in my life. I am married with two kids, but they are not beneficiaries.

I own a home that needs repairs and updates and I also have a fair amount of credit card debt, federal taxes owed that are on payment plans, and car debt (both mine and my wife's for which I am on the title).

In an ideal world, I would like to use the trust money to pay off debts and make needed repairs to my home. I'm fairly certain HEMS allows me to pay off my car and make the repairs to my home, but what I'm uncertain about is how I can use HEMS to pay off preexisting debts. Worst case scenario, I think I'm allowed to use the trust to take over my mortgage payments which frees up my own money to pay down debts.

I'm not looking for a way to game the system, but I'm hoping the standard is flexible enough to allow me to get my financial house back in order.


r/EstatePlanning • • 4d ago

Yes, I have included the state or country in the post Does a revocable trust have to be re-titled to an irrevocable trust when the grantor passes?

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I have an existing revocable living trust in the state of Maryland. My son "Steve Smith" is the beneficiary and my daughter "Jane Doe" is the co-trustee. It is titled
John Smith Revocable Trust
John Smith Trustee
Jane Doe Trustee
It is unclear to me if when the grantor of the living trust passes, the title of the trust must be formally changed from the name of the grantor of the trust to the name of the beneficiary and the surviving trustee
Steve Smith Irrevocable Trust
Jane Doe Trustee
If so, must the new title include Irrevocable Trust or can it just be titled Steve Smith Trust?
Thanks for your help in clarifying this