r/EpicSeven • u/Permanoxx • 21h ago
Fluff Please never leave
ive gotten so much mystics from this shop. thank u dellang 🙏🙏
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u/AscendPerfect 21h ago
Average ss per mystic from secret shop is 285-300.
Average ss per covenant bookmark is 75.
160 skystones per mystic is absolutely crazy good, because this is time gated. Per year you will get about 520 mystic summons. Every time you buy the 2 summons in her shop you are effectively getting a free mystic summon and saving about 1 million gold.
Meanwhile you are losing 4 summons and 20 sksystones.
So if you buy this 16 times, you gain: 16 mystic summons, you save 16 million gold, and you lose 68 covenant summons.
So the question is, do you want mystic medals or covenant summons more?
Personally I believe that mystic medals is the clear winner unless you are broke on covenant summons.
Every mystic medal you gain makes you one step closer to never missing a new ml 5. If you skip an ml 5 you might not be able to use them for another 1 year 3 months.
I currently have 39000 mystic medals right now and will own every single ml 5 in 45 days (coin shop), but I still will take every oppertunity to get mystic medals for cheap. If i get unlucky many times in a row, those mystics will be what saves me in the future.
Meanwhile i have never in 7 years skipped an rgb or limited unit, but still get the ones i like SSS, always SSS good collabs.
Tldr For some this is a golden deal, for some this will fuck up their covenant summons, but I personally think mystics are higher priority unless you are broke on covenants
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u/Hudrat 21h ago
The main thing for me is saving time refreshing the shop. I don’t mind technically losing some value in game because my irl time is worth more than spending a couple hours refreshing all of my ss
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u/CabbageCZ 21h ago
Tbf from what I've seen around me it feels like a huge chunk of the more active playerbase is using a refresh macro of some sort. The time investment doing it manually is horrid
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u/CiDevant 20h ago
Plus carple tunnel.
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u/Brentimusmaximus 17h ago
It’s not that bad on your phone but it’s horrible on pc for your hand/wrist lol
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u/Xero-- 19h ago edited 15h ago
Past two years have felt different to the point I don't think it's bad luck, but they genuinely nerfed the rate. Ton of refreshes and getting mystics is more like 50 every 1.2k stones. Shop is better with the dogshit secret shop rng.
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u/Authijsm 14h ago
idk, after 15k refreshes in the last month, I've gotten a mystic more often 1/300 skystones, more like 1/250.
That being said, I've never gotten an ML5 before pity.
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u/Legitimate_Player 21h ago
That’s a lot of mystics you’re sitting on. What’s your secret?
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u/Xero-- 19h ago
Get lucky and rarely pity, skip banners and get units from
galaxycovenant, or swipe. It's one of these three things or even a combination of.3
u/AscendPerfect 17h ago
Planning ahead and getting lucky are the best ways to get a lot of mystics, if we ignore spending money. If you can, you should skip one unit between december and june so you can get them for free from headhunt, saving you 200 mystic summons. You should always do 30 discounted summons unless you absolutely do not want the current banner and have more than like 50 summons done already.
All that said, getting lucky is a must if you want to own all ml 5 without spending money, no way around it.
Average mystic summons per week is 10, and 9 every 6 weeks from 40% off
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u/JustASpaceDuck 11h ago
Meanwhile i have never in 7 years skipped an rgb or limited unit, but still get the ones i like SSS, always SSS good collabs.
Yeah but it pretty much takes 7 years to get to that point though. I've been playing pretty steadily since late 2024 and I can't imagine having even 1000 mystics at a time, much less SSSing anything outside of random chance during Epic Dash.
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u/idgafosh 21h ago
what are you guys buying?
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u/Permanoxx 21h ago
Just the mystics. I bought a few pieces of gear but I wouldn’t recommend it if ur running low on skystones
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u/Hallsway :MontmorancySUM: 21h ago
im so sad cause i was swimming in skystones but bled myself dry for lisette, only to get her again in the free summons a week after the banner ended. now im struggling just to get the mystics that show up and cant get any of the gear smh
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u/Savings_Condition256 20h ago
Mystics. In secret shop you get 50 medals at around 300 gems spent. The downside being you also get 5 bookmarks with 75 gems spent. Aka you lose out on ~2.1 covenant pulls but you get almost double the mystic medals. And it's not rng. It's just convenient. Most of my rgbs are sitting there untouched and ml5s are actually mostly getting used. So I'd consider it as worth it
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u/LockedAngel101 21h ago edited 20h ago
Yeah I'm surprised on how much mystics they have given us with this shop, especially with the discounts. Gotten like 3 ten pulls of mystics from this alone
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u/viviphy_ 18h ago
I'm cleaned out of skystones because I keep swooping up the mystics aha. I gotta start saving a stockpile again for covs for the inevitable limited banner.
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u/FailedConcept 21h ago
I check her shop every reset. It’s like a second and third daily login reward for me with how many mystics I’ve gotten.
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u/PuddingJello 21h ago
Yea I've been buying them too. It was even more worth when we had the mystic discount. I was able to get lady from pity and work my pity down a decent amount
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u/Ramzie_Redline 15h ago
Hey, uhhh hopefully you know about this but... Go to side stories, then theater... Thank me later lol
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u/StepBro-007 21h ago
No,her price is better than average 50 mystics refresh rate from Garo which is 250-300
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u/CiDevant 21h ago
Her price is better than Secrect Shop on average but you are missing out on the potential ~3 covenant summons. So it really depends on your priority.
It says 20% off but it's really closer to 50% the Secrect Shop rate.
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u/Healthy_Ad2709 21h ago
This is the correct answer, even if you lost in the mystic department a little bit (been there 1k skytones not a single mystic), you would always average in the covenant summons that you can use to pull for Mei Lin
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u/AMRFalcon 21h ago
Yeah the mystics are on average worth it JUST looking at the average mystic rates in Secret shop. Considering you are missing out on regular Bookmarks it could be considered bad though.
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u/paydemanzan 21h ago
I agree the mystic is worthy in the other hand the covenant are a scam