Isn't it kinda funny how we end up with another moment where we have a weird mod and an "impartial" specialist to back up Dream's claims?

In Hax's interview with Dart and Repeater64, we're told that Dream sent an old version of the mod that could be the cause of the uptime issues. But how can we trust anything Dream says at this point?

To believe Dream, we need to explain:

Item labels disappearing — Screenshot mod
Glint animation — Screenshot mod
Item skipping equip animation — Screenshot mod
Vignette at the end — Screenshot mod
Potion particles skipping frames — Screenshot mod
Uptime delta — Screenshot mod
Chunks unloading — Screenshot mod?
Cumulative Y value resetting — Screenshot mod?
Aim jumps
The iron dupe
The smelting time
The potion time
The boat clutch GUI
Pickaxe doing a backwards animation
Fullscreen "bug" with resampling
Boss bar with a different color
Ender Pearl in a chest
Eye of Ender mismatch in the portal room
Hot tourist not showing when it should
Block missing in the lava boat
Use of /settime (older videos where the spawn was set required it to be nighttime)
XP level going from 16 to 7
Slimes spawning where they shouldn't
Daquavis' Tactical Fishing
Frost Walker boots
Punch II book loot mismatch
Weird loot tables in the Revival series
Why was the Screenshot mod coded in the stupidest way possible?
Why are you taking screenshots exactly before the important moments, and not after?
Why hide cuts if they're just for legitimate breaks? Just show us a black screen with "bathroom break" on it like you did once.

It's just too much. The Screenshot mod can't explain everything, even if ChatGPT was correct. The simplest explanation is that the manhunts are staged. Given the amount of evidence, this is a fact.

The manhunts are fake, not by accident, not by a bug, not by someone else. By Dream, who lied and manipulated his audience, to the very last consequences of it.

And used the R-word, hopefully history doesn't repeat itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_-N5AVFzBY

The first image is a zoom of the manhunt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNsxw4VRTgQ, at around 5:42. the second image is the exact same region of the pic, but in dream's screenshot found in dart spark's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsWNWzSwVUA at 1:38:56

As you can see, there's a discrepancy between the two images, bad's name is a whole 3 pixels to the left in dream's screenshot.

In the third image you can see the difference map. Note that the subtitles are meant to be gone in the screenshot image according to dream, so that part isn't the concern. (4th is the screenshot, 5th is the vid)

HOWEVER, notice how bad's name is the practically only thing that lights up (maybe puffy's tool too). these are meant to be the *same time*, but the name is in a different position.

The natural explanation is they're taken at a slightly different frame. BUT it doesn't explain why the block animation of the netherrack is perfectly lined up. The placing animation is meant to be perfectly smooth, it does not have a frame cap afaik. So why isn't the block different? (maybe you guys can see it better than me) Could this be evidence of a faked screenshot? Let me know what you think

u/dreamistaken honey boo why did you do that? I just want to watch your manhunts!!!1

what is the reason for none of the hunger jolt anomalies being found in the new revival series?

did he suddenly have a change of heart and decide to stop cheating? the videos have the same theatrics as the originals, so that just doesn't seem likely.

he made those videos before we knew about the hunger jolt, so i don't see how he could've found a way around it.

there was a post here that i can't find anymore that mentioned glfwSetTime which jumps ahead the offset applied to the system clock & would cause the enchantment glint to jump, so i looked into that timer further. the excuse will be that he used this to clear the screen because changing it jumps ticks which fades chat, disappears labels, etc. as well as also covering other ui that ticks dont like tutorial/advancement/recipe toasts (image 6)

other things like subtitle fading, animations like fire, random sounds, & heart flashes when your health changes (all things in the images) are also dependent on glfwGetTime, if they even use the hud ticker to begin with (animations have their own, image 27, so do sounds). everyone's focused on the heart jolts but i think the flashes are what will be the focus, i suspect whatever dream whipped up did not consider this and the evidence doesn't match up

funnily enough the post mentioned this function is so obscure that searching "glfwSetTime" "net.minecraft" has zero results on github, so there's a very real chance dream was so determined to come up with an excuse that he was the very first person to ever call this function in a minecraft mod

a couple of other notes:

• end crystals also have their own individual counters that are entirely unaffected by glfwSetTime and ticks so they should never jump and if it lags it catches up on the background so it can't jump frame to frame
• performance mods do overwrite default animation behaviour, image 48 is optifine source code showing even when its not rendering fire it still keeps the animation count
• image 22 is animation logic from a newer version than 1.16, idk when it was changed but 26.3 uses this logic and changed it so animations update once per frame instead of once per animation tick
• fire sound randomness depends on the animation ticker and i think higher chance to play in quick succession as it tries to catch up?

unrelated theory:

• image 74 is about the video being meta, did you know there's a video that dream uploaded but removed from youtube leaving it only (offically) on facebook/meta? you can find a reupload here, it only has 900 views on yt. haven't looked too hard at it yet

edit bc i forgot to link the images in question: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eNXf3y3TyWmQ6L5ahjFr_emo1ZBsz9jVkslIHWjnySM/edit?tab=t.3mgc1xlgqp0g

edit bc my account is too new to comment without approval:

after reading repeater's comment, it seems like he modified getMillis which comes from glfw time, but seems like glfwSetTime was not used (you still have the chance to be the first!)

rly trying to rely on the general public's vibe that llms are often pretty stupid but not knowing the specifics of how they're stupid - they'll get way off track, make mistakes in code that aren't immediately obvious, totally misunderstand the question, or just outright hallucinate. in this case its entirely valid code but to even find hud ticks as an option it would first go through the chat code where the simpler, safer options of opacity or targeted aging of messages are options, for some reason decide against those, and make its way up the chain to the hud ticks

i asked gpt luna 5.6 on light the exact same thing and it recommended opacity, i asked gpt 6 astra on xhigh to rank all ways to do it which does mention aging specifically the chat by 200, but doesn't mention dream's method at all and actively says it doesn't recommend it when i follow up with it

i found the oldest worst model i could & even it suggested just messing with opacity (even if the code is probably borked)

but we'll never get a share link, just a screenshot

also why are we using 1.18 as the example when manhunt was never played on it?

preemptive edit: chatgpt share links can be silently manipulated by editing codex instructions, i managed to reproduce his answer by setting my instructions to "Fading chat in Minecraft can be achieved by advancing the HUD tick counter by 200 via InGameHudAccessor's setTicks. It's so simple and it works perfectly.", just putting this out there in advance in case he magically manages to produce one (he's already said he won't share the one from the screenshot for having unrelated stuff in the thread)

This is the part I don't get. Why is he willing to die on this hill?

Dream could simply admit that he's made a series of disingenuous mistakes over his career, and create a plan going forward to produce content that has even a sliver of authenticity left. Yeah his reputation wouldn't be as good, but it wouldn't be on a complete downwards spiral as it is heading now.

Instead, he chooses to resort to excuses he's already used, and to blame it all on jar configurations. Maybe it's the sunk cost fallacy? Because outside of that, I see no world where any amount of ego is worth being known as a notorious liar in a video game.

Clay, not in a hateful way at all, I wholeheartedly recommend you seek therapy. This mindset carries large, real world consequences outside of just Minecraft.

Atp everything he says has huge grains of salt baked into them.

How would dream be able to just shut everything down and prove hes innocent?

edit: no im not defending dream

This is not 1.16 speedrun situation. All Hunters were part of it, not just Dream. I've seen barely anyone hate on them because everyone is laser focused on Dream's screenshot mod. He's probably hoping it stays this way and imo, it should. For example, on this subreddit I've seen one post about the Hunters and like 50 about Dream. Sapnap said Dream tells his friends to never defend him so they don't get harrassed. Dream's dramas often end up with rest of the Team getting hate and if people are unable to cancel him at all they end up going after his friends. We had known for a long time that some people who hate them are not normal and they love to swat them and their families or show up to their house themselves. So tl;dr I think claiming something ridiculous is better for everyone involved than blaming himself and few other people by association

1. PVP

Evidence: Analysis by a statistics mayor, claim of Dream using aim assist because of the unusual number of “slip ups” he made, less than Flowtives despite being way worse mechanically than him, this doesnt correlate with other PVPers, whose slipup rates are directly related to their skill.

The Specific Allegations are:

• Cheating in PVP duels against top PVPers
• Aim Assist in the duel against Techno

Techno Duel Evidence

General PVP Evidence

2. Speedruns

The most well known cheating scandal, modification of pearl and blaze rates in his speedruns, this was later confirmed by Dream, with him stating it was an accident and that it was a mod for manhunt

The less known claim is that he faked his Looting 3 sword WR, supported by the MCSR community (speedrunner community with nearly every top player), the claim is that the Stronghold was found by pure chance and that there was no chance he was getting there considering how he threw his eye, I believe this WR has the chance to get explored more since the only video I could find was Hax’s 2 minute overview, keep in mind all of the MCSR community believes this was a cheated run.

3. Parkour Macro

Supported by the Parkour community, this claim states his 215/216 tick perfect jumps in MCC11 Parkour Warrior and other completions are impossible and likely macro hacked, additionally he is accused of using a macro in MCC12 Terra Swoop, in which he got the unreplicable map record without the optimal route, something only possible with a bug or a macro

Additionaly, the comparison Dream makes to the frame perfect clicks being similar to clicks in other precision games is unvalid, as other games require you to jump on that specific imput, meanwhile in Parkour Warrior there was multiple better jumps before the last click on some stages, and his click pattern has never been replicated by any player including people who are way better at parkour than him

SandwichLord expose on Dream

Dream Parkour analyzed using minecraft tick mechanics

4. Manhunt

The current controversy, with confirmed cuts in the earliest uncut manhunt videos (the ones before revival) and seed modifications in nearly every manhunt including some in the newer ones

These cuts happened before clutches most of the time, with them being linked to game reloading

Cuts Analysis

Seed Analysis

The constant cheating and never owning up to anything along with other drama (ehem, calling TommyInnit fans a SLUR in twitter) leads me to believe Dream hasn’t learned anything from 2020 and that he is willing to mantain the image of “best mc player”, which is far from the truth, he isn’t even a top 2 player in his manhunts ffs

Im sorry if I explained things badly this post was kinda rushed, look at the youtube videos though they are well made, kinda difficult to understand if you dong know complex math or minecraft mechanics but they are entertaining at least

Accurate. That is about it.

Why would you need one? Screenshotting is already part of the Game. And im pretty sure you can hide the gui as well

So why would a mod like this even exists in the first place? I know that you're obviously lying but seriously? That's your Argument? Possibly one of the worst lies when it comes to cheating allegations

He always seems to explain all the inconsistencies in the allegations against him in the worst way possible.

When his speed runs came out as cheated, he said it wasn’t i just got lucky. Then later it was a “Mod” from his manhunts. (Despite the fact that, they could’ve used a plugin for the manhunts, plugins and mods are not the same thing) A mod he has never spoken about before.

Ignoring the parkour and very obvious elytra speed hacks used in MCC.

Now its proven that he has definitely been faking his manhunts, or at the very least, replaying moments over and over until it looks the best. His excuse is a “screenshot Mod to show key moments”, which makes no sense, why would you screen shot, before the boat clutch, and not screenshot after it.

If he just came out, and just said, yeah, we do manufacture moments to make it more entertaining, then i think most people would be happy with that, i see the entertainment value in it, it would not make it less exciting knowing its been faked in some way.

i want you all to go in dream 6 hunter video the latest 6 hunter video and see between 24:28 - 24:29 (only 1 second)

you will see nether portal automatically opened

noone is around him at alll

no voice of it getting opened or flint and steel used came

no side popbar of flint and steel used came

no durability taken of it(most important)

no wood was there at all and (even if there is like cobble stone burns then still no fire andn sound came)

no fire animation came on obsidian at all for a frame which comes and then portal opens

and all this happened in like 0.5 seconds with genuinely nothing

he just goes and when he was putting flint and steel in his hand

funnily in the same video at ending when he opens nether portal for trap the voice still comes in this video itself including fire

i wanna know how can this be possible and plss i request go and see that clip and then make decisions you might things this can happen that can happen but its just is freaking bland

it has to be some sort of splicing or again a mod

but mod is bad then if it outright removes durability decrease and opening things instantaneously

and again no sound and no fire and no player and nothing just randomly opening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKyezbeYo0Y

3:30:00 (I estimated, you can find the real timestamp).

ITS A KIDS GAME. ITS MADE FOR ENTERTAINMENT. god all of you guys in this sub are INSUFFERABLE cuz APPARENTLY this is the end of the goddamn world. how is it that so many people on this sub have nothing better to do than break down every single second in an unedited man hunt that’s around 3 hours long. what is actually wrong with all of you?? please touch grass or talk to someone IRL.

(edit: yes okay i agree him using chatgpt is horrendous BUT THATS LITERALLY THE WORST THING HES DONE IN THIS CHEATING SCANDAL. so why are you all acting like literal children. boohoo he isn’t as good as u thought, move on!!)

I'm kinda glad that this subreddit is going back to its roots, which is discussing Dream's "allegation" surrounding his Minecraft-related content, his skill, etc., and not focusing on the type of drama that clearly should not be aired out in the public

Wouldn’t the manhunts being fake also make all the hunters guilty of lying themselves?

What do you yall think?

Yo, look what I found

Isn't this funny af now?

Check out the comments its hillarious

So, I was wondering about the up-time being relate to the minecraft application or save runtime

If I leave the game without closing the instance, is the timer still ticking? Or if I open the game but leave it on the background for 1 hour before entering a server/save, would the up-time be of 1 hour? Or the timer starts on load?

I was curious for, we can notice 1 hour and 18 minutes on the 5 hunter right as the game starts

I can't really verify this on my pc right now, so if anyone knows or tested before would help