r/Dodgers • • 15h ago

Alex Call calls out broadcasters for suggestive advertisement during games.

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u/Dr-Acula8472 Back-2-Back Champs 13h ago

The only reason he hasn't is because he was an asshole. Both him & Shoeless Joe need to go in. But Beltran gets to go in because he kissed massive amounts of ass. Give me a break.

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u/solariam 11h ago

He bet on his team while managing the team and raped a teenager but sure

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u/a_smart_brane Andrew Toles 13h ago

No, MLB knew that Pete fucked a 14 year-old girl. So all parties agreed that Pete doesn’t get into the HOF, and MLB doesn’t let out that Pete fucked a 14 year old.

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u/VeniceDrumGuy 13h ago

I think if Pete had been less of an a-hole and showed even a modicum of contrition, he would’ve gone in.

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u/Dr-Acula8472 Back-2-Back Champs 12h ago

For sure. He was his own worst enemy.

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u/El-Whiskey Sandy Koufax 10h ago

Wait what

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u/Mr_Seremet 8h ago

He absolutely did. Look it up. More people need to know about that. Pete Rose was not just a gambling degenerate.

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u/Dr-Acula8472 Back-2-Back Champs 13h ago

Cap Anson was the whole reason the color barrier exists and he's in the hall of fame, OJ Simpson murdered two people and his bust is still in Canton, Ohio, Babe Ruth was a drunken whoremonger, the recently-inducted Andruw Jones is a wifebeater. If you start barring people from the hall-of-fame for non-sports related reasons, you're basically only going to be able to induct 5 guys at most, all-time.

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u/El-Whiskey Sandy Koufax 10h ago

I don't see why being a drunken whoremonger would be a bar?

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u/Spirited-Cry1783 Los Angeles Dodgers 10h ago

I mean, just because OJ's bust is in Canton doesn't mean it should be

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u/a_smart_brane Andrew Toles 13h ago

Settle down. I’m not barring anyone from shit. I’m only saying how the agreement went down, get it?

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u/FaithlessnessFar8574 9h ago

Shoeless Joe conspired to throw the World Series. And yes, he was 100% guilty, however his apologists try to spin it. It's an entirely different level of guilt. If he doesn't deserve a lifetime ban, nobody does.

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u/Dr-Acula8472 Back-2-Back Champs 8h ago

Yes because a then-record 12 hits, the only home run in that World Series are the actions of a guy trying to throw the series. \s

He only took the money because it was the mob in 1919 Chicago, and if he didn't, they'd have killed him. The actual guilty parties later admitted that Shoeless Joe was never involved in any of the meetings, and the "confession" was a bogus one the illiterate Jackson was made to sign by Comiskey's lawyer which was a clear conflict-of-interest, it should've been thrown out of court.

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u/FaithlessnessFar8574 7h ago

There's been a lot of debate as to when he collected his hits (not all the games were fixed, and he hit .286 in the games the Sox lost); he's also been suspected of playing poorly in the outfield and running the bases badly. But even if he did play exclusively to win, as he alleged, that just makes him a grifter who two-timed his fellow crooks. He was a massive liar, and nothing he said can be taken at face value.

The rest of your post is nonsense. Jackson confessed in detail in open court, and his fellow conspirators did not clear him. Here's a good overview of the facts:

https://sabr.org/journal/article/an-ever-changing-story-exposition-and-analysis-of-shoeless-joe-jacksons-public-statements-on-the-black-sox-scandal/

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u/Dr-Acula8472 Back-2-Back Champs 6h ago

So in other words, nothing but pure conjecture, and that confession should've been thrown out because of the conflict-of-interest of his legal counsel. False confessions are procured all the time, the idea of an illiterate man who left school to work before he was a teenager being some kind of machiavellian schemer is ridiculous. The only evidence against Jackson is pure statistical conjecture by jaded cynics like you. No smoking gun, bogus confession, not guilty.

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u/FaithlessnessFar8574 6h ago

ok, I guess you didn't bother to read the actual scholarship on the topic. bye,