In Sorcerer Supreme #10, the Extinction King weaponizes the imprisoned Vishanti into the Hexatomb which apparently is an anti-magic reactor. Its explosion destroys all magic in existence. Wanda, thrown into it, accelerates the blast with her chaos magic, then utters “More magic” to rekindle everything, including restoring the Vishanti, in a freer, more chaotic form without the old rules.

Now The broader Marvel continuity, the Vishanti (Oshtur, Hoggoth, Agamotto), are portrayed as principalities who act are patrons and defenders of Earth’s dimension.

They established the office of Sorcerer Supreme, grant power to those who invoke them, and maintain a degree of authority over ordered magic in that realm. The Sorcerer Supreme draws on them (and other entities) and polices threats in return. They are immensely powerful but not absolute, they are not the sole source of all magic across the multiverse, nor are they omnipotent. Other sources exist (chaos magic, Elder Gods like Chthon, other principalities, personal power, artifacts, etc). A Nexus being like Wanda has historically been able to operate outside or against many of these structures.

The problem is the sudden elevation of the Vishanti to linchpin of all magic. If Wanda could already reject their authority with chaos magic and function as a self-appointed Sorcerer Supreme (helping people, bending rules, expanding magic’s reach), then trapping or destroying them should not threaten the entire fabric of magic , including the chaos magic she continues to wield inside the Hexatomb. The story treats their imprisonment/weakening as creating a vulnerability the Extinction King exploits, which then risks total magical extinction. Yet her chaos magic both survives long enough to detonate the weapon and is potent enough to reboot the entire system afterward. So let me get this straight, She does not need their approval or power structure to act, but the order system they represent is so foundational to magic that rejecting/weakening it endangers everything magic, including the chaos magic she embodies? Then her chaotic power is so fundamental that it can unilaterally restore and reform all magic once the ordered pillars are gone?

Marvel’s magic has always been flexible and often retconned for the story at hand, so this is not unique. But in a run explicitly about redefining the Sorcerer Supreme role and the nature of magic itself, the lack of consistent boundaries around “endless possibilities” makes the hierarchy feel arbitrary and the climax less resonant. Wanda can do what she wants until the plot needs the Vishanti to matter cosmically, at which point they suddenly do,until her chaos overrides that too. The chain of command becomes incoherent. Is the Vishanti hierarchy so necessary, that even chaos magic depends on it, or is it so optional in that a Nexus can discard them? The run wants to have its cake and eat it too. When Wanda is claiming freedom and helping the everyday person her magic can do anything but then limits set in during an existential conclusion when the climax needs high stakes. Magic’s “endless possibilities” are invoked thematically , “anything’s possible” , but the plotting does not consistently manage the consequences of that freedom. If possibility is truly open ended, rejecting the Vishanti should not nearly delete magic; if the hierarchy is that load bearing, her earlier rejection should have had clearer, earlier costs rather than being framed primarily as righteous defiance until the finale.

Mine is either Defender Strange or the classic Blue Cape.

I just joined this sub reddit and saw a ton of comments talking about how the sub has a lot if criticism for Aaron's run. I personally loved it and

wanted to know why this is

I'm over Steve Orlando. I can't stand his constant retcons and boring stories or the way he degrades every other magical character for Wanda or to write the most dull stories imaginable. Is it too much to ask that he reads Dr Strange rather than using them as set dressing to boost up his fanfic version of Wanda? One of my favorite stories vs one of my least favorite stories. Give me Gillen or Ewing. Anyone but him.

I finished Sorcerer Supreme Issue#10, This issue by Steve Orlando makes me dislike Modern Scarlet Witch. She takes the role of Vishanti by force for affirmation, & ambition, nearly causes the death of magic, then claims The Vishanti & her are both to blame for magic dying.
We find out the real reason Wanda wanted this title wasn’t because the relics of the sorcerer supreme were calling to her , it was because she saw this role as an opportunity after a life of hardship. The issue with this is it makes every selfless act Wanda set out to do come off as egotistical, but the most damning thing about this run is she doesn’t need the title of sorcerer supreme to do any of this. She can use chaos magic to make people’s lives better as Scarlet Witch. Why would Scarlet Witch a Witch meant to represent chaos want the title of Sorcerer Supreme? An Enforcer Of Order , Rules & Structure.Agatha making the same points I made in the run tells me Steve understands the issue with this premise but misunderstood Wanda’s character.

Wanda using chaos magic to remake magic itself doesn’t land as much as it could because she caused this when she rejected The Vishanti but believes they’re equally responsible for judging her. Why wouldn’t they judge her? She claimed the title for herself out of arrogance. And I do mean it when I say arrogance, the fact that her being a Nexus allows Wanda to not be controlled by The Vishanti makes me question what’s the point of this entire run? Wanda isn’t beholden to the Vishanti & She didn’t need their title to do what she wanted. The ending of this comic feels like blind affirmation for Wanda by her kids & Darcy despite her being solely responsible for everything bad that transpired. It’s like Steve wants the reader to like Wanda or to show haters she’s here to stay, and I don’t know why.

Saying those who think it’s the end of scarlet witch don’t understand she represents possibility or something doesn’t make anyone like Wanda, you earn people’s approval with actions not words, saying we should root for Wanda because she represents anything’s possible will not help her character. If anything this only gives haters of her character more Ammo. I wouldn’t call myself a hater but this run really makes me debate being one, since Wanda can’t be written to do a sacrificial act without coming off egotistical and not the fun type of ego in Robert Downey Junior’s Portrayal of Tony Stark, the kind of ego that makes you not like a person. If her ego wasn’t so big Wanda could see SHE WAS THE PROBLEM. NOT THE VISHANTI. HER. There’s nothing heroic about wanting a position of power or title because your life hasn’t been the best and you see an opportunity for yourself & your vision of the world. Wanda comes off entitled for a role she clearly didn’t deserve.

This run could’ve been more interesting than what we got. Why not do a story where Wanda took this title not because The Eye Of Agamotto called to her, instead she claims it for herself because Stephen is missing and Wanda believes the world needs a sorcerer supreme until he returns. The conflict between her and The Vishanti could’ve been her seeking them out for the title so she could take things over with Stephen gone and Doom no longer holding it but The Vishanti reveal after Strange traded his title to Doom without their approval they viewed as an insult of the highest order from human and decided all earths across the multiverse & humanity as a species will go without a sorcerer supreme, that magic on earths everywhere will no longer have a supreme authority to maintain order when the dark forces rise.

This would make Wanda’s critique of these Higher Forces, Claiming The Role for herself and Rejection Of The Vishanti more justified than Wanda doing it because she needed a break. This could also make her decision to claim the title by force and reject The Vishanti hit harder if the story wants to portray both the actions of Wanda & Vishanti nearly cause the death of all magic in the long run. You could even include Wanda feeling she was judged unfairly by The Vishanti because she’s the scarlet witch, an individual known as a harbinger of chaos who causes problems when all she wanted was to take up the responsibilities of a friend who’s been there for her in the past, and help maintain order in the magic world for everyday people despite her chaotic nature. This wouldn’t be because Wanda personally desires rules or structure especially in magic, it be her putting herself aside to maintain the bigger picture but Steve making her motivations born of selfish thought doesn’t fit an story where she seeks a role that maintains rules. Wanda not wanting to be judged because she’s trying to clean her own name , and turn her life around as someone who does acts of selflessness & generosity is hard to portray when she’s motivated by what could make her life better before what could make the world better. How is Oshtur wrong for viewing her as another Doom that sought greed when Wanda admitted she rejected them as a nexus because she felt they were judging her? That type of behavior only works for Wanda’s character if she IS that flawed & Oshtur was correct to disprove of Wanda grabbing the title and dismissing The Vishanti. It feels like Steve is trying to tell two different stories with the run that don’t fit properly without readjusting.

Establishing she sought this position to help everyday people with their problems doesn’t make sense if she didn’t need to be sorcerer supreme to do those things. The Vishanti not being able to control her implies she doesn’t need their title or power for her plans of helping people all over the world with chaos magic. Does Wanda need the Vishanti’s Earth Sorcerer Supreme position or not? Her fighting so hard for something she doesn’t need to do anything she sets out to comes off as her just wanting a title of status which isn’t a good look if the comic wants us to root for her, the issue in the end is this entire run makes no sense.

I've read "season one", then I read "the oath", and now I'm working my way through the 2015 series and I'm on issue 12.

One of the full stories of Doctor Strange I've read is the Last Days of Magic arc (it's mostly a good series) and I understand it introduces the concept that magic has terrible consequences and that it affects the user or anyone who are magically connected to the user like the Tibetan monks, but now that run has ended, and new stories are coming out of Strange, I don't see Strange having to really suffer when using magic or I don't see him eating magical creatures or something

So I was wondering, is it still Canon or like is it still around and the writers are simply not showing that side of magic anymore

I also want to add that even if the Last Days of Magic is a controversial story for Doctor Strange, I still enjoyed the introduction of Mr. Misery, like I genuinely enjoy the concept of him and idk maybe I'd like to see him in a future run

So Doctor Strange's 2026 run ended and I have to say it was all right, the characters introduced were interesting in their own right, can't really say much about them

But the ending with Strange and Angela going back to Midgard, do you think they will appear in Thor's comic run and bring Asgard back to being part of the Ten Realms, or will Doctor Strange join the fight in Avengers Armageddon

I'm hoping for Strange and Clea to be back together and fight alongside one another, which made me just remember, what will Strange think about Clea's adventures with Moon Knight

I really did like this by the way, I get why people say read Englehart

I saw that there is a new Marvel book coming out as and you can see from the picture, it is called “Sorcerer Supreme” and it asks who should step up to have the mantle. I don’t read Dr. Strange but I do plan on getting to, but I do know that this isn’t the first time Strange had lost the title of Sorcerer Supreme and had to work to get it back. How often does this happen cause it’s not the first time? I know most recently that he gave up the title to Dr. Doom to defeat vampires and that led to One World Under Doom and Strange left Earth to become Sorcerer Supreme of Asgard. Seeing as OWUD is ending, this is a follow up to that event where Doom will lose his title as SS and the hole has to be taken and I’m guessing Strange is too busy in Asgard. But to the original question, how often does Strange lose the title of SS and are you exhausted of this story best?

In other hands, I think this concept could have easily be badly bungled and ruined Clea

I'm sorry, but I need to get this off my chest.

I don't want to read Al Ewing's Thor. At least not right now. Maybe once it's finished and some time has passed, I will. But for now? Yeah, I'm too fucking angry to read that book.

And before anyone says anything, I realize this is not the fault of Al Ewing. And I never said it was. But the way editorial has bent over backwards to not only let Al tell his story, while not only fucking over Stephen, but also Derek Landy? That makes me angry and resentful. Especially if Al's continuing his Thor book in a new relaunch where I have to wait even LONGER for Stephen to go home to his hot awesome wife instead of paling around with Angela!

So, I'm sorry. I know people are going to tell me I'm missing out, I don't care.

This may come as a shock to anyone new to my blog, but I. Don't. Read. Marvel. For. Thor.

I read Marvel for Doctor Strange.

I fell in love with Doctor Strange.

Fell in love with his world. HIs supporting cast. His personality and life.

Why am I being punished by editorial for liking a character?

Why did they take Stephen's life away from him!

Why did they take my comfort character away from me!?

Why did they do it!?

Because Al ewing had a story he wanted to tell!?

Because Editorial just like to torture people!

Fuck all of you!

The storyline picks up with Stephen Strange feeling something strange and different about magic. The first thing he does is go to reclaim his vestments and gain guidance from the Vishanti abt how to fix magic, only to encounter the Vishanti praising the Scarlet Witch for her “liberation” of magic across all reality.

Stephen Strange gets suspicious. He’s been unable to track Maximoff anywhere. He feels magic is cursed and twisted now, lacking the order that once made his spellcraft important. Now it’s unpredictable, tainted by “chaos.” Since Oshtur was, by her own words, “remade” by Wanda, he believes she is somehow trapped under her spell:

Strange*: “Aren’t you Oshtur!? Mother of Mysticism!? What kind of mother watches their child die? She would have never let this happen!”*

Oshtur*: “I am reborn, liberated by the Scarlet Witch. No longer rigid—suffocated underneath the iron fist. It was all going to be destroyed. Maximoff, as Sorcerer Supreme, paid the price.”*

Strange*: “MAGIC has paid the price! [blah blah blah you get it. He explains that Maiximoff is the one that got them into that mess anyway with the Extinction King due to her attacking and wounding the Vishanti]*

Basically the whole plot is he believes magic is cursed now, and the Vishanti, Wong, everyone is praising Wanda for her actions and he believes they’re all trapped under her spell.

The entire arc is about him investigating and undoing it, while having to adjust to the lawlessness of using the new magic.

What's your favorite cover art? Mine is personally Mark Waid's Vol. 2, cos I love the cosmic style of Strange

Like, both of them seem chill with each other in modern comics, and he was at Tiboro and Umar’s wedding. But in Steve Orlando’s Sorcerer Supreme, he suddenly had Dormammu hunting for Umar’s kid to drain her power... It felt weird to me, ’cause I don't see a reason Dormammu would do that to his sister, and it would just backfire on him. I mean, everyone was badly characterized in that book, so whatever.

Interesting ideas....that feel speed rushed and so never full developed to their full potential. I didn't need a 1000 page brick, but at the same time, maybe just a little bit more to better flesh out.