r/ArcRaiders • • 12h ago

Discussion Im seeing loads of griefers in pve

I suppose they’re children. Since I play solo it wasn’t a problem to me except for the loot being stolen before I won the fight. It needs to be balanced somehow.

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u/ishouldbeworking35 12h ago

hey but you came prepared. good shit

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u/WASTELAND_RAVEN 10h ago

I’d also like to point out that the griefers are just that, griefers, those are not the boogeyman “PvPers” this sub rages on lol.

Griefers are always there to grief and have been here since Speranza was young. 💕

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u/-Noskill- 10h ago

griefing in pve is probably better for them as they can't get clapped by players when they pull their shit.

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u/56473829110 6h ago

PVE has created a Safe Space fof griefers. 

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u/Patient_Pea5781 3h ago

yeah because the mode is half backed and it does not consider the overall toxicity of the playerbase

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u/Justhe3guy 2h ago

Dude it just came out in beta, there's some things to be patched obviously

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u/WASTELAND_RAVEN 9h ago

Bingo! 🎯

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u/MrAsh- 9h ago

Thank you!

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u/TrenchDive 9h ago

Let's just say we can't unequivocally say there are or aren't PvPers coming to grief. However, the community did see multiple 'pvp' players say they would be greifing during the test. That's why I think your seeing alot of that. No matter what, a griefer is an asshole.

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u/WASTELAND_RAVEN 9h ago

I actually agree with you 100% on this, and you put the point very plainly I appreciate that.

Obviously, there’s some crossover, but this community by and large loves to blame bogeymen, remember when the game first came out, and everyone called every single person doing any kind of PVP a rat, lol.

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u/Addwolves 8h ago

I think it’s because arc is a lot of peoples first extraction experience so it took a while for them to know whats a rat or not a rat

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u/BSchafer 8h ago

PvE a wet dream for griefers and rats. Griefers can’t be silenced or killed and Rats don’t have to wait around around forever to get easy loot in a risk free manner 😂

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u/Kagamid 5h ago

It doesn't really matter in PVE. There's an easy counter for everything so they're grief attempts are just minor annoyances. In PVPVE these people would still be there anyway. Except they'd be shooting you at extraction and talking trash until you die. I'll take the PVE griefers.

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u/Blood_ForTheBloodGod 9h ago edited 7h ago

Is this actually categorized as griefing though? I know it’s not ideal, but this is well within the acceptable gameplay loop.

The goal here doesn’t have to be “ruining your experience” the goal could just be to let you do the hard work, and then get you killed by ARC.

I would imagine I’m in the minority, but that seems like acceptable gameplay to me.

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u/WASTELAND_RAVEN 9h ago

It’s not actually griefing, no. It is completely allowed in the scope of the game, anyone saying anything the contrary is out of their fucking mind. It’s a video game.

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u/Oldpanther86 8h ago

Here i am learning i can farm arc off in a secluded part of the map now by throwing an item at myself.

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u/Addwolves 8h ago

Like the scouts lol. A cloak and 5 seeker grenades for emergency i always bring

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u/grimmigerpetz 12h ago

tbh I only use the pve toggle for missions or trials. Normal runs are done in normal servers and it seems I am still deep in care bear lobby, cause no one shot me in 8 matches so far.

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u/AbsolutelyNotAPossum 11h ago

Agree that it's been useful to get more missions off the board.

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u/unknownguy777 11h ago

Yeah solo is still normal. I think only modes that changed are trio and duos

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u/ChshireCat 10h ago

If nobody shot you in 8 matches, why do you need a PVE toggle for missions or trials? do that in normal matches.

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u/Nknights23 7h ago

If PvE is supposedly so boring, why are some people investing their time in finding increasingly elaborate ways to harass the people playing it?

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u/oddknight8 5h ago

The rats have nowhere else to go. They’ll get slimed if they boot up a PvPvE lobby

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u/Chesse_cz 6h ago

Because no one will punish them and its way too easy to earn loot without any significant risk.

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u/paralyzedmime 3h ago

It’s almost like it was always about the harassment for them.

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u/Gramscifi 4h ago

Because some people are fucking weirdos enjoy griefing? How does that have anything to do with the entertainment value of actual pve gameplay, what an ass-backwards argument.

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u/Streak1991 1h ago

Because it allows griefing with no consequences.

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u/_Coffie_ 2h ago

You mistaken that people who want PvE are all friendly players. You already know a lot of people wanted PvE to abuse low risk loot

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u/Not_Like_The_Others_ 5h ago

Some people see this as the only fun thing about pve

It is essentially griefers paradise

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u/JimiusRostock 12h ago

I thought PvE would be cool. But it's just a lot of loot goblins hanging around my kills.

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u/Halio344 11h ago

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. People have been saying this for months whenever anyone asks for a PvE mode.

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u/Patient_Pea5781 4h ago

If the devs don t know their toxic audience and they just halfassing a pve mode this is the result, also dont forget the toxic pvp players who want to make a point against pve

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u/Halio344 1h ago

Most PvPvE players aren’t protesting by sabotaging. This happens in literally every MP game, regardless if it’s PvE or PvP.

People are just assholes and like ruining things for others and/or doing everything they can to get easy loot, it has nothing to do with them being upset about a new mode.

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u/ser_deleted 10h ago

No different than before :/

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u/Kwowolok 6h ago

Before I could kill them

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u/Kagamid 5h ago

And they could kill you so you lose more than your loot, you lost all your gear. Much better? 🤷‍♂️

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u/Addwolves 8h ago

The mode is actually bad. People hoover up loot faster then i can press the button lol, no one talks

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u/ThePoop_Accelerates 6h ago

No reason to talk

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u/Extension_Pumpkin516 11h ago

You’re too naive brother

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u/SnowballWasRight 8h ago

This is my biggest problem with the PvE mode.

In regular friendly games you can have some hierarchy of who gets what. Idk how it rolls with everyone but if someone carries a kill they get the main arc piece unless they give it to somebody else. Or for queen/matriarch kills everyone will get at least one or two reactors but the guys who did the best will get the majority.

And it works!! Why? Because if someone comes running in trying to vulture something, I’m going to fucking shoot them to keep the peace lmao. Not that hard.

Turns out, violence does solve a lot of peaceful problems.

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u/ImmaBeAWhiteGuy 9h ago

Damn, I wonder if anyone predicted this would happen but then got shut down by all the people who swear PVE would be the greatest thing ever

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u/Same-Pickle-9628 11h ago

That’s the new risk unfortunately. It’s better than getting shot in the back and losing everything though.

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u/merkmerc 11h ago

Wait til they find out PvE is where griefers thrive because you can’t do anything to stop them

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u/Chance_Account_4338 8h ago

But griefing in PVE is so much less satisfying, all you're doing is waiting around for loot or trying to use the silly bullrush perk to knock people out. Maybe throw up some walls to be annoying.

They'll get tired of that a lot sooner than they did before. They don't get the same orgasmic relief of ganking friendlies in the back when they've dropped their guard. You can only throw up a barricade so many times before it gets boring.

I'll gladly take that over the griefing and toxicity that caused many of us to game the silly ABMM system to avoid that.

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u/HardcoreHope 11h ago

Shouldn't you be thanking pve for taking most of them out of pvpve?

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u/Dr_Watson349 10h ago

Normal carebear lobby has been fucking amazing.

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u/Hillenmane 9h ago

Glad to hear it. Gonna log back in and do some solo runs with the chill raiders again. I was worried PvE was going to make my carebear lobbies harder to trust, so I’ve been avoiding them… I have keys and Frigates to run

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u/SleepDivision 8h ago

In pve that's our loot comrade 🖖👽

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u/merscever 2h ago

i have played close to 40 pve matches on eu, every map condition. the only grief i encountered was someone pulliing a shredder on me when i was downed which is fair game i deserved it for dying to arc in pve

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u/PeeCeeJunior 8h ago

I’m the most PvE player ever and I love the idea of throwing snitches to sow chaos. It’s a whole lot easier to deal with that than someone shooting you in the back.

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u/ParticularBanana8369 2h ago

"Why are you just standing there???" i scream at my phone in the back of the uber

"Oh wow. It's all good. It's all good, he's got the cloak."

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u/The_Raigar 9h ago

What game do you hardcore PvE guys even want to play at this point? Like genuinely the game you’re proposing more and more isn’t arc raiders at all. I’m not even a PvP player, I just don’t get this

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u/MajinAnonBuu 8h ago

MMORPG but Arc raiders lol

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u/TheAlexperience 9h ago

They want to play single player. Idk why they cant admit it.

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u/The_Raigar 9h ago

Honestly before I saw that this post was negative I thought “hey that’s a good idea to keep people from stealing loot”, but it’s obvious now that there’s a lot of people who just want solo mode

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u/TheItchyWalrus 4h ago

Someone on this sub actually suggested PvE should be a solo experience where each person gets their own server to themselves and I couldn’t help but feel like, “brother, what are we we doing?”

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u/Zombi3Kush 7h ago

I've been recommending Horizon Zero Dawn to PVE players. It's a fun game with "Arcs" and you dont have to worry about other people in the game bothering you.

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u/Addwolves 4h ago

I play solo care bear lobbies and pvp duo. I personally wanted it to be like the 100s of cool experiences had with randoms in the game without the getting shot in the back part but there no tension in the pve mode . Its full of people just grabbing loot and the occasional experience like the video

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u/MITBryceYoung2 8h ago

The funniest part about this is all the PVP players are still .. pvping in lobbies and looting. While the PVE finally got the paradise they wanted and realized its actually hell.

The threat of being killed forced cooperating, it made the thrill better, it made comms better. It was never the PvPers ruining games it was literally people being scummy rats lmao.

So funny watching people realize PVE was always going to be an issue

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u/Vegetable_Walrus_508 6h ago

While the PVE finally got the paradise they wanted and realized its actually hell.

Speak for yourself I’m enjoying it

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u/mistameow 8h ago

They want a friendship looting simulator

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u/SnowballWasRight 8h ago

Yeah, the forced cooperation is like the entire fun of the PvE experience. Knowing “damn I could just shoot this guy in the head right now and everyone else could be ready to turn on me” is such a fun premise for a game. The uneasiness in people’s voices when they try and shout friendly is something else sometimes 😭😭😭😭

That’s when you can tell they’ve got a good loadout and shoot them in the back lol. Sorry man not my fault I saw you had a full kit.

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u/Asleep-Science-5360 8h ago

lol actually it's a fun premise. Reminds me of The Division when you put it that way

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u/Xbrand182x 8h ago

I’m honestly glad they did PvE to shut them up finally…only for them to complain about their own playerbase 🤦‍♂️. This subreddit was so annoying with “pvp” player slander. The posts then included asshole PvE players. PvP players are a different breed. Now they have a game mode with those same players they thought were “PvP” players and nothing really changed except those asshole players have no repercussions now lol

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u/BlaineMundane 8h ago edited 8h ago

It's a different game than the PVP version but to be honest, Arc Raiders will die pretty quickly without it. PvE always adds time. PvP is unacceptable to a huge audience. PvP is the best for a huge audience too, but when that one starts showing up less, you invite PvE.

PvP players move on pretty quick sometimes... er, or they're die hard for life. Hard to tell sometimes.

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u/TheSodomizer00 12h ago

It's interesting how this is not an issue at all in friendly PvPvE ABMM lobbies.

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u/Von_Schlagel 11h ago

Freedom from consequence. People don’t pull this shit in PvPvE cuz they might get shot in the face.

It turns out “get shot in the face” is a good deterrent.

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u/ftqo 11h ago

Also because... they can just shoot others rather than using snitch scanner.

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u/MERS_206 11h ago

Potential consequences for sure, but ABMM is also a big part of it. The matchmaking tailors your experience and places you with similar mentality players. Its a two pronged filtration system that lets you customize your experience while also allowing you not to be a complete doormat

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u/SharkyShoe 11h ago

This but it also seems like a lot of PVPers and general rats are using PvE to loot up despite their incessant complaining about a PvE toggle

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u/Babefly1 9h ago

do you have any proof for that?

this feels like an excuse to shield from the fact that the so much demanded PvE mode has exactly the same issues as everyone told these epeople beforehand.

people are shitty, yes even PvE players, free loot will always incentivice people to be shitty.

the illusion that PvE players are the better people was made up, it was so obviously made up that i thought it to be a community joke the first few times ive read it but no people actually thought that.

one of the main reasons to play PvE was free loot and now its even more free.

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u/ryavco 8h ago

Can you define rat for us?

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u/-ConMan- 11h ago

You think out of the thousands of people on this sub every day that the handful of people who said oh I can use pve to loot up for pvp are the same ones who are strongly against it?

Yeah that’s right you sussed it, literally the same people 🤡

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u/Inquisitor-Korde 11h ago

That's because they'll just fucking shoot you instead, the peeps that will do this will also do similar in friendly lobbies. They're just more direct.

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u/vroomvroom12349 8h ago

There is a way to stop someone from stealing your loot but you won't like the answer...

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u/KraddyOP 3h ago

It's the players who are too scared to PvP but too lazy to PvE. So they sabotage in hopes to get free kits/loot.

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u/casualfanatic 1h ago

I've been playing a lot of PvE on European servers and have yet to come across any griefing

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u/TheYoungJake0 7h ago

I have met so many nice people in PvP (keep in mind I don’t engage in PvP a lot so obviously the matchmaking puts me in certain lobbies). Just yesterday I was looking for a toaster and someone actually went and found one and came back to me and he didn’t accept a reward. It was on blue gate so if that was you, shout out you. Genuinely so many friendly people on PvP in my experience. All I do is ask if someone is friendly when I see them and legit 98% of the time they are and don’t attack

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u/Dry-Paramedic-6265 7h ago

They're is always some rats bro. Not 95% 😂

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u/SprayInevitable6821 6h ago

Yeah I'm so tired of the toxic anti PVPer sentiment that is rampant on this subreddit. Yeah I go into a lot of duos/trios blood thirsty and squads respond accordingly. But I also have so many wholesome interactions where if we communicate sometimes we'll happily go our separate directions, team up, help one another, stand up for each other, defib someone from a diff squad, etc.

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u/oExtremo 10h ago

i am the only one that finds this fun? on both sides.

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u/SeverusSnapesLeftNip 11h ago

What did yall expect

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u/hallROCK 11h ago

Looks like they're playing the game. Using game mechanics. Whats the problem?

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u/Babefly1 9h ago

they play it in a different way.
i know this sounds like something PvE players usually like but the catch is that they only like it when they are the ones playing differently and when theire playstyle is the one being catered to.
"whats the problem with PvE? we just want to enjoy playing the game a different way" they said for a year.
no they have PvE and they are still unhappy because there are people who enjoy the game differently than they do and they cant do shit against it.
they fucking hate it when other people play differently.

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u/Babefly1 9h ago

this is exactly what people told yall would happen.

"i want muh friendly PvE lobbies where nobody can shoot anyone"
here are your friendly PvE lobbies where nobody can shoot anyone
"noooooo! people are griefing!!! they take MY loot (it isnt yours until its in your pack) and i cant do anything!!! please fix ebmark!!!!"

the fix is playing PvPvE and shooting them

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u/Spoozk *** ******* 11h ago

Seriously though what do you do to combat this?

Prevent people from using snitch scanners? Implement another matchmaking algorithm like ABMM but for cooperation score I guess?

The bull rush thing is an easy fix but I don't think you can fix the players themselves, you just have to endure them until they get bored

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u/air_and_space92 9h ago

If I was playing pvpve no one would be trolling with scanners because they would've just shot me in the first place. Let's be real, these people are trolling because there's nothing worse they can do in this mode. You know how people body blocked doors and demanded money and everyone said "that's what pve gets you", "normally you could've shot him". Multiple times I had people down me only to demand items for a revive and to take all my guns so I could be a loot mule to extract where they'd kill me anyhow. Being able to shoot back doesn't change how these players operate, just changes out 1 tool for another.

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u/pantyfire 3h ago

Yup the ‘just shoot them’ replies are utter nonsense.
If this was the normal mode. They would’ve either shot the OP as he was looting or thrown the snitch scanners and also shot the OP.
At least in the PvE mode the OP isn’t dead and lost everything.

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u/BOOGIE_MAN-X 8h ago edited 8h ago

Did you not see the cloaking device he used? That literally solved the problem in 2 seconds… Then just run your own stack of lures in addition to the cloak. Problem solved! Then the cherry ontop is seekers boom arc issue no more.

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u/FOREVERDIVI 6h ago

Boogie man gets it. Make this man into a broze statue and display it in speranza

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u/BerugaBomb 10h ago

Prevent people from using snitch scanners? Implement another matchmaking algorithm like ABMM but for cooperation score I guess?

Nah, that should stay in. Raiders should just bring in lures or cloaks like op did. Bonus points, throw the lure at that guys that threw the snitches.

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u/Dry-Cucumber3932 1h ago

Tbh the solution is to fund education and social/public mobility so people don’t turn out like the ones that are doing this

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u/EntertainerKnown2054 10h ago

Snitch scanner trolling is very easy to defend against its the bullrush people that is harder to deal with.

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u/corey_cobra_kid 9h ago

You prevent this from happening by shooting the people who try to steal from you

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u/Redd_tModsSuckAss 11h ago

Shoot them... oh wait

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u/TheRealShiftyShafts 10h ago

You go back into pvpve and shoot problem characters

The solution was baked into the original game but yalls got up in your feelies about it

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u/Gamble_Paychecks 9h ago

In this situation, if it was normal mode, the "griefer" would have just shot this person while they were busy looting... they would have lost their loadout and the bully loot... vs losing some of the bully loot and keeping the loadout.

I literally do not see the issue here in this situation in pve mode, looks like it's working as intended. Who said pve mode has to be grief-free? What exactly are you people crying about?

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u/BABOOWIE 8h ago

Just play the normal game mode and actually shoot people lmao, stop trying to come up with solutions to problems that you all created

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u/Spoozk *** ******* 7h ago

Don't rope me into PvE only club man, I think PvPvE is absolutely the way to go, I just wanted to get people brainstorming some ideas for how it could work. This is a test after all, and tests need feedback to operate properly

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u/BigGrinJesus 9h ago

They won't get bored.

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u/Branphlayx 8h ago

I think you’re right. There are definitely people who find the fun in downing others who can’t really fight back

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u/ButterscotchLivid377 1h ago

You know how you can fight back? By playing PvP.

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u/Sarhey 9h ago

Losers will be losers was truth

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u/BSchafer 10h ago

Some people just want everything handed to them with little effort while taking almost no risk. They don't realize how lame and bored they would be with the game if they even got their wish (although these devs are trying their hardest to make it happen, lol)

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u/OpticalPrime35 10h ago

You literally just described " PvPers " in this game

Wanting someone else to go out and get all the loot for them while they sit around waiting to kill the person before they can exfil

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u/Promature 10h ago

I'll take PvE griefers over regular game griefers. Keep some Arc summons in your inventory and make them work for it.

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u/MikeHammer364 9h ago

Yeah I always have cloak and lures, seekers, etc. This sucks but it's manageable and (in my experience) still pretty rare so far.

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u/Hackfraysn 9h ago

This is a extraction shooter genre problem and not exclusive to the PvE mode.

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u/dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex 8h ago

its not a "problem" at all, its a feature. part of the game.

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u/SpiccyDropMag 6h ago

It’s actually just a problem with people in general, this proves that no matter what you do people will try to find ways to ruin other people’s fun.

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u/blue0231 9h ago

It’s me! I throw lures at people and shove them when extracting.

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u/DanicaHamlin 11h ago

PVE only works in these types of games when the raids are client side.

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u/NaivMelodie 5h ago

The mistake of this game was making us believe that everyone was friendly; personally, I think it's the only extraction shooter where I've seen this type of behavior. I'm a regular player of Hunt: Showdown, which has more intense PvP than this game, and there everyone knows they should shoot every player they see.

Ultimately, what made Arc Riders famous will be what kills it in the long run, unless in the future they prevent players from looting dead players, perhaps then they will lose interest.

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u/StrongestVersion_ 55m ago

I think this is exactly it. Extraction shooters are not supposed to be friendly. There is a constant threat of someone killing you to grab the loot you worked hard for. The nice encounters are usually very little.

That being said, Arc misses some essential gameplay for being a dedicated extraction shooter. They're kind of in the middle.

The community seems to be wanting a 'PvP friendly extraction shooter' or PvE like Helldivers.

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u/Narrow-Opportunity90 28m ago

Exactly, it’s literally in the name of the game mode, PvPvE. The unpredictability.

Most PvE players don’t even want a PvE mode with other players, sounds like they truly want a single player looter shooter simulator.

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u/Sp0range 1h ago

"The game" never made people think they were friendly at all. It was a subsect of players not used to the extraction shooter genre who refused to engage with the pvp systems and then used social pressure to shame and punish those who did.

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u/Electrical_Win9025 4h ago

Ive never heard of hunt. Plenty of people play?

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u/NaivMelodie 4h ago

We could say it's a niche game, but its community is quite active.

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u/SlipperyBaconBooger 4h ago

not as much as like cod or OW or other fast paced games. Small community, but a great community nonetheless.

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u/ResponsibilityDry854 10h ago

You have to take the good with the bad; we have been begging for a PVE mode. Let's give Embark time to work out the kinks before throwing in the towel and giving the rats exactly what they want!

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u/Ckomop0x 8h ago

I just switched back to normal and it’s a complete enjoyment now - looters are in PvE and shooters in PvP, so normal mode is ideally balanced.

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u/Sunbro1992 8h ago

Op and other people posting about it are making a point about people behaving antisocially. There's literally nothing wrong about that. Defending it or turning a blind eye, on the other hand, is weird at the bare minimum.

Now that pve exists there's simply no excuse like it used to. No that's how people want to play their game, no nothing. Before, it was friendly players in a de facto pvp lobby, so murdering them and then saying it's a pvpve game works. Now it's a dedicated pve lobby, and they're going out of their way to get in, grief and still be the norm? Sorry brothers and sisters, you got it wrong.

People actively want to be rats, ruin another person's game, they still have pvp to do all that and more but they're choosing to go in lobbies that literally can't defend against it. This is just antisocial behavior and it's healthy even to make a point, if not an example out of it in the future. I don't know how it could be eliminated, I hope it will be in the future, but it's a game and if it can have options for everyone to play, it should.

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u/IveFailedMyself 7h ago

So the way you phrased your first couple sentences has me confused. Are you saying it's totally fine and normal to be antisocial or are you saying it's totally fine and normal to talk about people being antisocial?

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u/Sunbro1992 7h ago

I'm sorry, I'm not a native English speaker but I thought it would work how I put it. I meant the latter. There's this backlash and a tendency to ridicule people that call these matters out, calling them crybabies and all sorts of things. Nothing new, I know, attention whoring through edgyness.

I just made this comment cause I feel the superficial exchange of insults doesn't really call things what they are.

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u/IveFailedMyself 7h ago

Well, then I agree with you.

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u/DeathsOrphan 7h ago

Exactly lol these people are just weirdos.

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u/itsNurf 11h ago

Downed a few times from arc or just dumb decision making. Players dont seem to carry defibs on them anymore..... just like to watch you bleed out.

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u/Durzel 11h ago

A Wolfpack would’ve been awesome there.

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u/ELStoker 10h ago

Had this happen twice today. I just tossed a few smoke grenades and kept looting.

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u/Ch33s3Wilson 9h ago

I just wanna say there’s an achievement on steam for downing a player w arc you summoned personally - this being done w the snitch scanner

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u/Adjunctified 8h ago

I haven’t ran into any yet. Sure there are toxic players who are salty their easy kills are gone and they’re going into grief but there just are that many of them and their effect is diluted by every new PvE player.

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u/farmerKev420710 8h ago

To be fair that was the equivalent of killing a bastion then looting the legs first. People listen for the bully and run like little goblins. Out of the last 10 ive killed I only got to loot one by myself. People rarely help make the kill, but for sure ran for that middle piece first. Here's the PvE mode and the reasons people said it would suck 🤷‍♂️

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u/Enefelde 7h ago

Wait until you learn about skulker turrets 😂

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u/Decent-Cold-9471 9h ago

Not me. PVE mode has been fantastic. I’m sure it’s happening to some degree, but I haven’t seen it personally. Loving it.

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u/No_Ingenuity4000 11h ago

Assholes going to ass, and some people are bound and determined to ruin PvE with the magical thinking it will push people back to PvPvE. Just report and move on, really.

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u/PrimetimeKnight 11h ago

I hate loot goblins as much as the next guy but I'm not really sure I agree with reporting someone for having questionable ethics.

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u/bunk3rk1ng 11h ago

Mom! They made me pve in my pve mode!

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u/NoNouns 11h ago

Now it'll turn into how you guys don't want a single person on the map just you vs arc

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u/TheHeadLessAng 10h ago

So now you all are complaining about the loot being stolen ? Hahahahahaahah just say you all want a single player at this point hahaahah

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u/RelativeHour869 11h ago

Hay gente que solo se divierte molestando a los demás, que triste.

Hoy un grupo estubo campeando el punto de extracción en el nuevo mapa y no dejaban hacer extracción, se ponían a empujar a los que querían extraer, después de un rato supongo que se aburrieron y se fueron.

La partida iba a la mitad así que no le dí importancia pero si van con equipo gratuito y se ponen a empujar hasta que se acabe el tiempo podría fastidiar a más de uno.

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u/sirhcx 10h ago

PvPvE has Rats

PvE has Roaches

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u/Sorry_Exit7379 10h ago

Humans are the worst part of the game.

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u/dericiouswon 10h ago

I checked out for a while. When I saw pve mode, I just assumed it'd be a massively increased rarity for good stuff but just be your crew only. Thought that'd be a good change for people that just want to chill. Not like this.

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u/Realtor_In_Texas 9h ago

Carry a Wolfpack.

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u/schneizel101 9h ago

Be sure to being a tether and the cloak for escapes, and be sure you know how to bull rush incase someone tries to lock you in place.

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u/martmeister77 9h ago

This is why we have a beta period. Factor all of this into the PvE mode IF they decide to keep it.

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u/Dinorobot 9h ago

Carry a bunch of snitch scanners and throw even more down so they die too.

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u/Snowstorm080 8h ago

I may need to do the snitch scanner thing to people, its the last achievement i have left

Sorry everyone

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u/mish4thekolb 8h ago

I call them Loot Goblins.

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u/Vesuvias 8h ago

So PvE players are getting creative wiping the lobby so they can get all the loot? Honestly - working as I expected it would.

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u/yosman88 8h ago

Just bring a lure grenade and your sorted

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u/puffmattybear17 7h ago

They'll get bored in like 2 weeks.

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u/Upstairs-Canary-4062 7h ago

Game should just be a standard 50% mixed lobby. I feel like the more we stray from this the more game as a whole suffers.

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u/GunnDaddyK7 7h ago

Nobody cares

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u/Valuable_Orchid8057 7h ago

Does..the tether gun work on raiders in pve? Just shoot them and tether them to arc or a the ground away from your loot when you see them.

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u/Busy-Method9970 7h ago

Make it to where you can rez yourself if you have certain items you can craft

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u/ChillOnTheHillz 7h ago

Meanwhile here I am helping people take down big arc and going away without looting a single thing

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u/CitrusWhistle27 7h ago

What do you expect to happen when there are zero possible reprocussions for their actions?

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u/Skitter9 7h ago

It's just PvPers upset they cant kill you anymore.

Bottomfeeders go where their food is.  Normal mode is now only their own, and theyre not there to actually fight, theyre there to kill those who dont fight back and grief.  Now that the ones they grief are gone and theyre only left with each other, theyre following PvErs to the new mode and trying to grief in whatever way they can.

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u/Goodie_Prime 7h ago

"won the fight" I heard more rounds being shot at that. On top of it being an open world PvE game... Learn to share and also what else do you expect?

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u/Mr_Suplex 6h ago

Yep. The PvE mode was always a dumb idea in its current implementation and anyone with a brain knew this would be an issue (among others)

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u/sasabomish 6h ago

Lure grenade solves this. Return the fire at whoever threw the scanners

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u/BoomGTDynamite 6h ago

2 wolfpacks on you all times. Thank them for spending an hour for you to blow up in 5 seconds.

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u/Ekonexus 6h ago

Yeah, earlier today I aggro'd too many Arc during a run in buried city on PVE. I heard a group of other players nearby, so I crawled down and called for help and walked into safety with them. They were all so rude and said they are PVP players and fuck me, they want my loot. Was really bad taste and completely disrespectful to me the entire time. Not a fun round, 3rd day playing.

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u/Comprehensive_Win200 6h ago

When dropping the bully go for the head to get the fragmenter

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u/chasem167 6h ago

I’m currently stuck in a room by a guy that is blocking the doorway wild that you can do that lmao.

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u/Just_Chillin_247 6h ago

Pve is a game breaking mode, and also very boring. I don't think embark is the type to sell out though so I doubt this is staying as is

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u/silverslant 6h ago

If you want a cupcake lobby then aak the devs to make it not possible to damage other raiders. Its a pvp game, always was

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u/iwiHOMAGE 6h ago

Had a guy try to bullrush me off the ledge in Stella.

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u/Pavlovs_Human 6h ago

I don’t see a problem, he called in more Arc for you to fight, isn’t that what you guys want?

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u/readtheinstructions5 6h ago

Yeah they are so butt hurt

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u/Realistic_Mess_2690 6h ago

I must be insanely lucky..... Haven't once had someone come in on my kill. Unless I'm too far away

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u/SC7639_1 5h ago

Sad people everywhere.

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u/Implosion-X13 5h ago

The way to balance it is being able to kill somebody who steals your kill. This PvE mode is going to have unavoidable grief one way or the other if you can't defend your loot.

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u/hTmlR00lzz 5h ago

I take cloak, smokes, and lures in case of griefers. Easy peasy. Smokes for looting, lures to move bots towards griefers, cloak to remove agro and for the getaway. Shouldn’t be this way, but sad little griefers are gonna be sad little griefers 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Muugen_Samurai 5h ago

Don't kill something if you see a rat, it is balanced it's called playing pvp and killing them 

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u/Callieco23 5h ago

Damn if only there were a way to stop someone from stealing your shit. Like if you had a gun and could shoot them while they looted your kill maybe?

Y’all whined until the countermeasure to this behavior got removed and now you’re whining that people steal your shit.

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u/manbat112 5h ago

Nobody who is complaining about the rats here late clearly haven’t tried the bolo gun or the yank grenade
Seems to me that is supposed to be the solution

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u/PeterAndretti 5h ago

Did people think that others wouldn’t do what they wanted without consequences to fear?

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u/Dear-Code6776 5h ago

Pve only is no good. Need to stick with aggression ion matchmaking. No repercussion for bad behavior, leaves only murderous cocksuckers in normal mode and without killers cant meet good people for real. Make it a minor event if its needs to be

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u/NoCallBacks 5h ago

Idk how you guys keep running into griefers my duo and I have yet to experience this. Knock on wood I guess, but PVE has been amazing

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u/chucknadoz 4h ago

Bro honestly the best way to solve the problem is just make it to where when you die nobody can loot your body in PVE.

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u/Chordant 4h ago

I feel like outside of exploitable BS like bull rushing to knock folks off of exfil, some of this is fair game. There's nothing saying everyone has to play nice in a PvE lobby, it just means players can't outright murder each other. A cityl-to-city or faction truce is a good way to think about it. You'll get busted for outright killing other raiders, but nothing says you can't lure them into an "unfortunate accident"...😉

I've started bringing in stuff to counter this behavior like smokes, lure grenades, etc. It's not my ideal for how this mode runs, but for the several times it's happened to me, it hasn't been a big deal. Annoying for sure, but I say beat 'em at their own game.

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u/HalfHumanHalfFork 4h ago

Played it yesterday and the only conclusion I got was that these people just spawn automatically out of nowhere once a big arc dies

I killed probably about 10 big arcs, almost all of them entirely on my own, but I didn't loot a single one of them without those guys' "help" 

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u/MoreScarsThanSkin *** ******* 🐓 4h ago

yea lots of little kids griefing

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u/ZhukovTheDrunk 4h ago

I stopped playing this game around the C4 meta with my friends so I ain’t got no dogs in this fight but it’s interesting to see people up in arms against greifers in PVE modes.
It happens in almost any game. Same in PVE ark. People do it because it’s funny or because they know it’s gonna piss you off.
Also PVE doesn’t mean you suddenly get everything for free. That guy wanted you off the loot so he could get it. Idk a lot of you people in the care bear lobbies are weird.

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u/empty-thought-time 4h ago

I got trapped in a storm hut by a gross griefer. Was downed with survivor augment, went into the storm hut to get out of the cold and he wanted me to die so he could get my stuff and to try creep me out to surrender he was sexually harassing me in all the ways you can imagine. I stayed out the the game just so he couldn't get my gun

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u/Big-Bird4990 4h ago

Played the last two days and have seen none. I play on the ps5 NA server though. Still, if you are seeing this you need to put it into the title. Otherwise this is hysteria.

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u/Maverick1672 4h ago

I called this on every post about PvE for the month prior and was downvoted in oblivion. I said they will use snitch scanners, lure grenade and photoelectric cloaks. And you all called me a “PvP loving rat.”

Now every post is this. Exactly what I said. This community is filled with whiney naive dipshits.
This is your first time playing an online game? Your surprised by griefers and exploiters?