r/Aion2 • • 6d ago

Archer Low DPS :(

Hey guys, my Ranger feels really underpowered. I'm always the lowest DPS in the party, even with full +10 gear at 2100 gear score and 96k power.

Is anyone else feeling like the Ranger is underpowered?

(Sorry for any mistakes, this English was written by AI. I'm not a native speaker.)

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u/Messoz 6d ago

Getting Vaziels to 20 for the cdr and getting gale arrow to 16 for -10cd helps a ton. Ranger isn't exactly underpowered just requires some things to feel good. Also getting as much combat speed as you can as well goes a long way.

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u/ohkingdreamz 6d ago

Best way(s) to farm the stigma shards/points? Im stuck trying to progress my combat score and feel like im behind on my stigma points. I know they can be bough through shops but is there a best method or shop to buy them from?

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u/DiliThighSnacker 6d ago

Nightmare dungeon + abyss token (i really startes enjoying 5v5 tbh) + shugo all of my points go into stigma until vaziel is 20 then i might catch up on Passive tree points

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u/ohkingdreamz 6d ago

Thanks for the info! I did manage to get the first two nightmare bosses to 10 so now I can start the tier 2 boss. I have been neglecting pvp overall but I think I’ll start this week to get more of the abyss points. Kinda wasn’t looking forward to spending time researching and creating a more pvp focused build but maybe I can get by using my normal pve one just to get the content done. Shugo points I was putting into stigma shards but then I was torn between instead saving them up for the wings. I think it’ll still be best to spend the points now for stigmas since I feel thats my biggest bottleneck currently. Is there a meta guide on which stigmas to level in which order? I think Vaziel lvl 20 is too priority but would be nice to know for certain

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u/DiliThighSnacker 6d ago

Yes your pve set is fine for now, just note that like templar or glad will fuck you up big time so just go in do your dps highly recommend 5s instead of 1v1s as a ranger. If you want a more pvp focused skill setup just change your skill set and activate some stigmas with CC. Also yes vaziel 20 is the big one, until that i personally use supporting fire on 15 with vaziel 5 and that one big phoenix arrow or whatever it is called with dot damage on 10 and bottom left stigma skill on 30s cd also on level 5

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u/ohkingdreamz 6d ago

Thanks for the info! I’ll try swapping my stigmas until I can actually hit level 20 vaziel, I hadn’t even considered that

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u/DiliThighSnacker 6d ago

Just to let you know, idk if vaziel only on 20 is the right thing to do

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u/Useful_Cup2531 6d ago

Archer is pretty dependent on stats / skill lines / stigmas for the majority of their dps If you have bad rolls on your gear your gear score will be high but likely wont have the neccesary balance of crit / cd reduction / dmg boost ect. They are meant to hit really fast and crit alot in order to take advantage of their buffs cooldown resets.

Your in the 2100 bracket so you're pretty much just farming now for the rest of the year, just start looking at horizontal content like your wings collection, pets / genus farming, statues from pantheon. All of those minor stat points where you can get crit and accuracy to cap will be what makes your dps rise. and reset all your stigmas to get the lvl 20 stigma buff skill to get cooldown reset on crits

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u/DiliThighSnacker 6d ago

So i get vaziel to 20 asap, prolly not worth if its the only stigma skill right?

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u/Useful_Cup2531 6d ago

yeh at least +1 the others, might consider explosion over griffon till you have more stgma to make griffon 10 which is a ways out as u want the other two buffs really badly too at 20 (bow) and 15 (supporting) at least since they are very well matched with the build;

remember snipe 16 lowers deadshot cd giving you alot more deadshots

deadshot 16 is a massive dmg increase

Gale arrow 16 makes the gale buff (combat speed and dmg boost) 100% uptime

Drill dart 16 gives you twice as many uses

and arrow scattershot 16 basically resets your cooldowns every stagger

But thats a ton of skill lines so until we are full yellow arcana and have gear that we've rerolled to hit more then one or two lucky 16s our dmg is less then ideal. Once our full kit is in place we have bow on a 2m cd with massive dmg boost and supporting and vaziel coming up every min with perma gale your firing extremely fast add in some cooldown reduction and you can see where it will be wild at lvl 50

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u/DiliThighSnacker 6d ago

Just one more thing i see a lot of ppl not running scattershot at all but those are on TW/KR any reason for that?

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u/Useful_Cup2531 6d ago

Its like just not having enough places to put skill lines, my first decent rings both had scattershot on them till 2100 i ran 16 scatter shot and the dps increase is noticeable its likely just less effective everywhere (only good for staggered bosses essentially) where something like gale arrow is just an all around increase in all instances

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u/DiliThighSnacker 6d ago

You are the goat thanks a lot, i screenshot this and pin it on my monitor xd

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u/hohobe 6d ago

Aside from buying the 25euro pack for the EA i am 100% f2p with no alts. I easly reached 2.4k gs and 114k combat power, Vaizel at 20, gale shot at 16 and deadshot at 16. I consistently outdps everyone. My average dps is 26-27k in conquest, 34k if im allowed to stand still and dps without caring for mechanics(dummy dps is around 35k). All i did was watch whelps ranger guide, setup the macro as shown in the video and spam rotation. Ranger depends heavly on crt, penetration, % dmg and lvl 16 gale shot, deadshot and 20 vaizel. My dps without 20 vaizel or 16 gale shot is around 19-20k.

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u/abricton 6d ago

How are you f2p players 2.4k gs in like 10 days lmao. Are you just no-lifing this shit

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u/hohobe 6d ago

It’s honestly not that hard. I don’t even have crafted gear, just dungeon gear at +10/+12. People are exaggerating how difficult it is. If you actually play the available content, you can easily reach 2.4k+ GS. That said, yeah, I’ve been playing 6–8 hours a day since EA. I've been selling all the crafting mats i got for kinah in order to turn them into boxes and then sell for Quna. The whales have been funding my battlepasses and skins. I think i farmed a total of 13k Quna while spending the bound kinah for character progress.

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u/abricton 6d ago

Yeah 6-8 hour days for 10 days is not a normal amount for an adult and it explains how you got there. No shade at all, super happy you’re having fun with it, but this makes sense.

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u/Ne1tu 4d ago

Why is it a problem for someone to allocate their time how they will?

I have come across people with jobs, kids and spouses who have put an incredible amount of hours into a game.

People really get bent because of all the wrong things.

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u/Serito 2d ago

It's not, they weren't trying to shame you. It's just that many adults won't even have 8 hours free a day after work and sleep. Then there's cleaning and eating. On top of this hopefully socialising, exercise, and if you have a family a lot of time with them.

They are basically saying if you are grinding it 6-8 hours a day you're no lifing e.g you don't have many responsibilities. That's not normal for adults and to say it's 'not hard' to do it that fast is a bit out of touch.

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u/abricton 3d ago

Did you read the comment chain at all?

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u/Ropepluschair 6d ago

Stigma reliant. We’re capped at stigma 25 but on a balance patch that was based on not being capped

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u/RileyR_IV Ranger 6d ago

Not that hard to find multiple sides with uploaded logs to realize, that the margin between classes is minuscule.

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u/Prior_Frosting63 5d ago

what website is this?
p.s nice profile pic

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u/Tequslyder 6d ago

All the rangers I see have low dps so idk.

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u/Latter_Ebb_6649 6d ago

Isn’t ranger like, one of the best dps in game ? Maybe your build is just bad

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u/theoldbayseasoning 6d ago

Assassin

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u/RileyR_IV Ranger 6d ago

Assa is the WORST spec until they get their 5th Stigma slot.

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u/Automatic_Touch7537 6d ago

how does assassin dps even work

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u/Sheriffd1 6d ago edited 6d ago

As of right now, assassin is worse class to play, it will eventually become the highest dps though

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u/Latter_Ebb_6649 6d ago

Assassin for what have been told is more pvp than pve

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u/Corsonacon 6d ago

What are your stats speced for? If you are taking advantage of all your mobility options then you sacrifice a lot of defense, evasion and HP in favor of attack and crit.

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u/Bradford_Pear 6d ago

If you haven't started messing with the macro feature you will want to

It seems it's kind of required to keep up in this game and it does make combat a lot easier

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u/Ralposki 6d ago

Easier yes. Better? Not for my class, at least. I've switched between 2-3 macros, was not satisfied. I've started manually learning the spells and rotation, my dps increased by 30%.

Macros just prioritize what to hit, not when to hit to increase everything you need, depending on the situation.

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u/Tasty-Designer-4489 6d ago

Not a single class is optimal manually. You're having a skill issue making the macro, ironically.

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u/Ralposki 6d ago

Not sorc. That's for sure.

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u/mjcolayman3394 5d ago

Macros don’t prioritize what to hit.

They literally INSTA hit what you want, in a specific order.

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u/Skom666 6d ago

ranger is gear dependent heavily. you can't play randomly ranger and expect results

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u/Aggravating-Copy151 6d ago

Uhhh.

How are you finding out your lowest DPS?

And what DPS are you at?

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u/Comprehensive-Run615 6d ago

It’s weird they forced us on 4 stigmas. Thats really bad imo. 5 unlocks a lot of classes.

Now I have to set two presets just to play open world vs dungeon

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u/suuuhdude20 2d ago

i can't even hit 39k on a dummy. can you post your build/macro?

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u/LordYamz 6d ago

Archer is like top 3 dps in current reports. Set up your macros and look at guides.

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u/ilJumperMT 4d ago

Lol no he is lowest on logs only cleric is lower

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u/theoldbayseasoning 6d ago

Ranger and Sorcerer definitely feel underpowered. Cleric and Gladiator out DPS both.

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u/sleight1990 6d ago

I consistently out dps everyone on my sorcerer even at lower gear levels than everyone else so idk

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u/DiliThighSnacker 6d ago

Yeah this* guy talks out of his ass, if sorcs know what they do they easily out dps equal geared rangers by a ton

Edit: to clarify the guy above you*