r/shitposting • dumbass • 1d ago

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u/C1nders-Two 1d ago

A political survey conducted on the G7 country known to be least positive towards trans rights (in addition to one of the less supportive countries in the world that doesn’t just jail or kill you. It’s actually really bad, no jokes), run by a data analysis firm based in that same country, which has been accused multiple times of having data that is unreliable at best.

The unreliability issue is a common and persistent issue with them, by the way, which could speak of purposeful intent.

Hmm, I wonder how this might affect the results…

I do respect actually giving a source, though. Not many people on Reddit do that.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 22h ago edited 22h ago

YouGov conducting an internal review and publishing the results that a single survey has fraudulent responses counts as them being unreliable?

When you say that the UK is bad for "trans rights", how are you defining that? Transgender people in the UK have exactly the same rights as everybody else.

And here's another survey:

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/blogs/ec_transpoll_20250430.html

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u/C1nders-Two 16h ago

I gave links to multiple articles about different surveys with fraudulent responses. Also, not only are they unreliable, but they’re unreliable in the same way.

I admit that I do find it a little suspicious that multiple surveys that they’ve been accused of doctoring have had results that are convenient for conservative narratives. Inconsistency is one thing, consistent inconsistency is quite another.

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2: I’m defining UK as being unsupportive of trans rights by how the general public treat trans people and issues relating to them. Issues relating to discrimination and social justice are seldom issues of legality, after all. Discrimination may be illegal, but such laws are only as good as the people who you mean to follow them.

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This source seems better than the last one, but I can’t really do much to confirm that myself as I don’t have Microsoft Office.

I also frankly don’t really like surveys in general. The medium is good at polling a wide variety of people at the same time, but there’s very little you can do to ensure that the responses are truly genuine. It’s also impossible to gather why a person believes a certain way or the finer points behind those beliefs just by reading a survey.

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u/PilotedByGhosts 15h ago

The why is because people have come to understand what is meant by trans rights. When everybody thought it was the same as gay rights or black rights, they were in favour of it.

Gay rights and black rights were won by dialogue, by making everybody else see the similarities. Gay people and black people wanted to be treated the same as straight people and white people. Everybody eventually came round to the good sense of that.

By contrast, trans rights activists declared that there was to be no dialogue, no debate, no alternative viewpoint allowed. Anybody who expressed any such viewpoint was to be branded a bigot and cancelled. The TRAs weren't asking for trans people to be treated the same as everybody else, they were asking for special conditions that were entirely non-negotiable.

That's why their cause has lost popularity.

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