r/linux • • 1d ago

Popular Application Fortnite is coming to Linux

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u/nostalgica1 1d ago

Yeah, the little hype i had died when i seen all the stuff you have to do to play it

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u/Sad-Cod-9584 1d ago

They want to make it kernel-level with all the verification required to keep it signed and unmodified. Which is asinine. 

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u/LinixGuy 1d ago

I thought it was opposite similar to macOS. Locking kernel down to avoid kernel level anti cheat.

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u/Indolent_Bard 20h ago

No, asinine would be letting just anyone be able to cheat. You're asinine for refusing to accept the truth.

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u/Sad-Cod-9584 12h ago

Kernel-level ACs still get broken all the time. Why not invest more in server-side AC and stop caring about the OS alltogether

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u/Indolent_Bard 9h ago

You'll love this: Valorant not only does as much as possible server side, but it's also built specifically in a way that many cheats simply aren't possible due to the way it handles the game logic.

You'll heat this: It wasn't enough so they added the kernel component.

Supposedly, League of Legends worked the same way, and cheating forums will tell you that there was a massive difference before and after.

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u/DragonSlayerC 1d ago

How else do you expect it to work?

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u/WaitForItTheMongols 1d ago

Anti cheat needs to be server side and behavioral.

The arms race of cheats and anticheats leads inevitably to hardware cheat devices. USB gives you a video feed and KBM inputs. From there a device can fully watch the game and provide inhuman perfect inputs. It can see an opponent who is a single pixel and instantly turn to attack, or pick up the tiniest inaudible sound to know who is coming. And nothing on the user pc will detect a nefarious process.

Memory editing has been the basis for cheats for years. If that gets fully locked down, cheats will not stop, they will just move outside the computer.

10 years from now you will be able to get a Cheat Box Plus which consists of an stm32 running a heuristic model to do what you want, with tweaks per game.

As a bonus, the anti chest that solves for that will also solve for the existing cheats of today, without spying on the pc.