Doesn't vibe coding mean they used prompts to make ai code the whole thing? Why are they proud of that everytime I open epic to there always some werid bug, what happens most of the time is my store changes from English to some random language
Not only that but vibe coding means not all code is hand-treated, or human-treated. So if the AI accidentally gives away your account details, it’s possible no human at the company would know. Mistakes could be everywhere.
If you're talking to investors they like the potential for velocity. You can vibe out a ton of features in a short time with minimal paid dev hours.
If you let it run completely unsupervised you'll get a mess, but it can work if it's monitored. I've been treating AI like our contractors, applying an appropriate amount of scrutiny, and it's still faster for a lot of tasks.
But with Epic it's highly skilled artisanal prompt artists that do the vibe coding, you see. That's totally different from the usual sloppy garbage everyone else creates.
Isn't there also the risk of being completely fucked if there is a coding error? I'm certain I've already read of articles of companies being able to unfuck an Ai-produced error because the human engineers had absolutely no idea how to read what was written.
Yes. For some reason he thinks this is a good thing.
Apparently he made them restart coding for this Marvel game saying they had to do it all with AI and no manual coding. People are talking about avoiding Unreal because they're afraid it will be vibecoded nonsense.
Vibe coding is done by people who have no idea how engineering works and open AI, say "Built me a <insert app description>, don't make mistakes". Look at the result and follow up with "on the X and y,it should be doing z, please fix".
That is not how software engineers utilise AI tools.
Fair enough, I guess i misread your first comment, we’re on the same page about the definition.
The real question is which one Epic is doing, and given the bugs people are reporting, it’s hard to tell from the outside but I'm guessing their software engineer might be doing a little more than using AI as tools.
AI is fine for writing code IF people actually review it and understand what it's doing. Its able to skip the actual writing (more accurately, typing) of code which can take a lot of time, so it can get reviewed and optimized by actual people who know what they're doing.
Compared to vibe coding which is basically "make me this" then "okay, now make it able to do this" until they get what they want with little to no knowledge of what its actually doing.
But a lot of gamers say things like "just do X" and "why don't they do Y?" Assuming they're simple and easy to do without having a clue what they're talking about
Just using AI isn't vibe-coding. Vibe-coding is telling an AI what the program should do and then the AI generating the code on its own. Usually, whatever the AI outputs isn't scrutinized either, for one reason or another. (Boss wants it done quick and doesn't care about quality, the one doing the prompt not knowing how to code, stuff like that.)
You do realize that there have been times in history where people have been collectively wrong? Just because "senior" engineers are using AI doesn't mean it's not still vibe coding. I'm seen the code that these "senior" engineers produce with "AI assistance". It's trash. They are vibe coders that don't want to admit that they are vibe coding.
As a senior dev, yes, it sucks ass and it's such a pain to review. No rhyme or reason, fat-ass PRs touching a bajillion things at once, and it turns people's brains into mush.
I hear that so many times about AI. Somehow, every public example of using AI in a public faced product has made it go to shit.
There is only 2 possibilities, either you go over everything it produces (which makes it kind of useless to brag about it's capabilities) or what you make with it is shit.
I can't prove number 2 so I have to go with my experience and assume you go over everything and you are happy with the time you save even if it means reviewing code for most of your time.
Sure, you have seen all the code in the world. You're delusional if you think there aren't engineering teams out there producing extremely well functioning, well tested systems and you're even more delusional if you think AI with the right guard rails doesn't write better code than humans do, which it does in fact do. Its also never going away so yeh.
We are not vibe coders, you simply have no understanding of the industry.
I've seen "the best" that LLMs have to offer. Literally every time I've had someone like you come along and claim that LLMs produce better code than human engineers, I've had them show me this "better code" and it has always been garbage. Every single time.
Yeh no you haven't. You are a single person in a world of millions engineers who will never interact with you. You're making baseless claims and are projecting like crazy.
I can't show you our codebase, I'd be in breach of contract. But if you remotely know anything about software engineering you would already know that you're wrong, so it's quite simple really: You don't know what you're talking about.
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u/Sea-Split-3996 9h ago edited 9h ago
Doesn't vibe coding mean they used prompts to make ai code the whole thing? Why are they proud of that everytime I open epic to there always some werid bug, what happens most of the time is my store changes from English to some random language