r/electronic_cigarette • • Sep 20 '23

Vaping vs. Cigarettes: Everything I learned in 2 weeks after reading all the studies I found. NSFW

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This is a very long post and I apologize in advance. It has good title separation so please feel free to skip and jump around. This is a repost of my own post in r/Vaping*.*

It’s been over a month since I put out my last cigarette after 10 years of smoking.

Vaping helped me the most in this transition but my obsessive nature got me to research the living hell of this topic.

Information was scattered all over the web and I couldn't find a single conclusive article on the matter so I set out to write the article that I was looking for. (scratch your own itch?)

This post has about 50 links for further reading. None bring me or any other party any monetary gain. The wonderful community of Reddit helped me a lot with this research so I just want to give back.

Enjoy!

What is Vape Juice Made Of?

Vape juice consists of 4 ingredients:

  1. Propylene Glycol (PG)
  2. Vegetable Glycerin (VG)
  3. Flavorings (?)
  4. Nicotine (optional)

Cigarettes -mainly- consist of 19 ingredients:

  1. Nicotine
  2. Citric acid
  3. Tar
  4. Ammonia
  5. Glycerol
  6. Benzyl alcohol
  7. Caffeine
  8. Benzaldehyde
  9. Butyric acid
  10. Acetylpyrazine
  11. Oil
  12. Acetanisole
  13. Carbon dioxide
  14. Cinnamaldehyde
  15. Cinnamyl alcohol
  16. Lactic acid
  17. Anisyl acetate
  18. Citronella oil
  19. Cinnamyl acetate

In addition, in 1994, big tobacco companies were forced by law to disclose any additives they put in, extending this list by another 599 known additives.

The smoke of cigarettes however is a different story.

In one study, cigarette smoke produces over 5000 chemicals. 2,256 of which are known and studied. 98 were assessed for their risk value: 60 carcinogens (potential to cause cancer) and 48 non-cancerous (definitely not vitamins though)

On the other hand, In a 2021 study, vaping produced about 2000 chemicals that are largely unidentified with “some” being “potentially” harmful.

Unidentified is not the same as safe.

But from a common sense perspective, cigarette smoke is far more complex due mainly to the nasty combustion process.

My method here is to analyze the most abundant and known harmful chemicals in vaping and cigarettes.

“The Dose Makes The Poison” — Paracelsus ca. 1540

Sure, I love to get philosophical on you every chance I get. But here, I find it mandatory. It’s the motto. Keep it in mind while reading everything below.

“Enough” water can kill you, and “some” black mamba venom can cure you.

Let’s dig deep:

1. Nicotine — The unjustified bad rep

Oh boy... I wasn’t ready for this.

According to the National Health Service of the UK, Nicotine, although a very addictive substance, is still relatively harmless.

Nictoine’s lousy rep stems from its association in our minds with cigarettes.

It’s a stimulant that increases alertness, focus, and concentration. It also improves cognitive function and fine motor skills and enhances short-term memory.

But its recorded benefits are far from just that!

A study of 220,494 people aged 37–70 study recognized a strange protective link to Parkinson’s disease. The results made my jaw drop:

  • A 20% reduction in the likelihood of developing Parkinson's in former smokers.
  • A 50% reduction in the likelihood of developing Parkinson's for current smokers.

Parkinson's affects 7–14 million people worldwide. This unexpected preventive quality of nicotine can affect the lives of millions.

Millions that otherwise have no cure.

This beautiful article from Dr. Katherine Fletcher takes a deep dive into this relationship.

In terms of dose, a study compared nicotine absorption from vaping an 18 mg/ml juice vs. cigarettes and found that:

“Compared to smoking one tobacco cigarette, the EC devices and liquid used in this study delivered one-third to one-fourth the amount of nicotine after 5 minutes of use”

For reference, 12–18mg/ml is recommended for those who smoke 15–20 cigarettes daily.

Note that Nicotine is still very addictive since it activates the neuropathways of reward, causing dependence and cravings. It also causes a temporary increase in heart rate and blood pressure.

2. Formaldehyde (Methanal)

It is a colorless, corrosive, awfully smelling, and potentially carcinogenic gas at room temperature.

It’s the building block of many industrial processes, and it’s found practically everywhere.

Humans, plants and practically any organic living matter emit Methanal. It’s a byproduct of metabolism. It’s abundant in cigarettes since burning is an extreme form of metabolism.

For every potentially hazardous chemical, there is an occupational exposure limit (legal concentration limits in a workplace) according to the Occupational Safety and Health Administration

In Numbers:

  • The daily maximum exposure to Formaldehyde is 5.3 mg.
  • A pack of cigarettes contains about 1.5–2.5 mg of Formaldehyde.
  • 3g of e-liquid contained 0.04-22 mg (*)

3. Acetaldehyde (Ethanal) — The hungover chemical

is a clear, colorless liquid with a pungent choking odor most abundant in tobacco products.

Also, a member of the aldehyde family like Formaldehyde.

This is the toxic byproduct of metabolizing alcohol found in your liver after a heavy night of drinking. It’s also one of the reasons why we get hungover.

This compound is carcinogenic in animals and potentially so in humans due to its irreversible DNA damage properties.

Dosage Comparations:

  • The daily maximum exposure to Acetaldehyde is 2088 mg.
  • A pack of cigarettes contains about 10–30 mg of Acetaldehyde.
  • 3g of e-liquid had 0.02–17 mg(*) of Acetaldehyde

4. Acrolein

Acrolein is a colorless to yellowish liquid with a pungent and irritating odor.

It’s so irritating that they use it to make tear gas and herbicides.

Just like the other two compounds above, it too falls under the umbrella of “aldehydes,” making it a byproduct of the decomposition of organic matter.

In animal studies, prolonged exposure to acrolein has been associated with lung and oral cancer, but the evidence is limited in humans. It is also linked with heart disease in cigarettes.

The results:

  • The daily maximum exposure to Acrolein is 1.5 mg.
  • A pack of cigarettes contains about 1.5–3 mg of Acrolein.
  • 3g of e-liquid contained <0.003–2.4 mg(*) of Acrolein

5. Diacetyl (Flavouring)

\This chemical has been banned in the EU and the UK from E-cigarette juice since 2016. Never buy your juice from shady sources/brands.*

But the media made sure to make a big deal out of it.

Diacetyl is an organic compound that packs an intense buttery aroma and flavor and is used in alcoholic beverages, some desserts, and e-liquids.

This buttery flavoring agent is said to cause a disease called “Popcorn Lungs.”

Popcorn lungs is when the tiny airways of the lungs get micro scares that cause these pathways to inflam and thus reduce and decrease air flow rate.

The myth goes as follows:

A long time ago, 11 workers in a popcorn factory had respiratory illness. The investigators thought it could be due to the daily Diacetyl they were exposed to.

But no further investigation has been made.

To date, there are ZERO cases of Popcorn lungs that have been linked to Vaping.

A Harvard study found 9.0 micrograms of Diacetyl in some E-juice, aside from the real risks of Diacetyl. Cigarette smoke contained way more than that.

It's way way more.

A study found 301–433 micrograms of Diacetyl per cigarette. Converted to parts per million parts of air (ppm) (assuming a weight of 700 milligrams per cigarette), it’s 429 ppm**.**

What is the safe limit of short-term acute (15 mins) exposure to Diacetyl, you ask?

It is 100 ppm!

That makes the daily exposure to Diacetyl from smoking 750 times higher, on average, than exposure to Diacetyl from vaping.

6. Heavy Toxic Metals — Vague... Super Vague...

I hit a big fat wall here.

Not only was this too complex for me to understand, but most of the studies in this area showed no relevant information on the coil material and devices used.

Worse still, some of these studies I discovered were industry-funded.

It got frustrating fast. I had to start all over multiple times. Throughout the 15 years of e-cig evolution, many coil materials, temperatures, and devices came and went.

Some of these old studies found dangerously high copper, nickel and silver levels. While a report from the Royal College of Physicians in the UK found the concentration of heavy metals “Not a major concern because levels of exposure are well below recognized safety thresholds.”

I was getting conflicting results from all over the place.

In a 2015 study by Dr. Farsalinos, they analyzed heavy metal emissions from double the average daily use (1200 puffs per day). They found cadmium, chromium, copper, lead, and nickel levels that were 2.6–37.4 times lower compared to acceptable intake from inhalational medications. It was 325 times lower than the Minimal Risk Level (MRL) for manganese. For aluminum, barium, iron, tin, titanium, zinc, and zirconium, exposure was 665–77,500 times lower than the Recommended Exposure Limits (RET)

But to be frank, all those were 5 years or older with insane variations. I needed to find something robust, something conclusive, transparent and independent.

So I did!

This Critical Review that analyzed the metallic emission and toxicology of 12 studies focusing on real-life usage published after 2017 is the closest thing we have to the truth.

Here is a direct quote:

“All experiments reporting levels above toxicological markers for some metals (e.g., nickel, lead, copper, manganese) exhibited the following experimental flaws:

  1. High-powered sub-ohm tank devices tested by means of puffing protocols whose airflows and puff volumes are conceived and appropriate for low-powered devices; this testing necessarily involves overheating conditions that favor the production of toxicants and generate aerosols that are likely repellent to human users
  2. Miscalculation of exposure levels from experimental outcomes.
  3. Pods and tank devices were acquired months and years before the experiments so that corrosion effects cannot be ruled out.
  4. Failure to disclose important information on the characteristics of pods and tank devices, on the experimental methodology and on the resulting outcomes, thus hindering the interpretation of results and the possibility of replication.”

I can’t thank those people enough for refusing to leave bad science remain unchecked.

Finally, they concluded with this:

In general, low powered devices tested without these shortcomings produced metal exposure levels well below strict reference toxicological markers.

Case closed.

So, what coil material is safest?

Subjectively, the crowds mostly agree on Kanthal A1, Stainlessteel 316L, and Nichrome 80 (Ni80) as the “safest” coil types available. The top 4th-gen vape brands (Vaporesso, Uwell, Smok) use them.

Even Chatgpt seems to agree:

7. Fluid Build up in The Lungs (Pneumonia)

If water vapor can cause pneumonia, saunas, showers and any city with high humidity will be the hotspots for this disease.

Of course, they aren’t. In fact, we know that saunas do the opposite!

Pneumonia is most commonly caused by pneumococcal, particularly the Streptococcus pneumoniae germ.

I am not sure you are ready for this because I wasn’t, but..

An investigative study done in 2021 found that ALL tested e-liquids showed Antibacterial activity. Here is a quote:

All e-liquids investigated showed antibacterial activity against at least one pathogenic strain. Higher activity was correlated to the presence of flavors and nicotine.

The author of the study later added:

“Investigation confirms what scientists long-known on effects of PG and VG, and their antimicrobial effects. Vaporised PG was already used over 50 years ago as a disinfectant in healthcare environments while VG is still used today as an antibacterial in many food ingredients and pharmacological preparations”

In case you don’t know, Propylene Glycol (PG) and vegetable glycerol (VG) are the base chemicals used to make any e-liquid in the market.

8. X (?)

“Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance.” — Confucius

Vaping devices haven’t matured as a product yet; the science is 15 years old. That’s very, very young. It’s still not even formally considered a therapeutic medical device that helps people quit smoking.

Even though the evidence is clear.

A very recent 2023 study00319-X/fulltext) observed natural e-cigarette use among adult smokers, regardless of their intention to quit. In a randomized trial across the USA, 70% actively used provided e-cigarettes, using them more than four days per week on average. The e-cigarette group showed significant improvements in quitting, quit attempts, and smoking reduction compared to the control group.

That means even those who didn’t intend to quit did quit.

We know it works. We just aren’t sure about how it will play out in 50 or 100 years.

Our knowledge isn’t complete.

Vaping does expose us to sinister chemicals in non-neglectable amounts. It definitely isn't clean air.

Anybody who tells you confidently that vaping is safe has a minimal understanding of reality, and you should never trust them.

(*) How to be on The Low End of The Spectrum — Dry Puffs Avoidance Guide For Intellectual Idiots

A study in 2015 published shocking results. The study found levels of Formaldehyde that are 10–15 times higher than in cigarettes.

The media ate it up and spit it out at large. The research group netted 3.5 million dollars in funding, leaving the vaping community confused.

How can something detectable by the human nose in minute quantities (due to harsh smell) be so readily abundant in vape smoke?

Something was “off*”. — budum tss’*

The problem was exactly what you expect when knowledge is created top-down instead of relying on observation to determine how to use a vaping device. They decided to use machines that vaped the living daylight out of these devices according to what they thought was reasonable.

Indeed, it was very far from reasonable.

“Dry puffs” were generated all the way during the experiment. A replication study later confirmed that dry puffs were generated 88% of the time.

Another study from 2016 found that 5 ml of liquid was the equivalent of 3200 tobacco cigarettes (bonkers!) in terms of aldehyde emissions (Formaldehyde**,** Acetaldehyde, and Acrolein). Again, without any checking for dry puff generation. Again, using an ancient CE4 atomizer technology (at the time) and 5-second long puffs.

I don’t know what a CE4 atomizer is, but the experiences from real users 10 years ago speak for themselves (a burnt wick after 2 days of use)

A replication study of that study detected dry puffs and reported an overestimation of the results by 6 to 25 fold. For a more realistic approach, they used a “new” 2014 atomizer and found:

“The levels of aldehyde emissions were so low that a liquid consumption of 5 mL per day would expose vapers to 94.4–99.8% lower aldehyde levels compared to smoking 20 tobacco cigarettes” — Konstantinos E. Farsalinos

The vaping emissions I’ve shown earlier come from the combined results of 5 devices. Here is a direct quote from the study:

“The extreme levels of aldehydes produced by Device 1 indicate that the coil may have overheated due to lack of liquid in the wick…. Device 1 was examined and found to be charred, an indication of thermal decomposition…in terms of actual risks from aldehyde toxicity to the user, it is very possible that when significant thermal decomposition of an EC liquid is occurring, commonly called the dry-puff phenomenon (Farsalinos et al., 2015), the aerosol produced may be quite noxious, and cause the user to discontinue use until the dry-puff issue is resolved.

The cleanest results came from Device 5:

Device 5, produced less than 1% of the aldehydes delivered from 20 combustible cigarettes per day and the OSHA workplace exposure limit. Also, there was over a 750-fold difference in total aldehyde yield between Devices 1 and 5.

Device 5 uses a single 0.72 Ohm bottom coil with wattage ranging from 10 to 25 watts.

A top-tier Reddit-certified Vaping mod is the Vapresso Xros 3. It is also what I purchased after reading thoroughly online. It comes with a 0.8-ohm single bottom coil and uses 16 watts.

I fill it up once it’s two-thirds empty and replace the pod as soon as I detect the slightest change in taste. Safe to say, I had zero dry puffs, leaks or issues.

Vaping is safer

It’s all about harm reduction.

This research opened my eyes to just how hazardous cigarettes are. Numerous times during the writing process, I’d stop and feel disgust and regret for my past 10 years of smoking.

No matter how often you exercise or how healthy your diet is, if you’re still smoking cigarettes, you’re still way worse off than a person who doesn’t do any of those.

We might be doubtful about the long-term effects of vaping, but we are certain about the risks of cigarettes.

Vaping as a means to an end.

If harm reduction is the goal, then ideally the goal is to get rid of vaping as well.

The keyword here is: Nicotine Control.

“You will be surprised how fast your brain loses interest (in vaping) once it knows that it doesn’t satisfy your (nicotine) craving,” said a Redditor who transitioned from smoking to vaping to air.

In vaping, we can reduce the nicotine levels by milligrams at a time, making a smooth and steady transition to a nicotine-free life.

Slow is steady, steady is fast.

One final word.

Vape responsibly.

If you’re getting off cigarettes, don’t go the direct-lung, big tank, high voltage, high heat, cloud-chasing, dripping, cheap black market purchases route.

Keep things clean, premium, simple and minimal.

Buy the most premium high-quality Mouth-To-Lung low-voltage devices with disposable pods. Experiment with PG/VG ratios and flavors from reputable vendors, and be mindful of your nicotine intake.

12–16mg of nicotine for the heavy smoker and half that for the light one should do.

Vape to take the edge off. The minimal effective dose is your friend. Not to disappear in smoke like a ninja.

Disclaimer: Let me be clear: Vaping is not safe. This article is intended for harm reduction and not to promote vaping for non-smokers. Not medical advice. Ask a real doctor if you have health concerns

TLDR;; Cigarettes are nasty and vaping is a whole lot less so if you don't dry puff and buy from shady sources.

Edit 1;; Fixed some messed up titles for easier read (Sorry!)

Edit 2;; You made this post the top post of the month here and in r/vaping. The love is unreal, thank you <3 !!. I've been reading your comments and collecting criticism and what's missing (Keep them coming!) to go for a second round of research, extending this further and hopefully making it the ultimate safety guide for vaping online. Stay tuned!


r/electronic_cigarette • • 4d ago

Weekly Pics Thread NSFW

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Welcome to The Weekly Vape Pics thread! You've got photos and we want to see them! Post them here every day!

To see what kind of pics should and should not be posted in this thread, check here in the wiki.

To see the previous Daily Vape Pics threads, see here.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 9h ago

Help! Need Aerotank NSFW

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Hi guys! I am not an active member of the community, I used ecigs to quit smoking, but did not follow the news and laws. Using it time to time now, and unfortunately my 10 year old tank has become unusable - the threads have worn out. :( The stores that I used seem to be all closed, is there a list of online stores that are still open? Looking for aerotank v2 (AFAIK they are not produced anymore, but maybe some remnants) or at least bottom part of it. Maybe EVOD, if it's easier to find or any other tanks that use the same coils - I'm rebuilding them myself easily. I would appreciate any adviсe, thank you!


r/electronic_cigarette • • 11h ago

Help! Help with switch from Squonk/RDA to Pod - Suggestions? NSFW

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Alright so, I'm not a newb by any means. I've been vaping for over 15 years now. I've used every variation of mod / tank combo etc you can imagine except a Boro. I also DiY my juice at 1.5mg, freebase.

On to the question. I currently use a Pulse V2/V3 squonk and Nitrous RDA, single coil, usually a clapton at 0.6ohm and I vape at 25w. The issue is, I'm tired of carrying around spare 21700's and I literally drink juice. It's not uncommon for me to go through 30ml + / day.

I'm interested in switching to a Pod Mod. I prefer a restricted direct lung draw. I'm thinking, the smaller capacity of the pods and the smaller coils will help me save on juice. I'm not going to switch to salts and my nic intake is not a big deal, it's more the hand to mouth / vaping act addiction. I've vaped at zero and also at 0.75mg before for extended periods of time.

So, what mod / coil would you recommend? I've been looking at Oxva's, Uwell Caliburn's, Vaporesso XROS, Geekvape Aegis and Lost Vape Thelmas.

There are a ton of different options from each company / line and it's honestly overwhelming at the moment.

The things I want are long battery life for a chain vaper, pass through mode is a huge plus, long life for the coils, I make pretty clean juice if that helps - no added sweetners, etc, and durability because I am clumsy as hell.

I was looking at the XROS 6 with .6, .7 or .8 mesh pods. Would this fit my needs? What other options are worth considering?

Also, it would be great if I could orderonline and have it shipped to me, in California.....is element still the best place?


r/electronic_cigarette • • 16h ago

VSO flavors NSFW

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I ordered from VSO flavors 10 days ago and they still haven't shipped my order and will not respond to any of the emails I have sent them. Ordered from Bull City at the same time an that order has already been delivered.

I just wanted to make a pumpkin spice flavor but im stuck waiting on the pumpkin from VSO.

Definitely do no recommend ordering from them if you want your order to be shipped in under 2 weeks


r/electronic_cigarette • • 1d ago

国内怎么买烟油 NSFW

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一直有抽电子烟,之前在大陆都是抽烟弹式的,上次去台湾朋友给了我一个可以加注烟油的,回到大陆几乎找不到怎么买这种烟油?请问要怎么买


r/electronic_cigarette • • 3d ago

Have you ever had to replace vaping with cigarettes when you didn’t have access to your vape? NSFW

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I forgot my 35mg vape at home and so just smoked 3 cigarettes at a much quicker pace than I remember. I am in a bar drinking. How did it go when you had access to cigarettes but not your usual vape?

I normally smoke maybe a cigarette every one hour in a bar patio while I am hitting the nic vape every few minutes inside the bar. But without my vape I am spending most of my time on the patio smoking 2-3 times as often.

Seems like a reminder of how strong nicotine salts are and how hard it is to make up for that instant hit with the slower acting plant alternative.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 2d ago

Pre-employment testing NSFW

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Hi all! As the title says I have a pre employment screening the 20th of this month. I’ve been a daily vape user since 2021, usually a 5% vape will last me 1.5-2 weeks. The hospital I’m working at is nicotine free and they tests for cotinine. I’ve been slowing my vaping down to only a few hits per day last week, with a 48 hour vape free period on Friday and Saturday. However, I did cave Sunday and hit my vape about 4-5 times and tested pos on a 200 ng/mL home test yesterday. I’m not sure what the cut off is, but is 8-9 days enough to pass? I’m freaking out about it honestly lol


r/electronic_cigarette • • 2d ago

Are Pods Actually Worth The Money? NSFW

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I’ve been using disposable vapes for a while because it seemed like the cheaper option for me in the beginning. But, I’m starting to think it’s costing me more money over time now. What kind of vape devices are actually worth the money? Are the reusable vapes with pods better overall for my money without going all the way to maintaining those mod tanks?


r/electronic_cigarette • • 2d ago

Vaporesso XROS 5 died today NSFW

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I’m not sure where I went wrong but she won’t charge at all. Looking for recommendations, is there anything out there that’s better?! Easy with pods that is durable, slim & simple? Or should I just go for the xros 6. I’ll need to order one today as my disposable is almost out.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 2d ago

does anyone else feel like higher wattage completely changes how flavor notes layer on exhales? NSFW

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been messing around with variable output on a couple of newer mode-adjustable setups at my desk this week.

noticed something super interesting with complex blends (specifically dragonfruit strawberry and cream profiles):

running lower output (~12w-15w) brings out the subtle sweet vanilla/cream base with almost zero harshness.

bumping it up (~25w+) completely brings out the tart citrus fruit notes and makes the throat hit way sharper.

i used to think adjustable power on these high-capacity setups was just a useless gimmick, but it actually changes the profile enough that it feels like two completely different liquids.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 2d ago

Vape universe.. A REAL SCHAM !! NSFW

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r/electronic_cigarette • • 2d ago

Orion 2 pro NSFW

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If anyone has a 2 pro in black abalone that they no longer use or are willing to let go of please please let me know. I want the panels on it. They don’t make the same abalone for the silver model and it breaks my heart. Thanks everyone.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 3d ago

I'm looking for a newer dual 18650 mod NSFW

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currently using the geekvape aegis legend 5 and im looking to switch it is there anything that came out in 2026?


r/electronic_cigarette • • 3d ago

GiantVapes - Never again. NSFW

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It might be well known already, but I placed an order with Giant Vapes for Nord 6 pods on the 5th and they've only JUST printed the label. I've never bought from them before, but they are by far the slowest company I've dealt with. I can't imagine they get much business if they are this damn slow.

I emailed them about it, they said "it's because of order volume" which I think is a crock of shit.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 4d ago

Help! Idl what to do NSFW

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Hi! I'm not someone who vape, but my mom does. It's sort of affecting our relationship. She used to smoke cigs since even before I was born. There was this one time she smoked with friends in the other room so bad, I developed sore throat and trouble breathing.

Even so, I love my mom. She's the only one I can count on. She already quit smoking to vape since I had talked to her about it already, but lately I've been noticing she hits the vape more than 10 times every few minutes. I sing professionally and while I love my mom and want to spend time with her, I can't handle her vaping in the same room I'm staying in.

She knows this, but she thinks being 3 - 5 feet away in a small room when having movie nights is enough for it to not affect me. It makes me cry sometimes because I don't know how to even be in one room with her for more than an hour without her hitting her vape every minute.

I just would like to know if there are any super negative effects that secondhand vape smoke inhalation has that could affect me or my singing. I want to spend hours talking and watching movies with my mom, but I'm scared that inhaling vape smoke for that long could also affect me. I don't like to disrespect or spit on people who vape. Lots of my friends vape and smoke, but seeing my mom with it is different.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 5d ago

Alien 220 parts NSFW

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Hello I was wondering if anyone had some spare parts for the Smok alien 220 mod. Specifically the plastic housing.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 5d ago

Review Bonza pro rta NSFW

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The bonza pro rta is fire for anyone looking for a great rta damn near leak proof n gives the flavor of a rda very simple to build too this is coming from someone who has used squonk for years n trying to break away from it to a more simple grab n go tank set up


r/electronic_cigarette • • 6d ago

vaped to quit smoking NSFW

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It wasn't a quick fix—the whole process took me two full years, but it eliminated the intense relapse panic entirely


r/electronic_cigarette • • 6d ago

Help! Original Vapefly jester NSFW

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Does anyone have any idea where to find the original vapefly jester. Or if anyone has one that’s willing to ship it( if it’s allowed). It seems like the perfect vape for me I love the form factor and the fact it’s rebuildable.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 7d ago

Stop the ban on vapes in the United States NSFW

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In Pennsylvania starting the 19th of October all vapes will be banned except for one the government deems to be allowed


r/electronic_cigarette • • 7d ago

6 months off the packs today. crazy how much your sense of taste changes after quitting cigarettes. NSFW

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just realized today marks half a year since i smoked my last camel crush. my supervisor gently hinted back in spring that my jacket smelled like a stale ash bucket, and that embarrassing moment was the kick in the ass i needed.

the wild thing is how dead my palate was at the start. for the first couple of weeks, standard low-power pods tasted like literal air or faint chemical sugar, which almost made me relapse back to cigarettes because i couldn't get a satisfying hit.

ended up picking up a king pro on a whim because of the adjustable wattage. bumping it up to ~25w gave enough warmth and flavor intensity to actually punch through my damaged taste buds. now that my lungs and taste buds cleared up, i can actually pick up subtle dessert/citrus notes without needing crazy amounts of menthol.

to anyone currently in their first few weeks of making the switch: hang in there. after week 3 your food tastes better, your lungs stop wheezing, and your taste buds actually come back to life.


r/electronic_cigarette • • 7d ago

¿Conocen algún liquido para vapeador que si cumpla con buen sabor? NSFW

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Hace 9 años dejé de fumar, y este último año me propuse dejar de fumar, la herramienta que me sirvió fue el vapeador, y la verdad no me gusta la idea de que tenga que tirar un circuito por cada compra de un nuevo vapeador. Así que intenté con uno de un amigo y de una pequeña empresa que se dedica a la venta de vapeadores y liquidos para rellenarlos, intercambié algunos puffs con los amigos y ningun se acerca al menos al VHILL, uso un CALIBURN rellenable y fue la peor inversión que he hecho. Me gusta experimentar así que encontré la forma de rellenar el VHILL V12000 con el mejor líquido que encontré y el VHILL no hace que te pique la garganta a pesar de que no es su liquido, lo que si no se puede igualar es el sabor, mi favorito es ICE LUSH y es extremadamente dulce, incluso después de fumar sigo teniendo es buqué azucarado por un rato. Mi conclusión es que los descartables son tecnológicamente superiores, conllevan menos costo, mejor sabor y una mejor calada, así que después de "Hackear" el VHILL me gustaría encontrar un liquido que cumpla su función. Mi recomendación es que no se dejen llevar por la publicidad, la única justificación de tener un rellenable hasta ahora es que no desechas tanto material electrónico sin embargo, la vida es para disfrutar y me gusta mi filete de res, con cerveza y una buena calada


r/electronic_cigarette • • 7d ago

Blu Pods Tobacco Ice NSFW

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Anyone have recommendations on another brand that has a similar flavor to Blu Tobacco Ice? Blu products are being discontinued. TIA


r/electronic_cigarette • • 9d ago

Battery Safety Brand new Argus P2 battery draining ~1% per puff (70% to 20%) – Normal calibration issue? NSFW

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Hey everyone,

I just bought a new VOOPOO Argus P2 today, and I'm noticing a weird battery drain issue.

Between 70% and 20%, the battery percentage drops extremely fast — basically about 1% for every single puff. I've only charged it once so far since unboxing it.

Is this just an uncalibrated BMS/battery that needs a few full charge-discharge cycles to fix itself, or did I get a defective unit? Has anyone else seen this happen with a fresh Argus P2?

Thanks in advance!