My feet are between E-2E volume, but broad (fan shaped), low arch, low instep narrow heel, both feet supinate.
Toeboxes on 2E: Ghost, Ghost Max, Glycerin, 1080, 680, More, Echelon, Ride, Triumphs,wave rider, wave sky, Torin's are uncomfortabley snug when I just stand crush my toes when I walk/run. Asics Same sensation on 4E and ½ size up on Cumulus/Nimbus
When I step ,big toe pushed into 2nd toe,punky toe forced to curl in when I take a step.
The 4E Brooks are big everywhere. 4E Echelon, 1080, 680, Morre, (old vers.) 880, are are snug at the big toe & pinky toe huge everywhere else. (Adding 4mm heel lifts, felt tongue pad, heel grip runners lock is painful, still sloppy)
So far: 2E Topo's dont hurt my toes but heel, midfoot, and the back ⅓ of my heel hang past the midsole.
Cliftons are totally wrong for supinating feet. But the 2E toe box fits fine and volume is pretty close
TLDR clifton 11 toe boxes are smaller, more tapered than other brands
Im trying to figure out what Clifton does differently (is it fabric stretch, shape, actual width, extra height etc).
AFAIK 2E cliftons have 8mm larger circumference uppers most other brand's 2Es add 6mm to the circumference of the uppers. That 2mm doesnt make up for the smaller D size.