I’ve been running a Dragon UHF (with the UHF adapter) for quite a while and am intimately familiar with heat creep issues if you don’t have proper cooling. This machine is almost entirely ASA/ABS printing, occasionally PCTG or PC.
About a month ago I switched to AntHead from XoL to test it out before committing to it for a StealthChanger build and it seems like I’ve had nothing but heat creep issues since.
I’m running a Berserker VINDR 2510 hotend fan on it running almost 20k RPM, rated at about 5.8 CFM.
This fan was more than enough with the XoL, even at 55C chamber temps and 110C build plate temps.
Has anyone else run into this? Is there anything else I should be looking at? I’ve verified my thermistor readings and even switched thermistors. I even switched in a brand new backup Dragon hotend. I’ve done cold pulls, run cleaning filament through, changed nozzles to new clean ones. Cartographer is fully calibrated and repeatable.
It shows up for me under two conditions:
- This is the primary condition, if I have a long, slow first layer I will see clogging before the end of it. Even with a plate temp at like 100C. By long, I’d say about 5+ minutes.
- Similarly, a few hours into a print where it is slowed down for a while for overhangs, curled perimeters, or a large top surface.
Even on a multi-hour print if the speed stays upwards of at least 8mm^3/s or more it seems to be just fine. If it slows down for too long then I have issues.
Typical ASA settings: 260C first layer, 255C after. 20mm^3/s max flow rate, 80mm/s outer perimeters for quality, 105C bed temp.
Even lowering to 240C temp doesn’t seem to help, plus it requires lowering the max volumetric rate down to about 12mm^3/s or it start skipping.
Extruder: Sherpa Mini (with Fystec CNC parts)
Toolhead board: EBB36 gen2 (over CAN)
Nozzle: 0.4 (or 0.5) Undertaker all tungsten v6
ETA: Part cooling fan settings.
- Off for the first 5 layers
- Max 25% under 30s layer, also slow down for short layers
- Bridges 80%
- Overhangs vary up to 60% and slow down
- Fans are not set to always be on, they will turn off. They will blip high briefly to prevent stall when turning on.
- The hotend has the silicone sock on it and I’ve checked the parts fan ducts to make sure they’re not aimed directly at the nozzle over cooling it.
UPDATE:
After a good idea to remove the front grill, things seem to be going better. No hotend clogs, long first layer with 110C build plate and 55C chamber.
The changes I made:
- Completely removed the center grill section
- Speed up first layer infill to 40mm/s from 20mm/s to get done with the first layer faster
- Double checked clean wiring and airflow out the back when reassembling the hotend, I don’t think I really changed anything
UPDATE #2:
Still having heat creep, it just takes a bit longer.
- Completely tore the toolhead apart and actually turned the hotend "sideways" so that the heater cartridge wires come off the side, through the back and totally opened up the airflow pathway.
- Tested with multiple different colors/brands of ASA
- Tested with nozzle temps of 260 and 250C, bed temps of 110, 105, and 100C
- Chamber temps between 52 - 55C. If I can keep the chamber temp right around 48-50C it seems to be better, but then I'm fighting warping
- At 53C chamber temp, 105C bed, and 250C hotend temp it takes about 15 minutes until creep kicks in.