Stabilized video showing a distinct dark cube within a clear sphere, exactly matching testimony from the 2023 congressional hearing

[u/Ordinary_Salamander]

This video was filmed on Nov 28, 2023 in Tonna, a Village in Neath, Wales, UK. Four month earlier, in the USA, a congressional hearing was held where sworn testimony was given describing a “dark cube within a clear sphere” seen by fighter pilots while on training exercises in a controlled airspace. This is one of the rarer UAP morphologies, although there are reports dating back to 1960 describing this exact object.

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[u/0-0SleeperKoo]

This is a very interesting capture. The cube shape can be clearly seen.

[u/ilackinspiration → u/0-0SleeperKoo]

Very cool. This is exactly what Ryan Graves testified that he and his wingman saw on a routine training exercise over the atlantic.

[u/Pleasant-Put5305 → u/ilackinspiration]

Yep, seems to tally. Oh boy.

[u/DJGammaRabbit]

What the hell is even that

[u/Kwontum7 → u/DJGammaRabbit]

Daddy chill

[u/jamesisanalien]

What on earth?!

[u/comment-rinse → u/jamesisanalien]

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[u/Bluejay1981]

The same phenomenon was observed extremely close to a French jet, and the account went into a report compiled by a couple of French generals and many other officers contributing. It’s only available in French. I believe it was released around 1998 or shortly thereafter. I forget when Ryan Graves described UAP is with the same appearance, 2013? It was obviously no coincidence but the same craft being operated in Europe and off the east coast of the United States in the Navy’s designated grounds for training/pre-deployment Work ups.

[u/Left-Resource1039]

So the cube box from Dark Matter is real!? 🤯😆

[u/OSI-NRO-OGA]

It honestly looks like it could be just a digital sensor artifacting an out of focus moon. Do we have any testimony attached to this sighting?

[u/OldmanThyme → u/OSI-NRO-OGA]

Its a Radar reflector from either St Athan or Pembrey sands, the two MoD sites that are near by, it looks exactly like the ones they use there. Take a look at any image of these RR's they are literally a cube in a sphere.

[u/Neurodiuniverse11]

Honestly, when will we stop getting clips of distant point sources of light, zoomed in without proper focusing, so that it looks like its shape shifting and/or taking on unusual forms?

I could take 1000 clips like this every single night

[u/Ordinary_Salamander → u/Neurodiuniverse11]

you should do it - think of all the updoots you’d get!

[u/somebob]

Is this Gruschs sentient plasmoid life? Or are the drone things self-configuring?

[u/liggydd]

i am your friend cubey sphere

[u/Campandfish1]

We had a partial lunar eclipse towards the end of August. I tried to take some pictures and video with my Samsung phone. I didn't change my default app camera settings, and it kept trying to "fill in" the missing bits to try to make the moon a circle. 

I deleted the pictures/videos because they were garbage, but it sort of looked a little bit like this when the camera was trying to resolve an image it couldn't quite see. 

[u/MooseCannon]

Bokeh. It’s always bokeh.

[u/Objective_Frame8397 → u/MooseCannon]

Can you add some context to your statement? Because that's not how I understand bokeh to be. 

I love photography, and learned that bokeh is when you purposely have part of the image you're taking to be blurred.

Edit: spelling 

[u/MooseCannon → u/Objective_Frame8397]

Sure, since I’m being downvoted to oblivion, I may as well substantiate what is happening here.

I’m an astronomer, so I know this world well, and achieving optimal focus is something that a lot of astronomers struggle with. The issue is that you are essentially trying to move your focal plane to a point where a point light source is as sharp as it can be for telescopes. They actually make a filter specifically for this purpose, which allows you to achieve optimal focus at the highest magnification.

I think it’s important to appreciate what you’re actually trying to do. Every lens has a focal plane; It has a fixed position in space where the lens converges and the image becomes as bright and as contrasted as it can be. This is what focus essentially is. Modern cameras are terrible at this. They often utilise contrast to actually establish the focus position. Now you might think this would be easy, simply turn your telescope to an infinite position and everything will be in focus, but they can actually move further than that. And so achieving infinity focus requires a very very high zoom in order to reduce the point light down to its smallest position. Now this brings me to the image that you’re seeing here. This is what A star looks like when it’s out of focus. It is a smeared disc, usually homogenous.

Now, the artefacts that you’re seeing on top of that image exist in the photon path between the star and you, and it could be any number of things. It could be part of your camera lens assembly, the aperture blades. It could be things like electricity cables. It could be ice particles in the air. It could be air turbulence, which is what gives stars their twinkle and is the reason you can see this image moving in the first place. the geometric pattern suggest some low quality optics, like a square aperture assembly, that is just being captured through the out of focus blob. Often the internal arrangement of the lenses is what creates the noise that you see within a bokeh. You are literally seeing the arrangement of coatings, and dust and hair etc.

One way to actually test if this is poker or not is to cut out a picture of a shape, something like a Christmas tree or a star, and place that cutout in front of the lens. What it will actually do is shape the poker to that particular shape. The reason that all of these things are orbs is because generally camera lenses are spherical, so you get around smearing. But if I was to stick a mask of a chipmunk in front of my camera, everything would be chipmunk shaped and suddenly we would have chipmunk UFOs flying everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHQMHMJNz2k&t=631

[u/BadOmen379 → u/MooseCannon]

I appreciate when people that actually know what they are looking at and talking about can give detailed explainations of what we are seeing and why. Thanks for taking the time.

[u/Objective_Frame8397 → u/MooseCannon]

Thank you for such a detailed explanation. You taught me a few things. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with you. I'd have to do more research, but your explanation does makes sense.

Edit: spelling (again 😔)

[u/MooseCannon → u/Objective_Frame8397]

do you have a manual focus camera? happy to run you through it

[u/0-0SleeperKoo → u/MooseCannon]

No, it is not always bokeh.

[u/MooseCannon → u/0-0SleeperKoo]

Please don’t get me wrong, I find a lot of videos fascinating and completely unexplainable, but when I see videos like this, I see people that don’t know how to photograph objects in the sky. They don’t know how autofocus works or manual focus. They almost certainly don’t own the appropriate hardware for achieving proper focus, so what they do is they zoom in on an outer focus object and then try to rely on the camera’s inbuilt sharpening techniques to establish some form of structure when nothing exists other than simply seeing the internal arrangements of the lens. You really need a good understanding of optics to understand this, cause it doesn’t make a ton of sense why I would see the details of my own lens in an object so far away until you realise what a focal plane is.

[u/0-0SleeperKoo → u/MooseCannon]

If that is the explanation, show me an example, in a similar setting, to the video posted here, with a black cube in a sphere.

Thanks!

[u/MooseCannon → u/0-0SleeperKoo]

If you can tell me the exact type of lens being used there, I probably could find you exactly that. It would basically involve me taking an out of focus shot of a star or a plane, any point light, but the specific bokeh comes from a specific lens. This is well known amongst photographers.

[u/0-0SleeperKoo → u/MooseCannon]

If it is all that well known, then simply prove it with a similar image. Words on this matter can only go so far.

Thanks!

[u/MooseCannon → u/0-0SleeperKoo]

read this dude, or better yet, go try and take a picture of a star tonight with your SLR. would love to see it https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hasznv/a_nonprofessional_guide_on_the_basics_of_how/

[u/0-0SleeperKoo → u/MooseCannon]

If you say this image in this post is bokeh, then you need to prove it with a similar image, else the debunk is paper thin.

You haven't been able to, so I'm now thinking you are unable to reproduce it.

Thanks for your time!

[u/MooseCannon → u/0-0SleeperKoo]

I can see you're not interested in being convinced. All good. you do you.

EDIT: or how about this. You and me. we jump on a call and I'll show you myself. I'm serious. Looking at your edit history, you seem very into the subject. I'm sure it'd be important for you to be able to tell the difference between something in focus and out of focus. DM me.

[u/0-0SleeperKoo → u/MooseCannon]

How about you just produce a similar image with a cube inside a sphere.

I'm not trying to be difficult, but you said it was bokeh, so, if true, you should be able to reproduce it - I don't need to be brow beaten with words. As I said, words only go so far. If you want to debunk this video, then you have a simple way to do it. Post a similar video here.

[u/MooseCannon → u/0-0SleeperKoo]

like I said, its a pretty well known effect

http://www.weasner.com/co/Reviews/2015/Star_Testing_Astro_Telescopes/index.html

[u/MooseCannon → u/0-0SleeperKoo]

or read this? someone even mentions the square hole https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Fstargazerslounge.com%2Ftopic%2F111036-my-imaging-nightmare-time-to-throw-in-the-towel%2Fpage%2F2%2F&ved=0CBoQ3YkBahcKEwi4hemJyKqXAxUAAAAAHQAAAAAQbg&opi=89978449

[u/VeryThicknLong → u/MooseCannon]

Do you think the person who shot it saw something strange first, and then started filming it out of curiosity… or were they just filming a night sky for shits and gigs?

[u/MooseCannon → u/VeryThicknLong]

I mean, there are thousands of amateur astronomers taking pictures of stars every night. for shits and giggles. it's not the craziest theory. I suspect when they started zooming in and the camera was unable to focus any more they thought they were seeing something super interesting. they were just sharpening a blur though.

[u/C-LonGy]

NEW EVIDENCE, UNDISPUTED.

Look it’s a ghost, a ufo, aliens! Lizard people!

https://giphy.com/gifs/w0vFxYaCcvvJm

[u/OldmanThyme]

Radar reflector from either St Athan or Pembrey sands.

[u/ccarlo42 → u/OldmanThyme]

why is this so downvoted?

[u/OldmanThyme → u/ccarlo42]

Because logic, how could it possibly be one of the RR that looks exactly like a cube in a sphere (Google image search if you want to see what these look like) from one of the 2 nearby MoD bases, it's obviously an object created by a non human intelligence...

[u/ccarlo42 → u/OldmanThyme]

100%

[u/Jane_Doe_32 → u/ccarlo42]

One reason may be that both St. Athan and Pembrey are more than 40 km from Neath.

[u/ccarlo42 → u/Jane_Doe_32]

you know planes drop those radar reflectors right? And that planes can fly just a scooch over 40km.

[u/Jane_Doe_32 → u/ccarlo42]

If they’re frequently released over Neath, people ought to be used to seeing them all the time, so why post this?

[u/ccarlo42 → u/Jane_Doe_32]

yeah people don't post mundane things every single day or anything

[u/OldmanThyme → u/Jane_Doe_32]

Because the person filming it in 2003 thought it looked unusual.

[u/Jane_Doe_32 → u/OldmanThyme]

According to you and the other user, it’s something quite common that happens all the time in that area... so why would it be surprising?