r/TopCharacterTropes • • 11d ago

Hated Tropes (Hated trope) Remember all these stories and characters we followed for so long? Welp now it’s all reset.

1: using another flashpoint to create the tomorrowverse (Justice League Dark: Apokolips war) after 80-90% of the cast is killed off and billions lives are fated to die Flash and Constantine hatch up a plan to kill baby Darkseid to prevent the entire story from happening which just leads to an entirely different universe being formed and even erasing some characters from existence.

2: Jim travelling to the beginning (Tales of Arcadia series) after multiple characters die including Toby Jim uses a magic gem to travel back to the very first episode but instead lets Toby find the amulet… this changes things how?

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u/I_hate_myself069 11d ago

Small correction, but Stone Ocean’s reset isn’t a complete reset. The universe only charged in one way: ‘What if Enrico Pucci never existed?’. So in the new timeline, only main cast of Part 6 are different, since all of their lives were severely impacted by Pucci. Everyone else should be more or less the same. Except Jotaro, who didn’t get divorced and had better work-life balance, since most of Dio’s former minions worked for Pucci.

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u/nobadabing 11d ago

There’s been no allusion to the Irene-verse in the new continuity, so everything Steel Ball Run-onwards is probably a different continuity until proven otherwise

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u/I_hate_myself069 11d ago

Yeah??? Irene-verse isn’t related to SBR verse, we already knew that. This post is about universe resets. Which did happen at SO’s end. So I mentioned it.

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u/Neveed 11d ago edited 11d ago

That means that all the following parts do not take place in the same timeline we see at the end of Stone Ocean.

Because SBR and Jojolion are clearly not just the same world without Pucci. Especially SBR which occurs before Pucci is even supposed to be born and is what takes place instead of the events of Phantom Blood.

But then it's weird and confusing that Araki ends part 6 with an universe reboot leading to an alternative history, and starts part 7 with a different, unrelated universe reboot with a different alternative history.

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u/MrAuster 11d ago

SBR was intended to be another thing unrelated to JoJo's, but Araki changes his mind and made SBR the seventh part of JoJo's

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u/schrelaxo 10d ago

No it wasnt.

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u/karateema 11d ago

That was always the case

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u/Cal-Eats-Rocks 11d ago

I misunderstood that ending. I could’ve sworn that the difference with the new universe was that the jojo curse was nonexistent and that’s why the names were different (Jolyne’s name not fitting the Jojo naming convention) showing that the bloodline won’t be fated to fight some bizarre vampire or other threat.

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u/I_hate_myself069 11d ago

That bit about Irene not being JoJo is correct, but other JoJos still exist. Since DIO would’ve done his bullshit even if Pucci wasn’t around.

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u/Cal-Eats-Rocks 11d ago

I think I like this more than what I had interpreted. The jojo curse was broken rather than never existing in the first place. That’s a better ending I think

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u/CollectionMammoth304 11d ago

Yeah but it still kinda invalidates like 99.99% of part 6 and yet nobody complains because of how well its handled

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u/Fireflyholylight 11d ago

Only parts 1-5 happen with the ending of 6 being the end of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventures due to Jolene being renamed Irene :D In series 2 we get horses, fruit, and robbery yay

Part 10 never