r/TopCharacterTropes • • 11d ago

Hated Tropes (Hated trope) Remember all these stories and characters we followed for so long? Welp now it’s all reset.

1: using another flashpoint to create the tomorrowverse (Justice League Dark: Apokolips war) after 80-90% of the cast is killed off and billions lives are fated to die Flash and Constantine hatch up a plan to kill baby Darkseid to prevent the entire story from happening which just leads to an entirely different universe being formed and even erasing some characters from existence.

2: Jim travelling to the beginning (Tales of Arcadia series) after multiple characters die including Toby Jim uses a magic gem to travel back to the very first episode but instead lets Toby find the amulet… this changes things how?

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u/RoseWhiteRedBlack 11d ago edited 11d ago

They actually had a plan, from waht the people behind the scenes said. S2 was going to be a build up season for S3 and 4 to deliver on the content of the books that Pratched had in mind as sequel. Instead they basicaly had to cancel 2 whole seasons and make a new ending because of Gaiman stuff.

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u/Low_Key_2827 11d ago

The plan as explained after season 2 aired was three seasons of six episodes (666 joke). The third season got smushed down into one finale, but this ending is reportedly where Gaiman was intending to go. According to him this was the long planned ending. According to the Pratchett estate, that’s not true. They suggested a different ending to fit with season 3, but Amazon shot them down

I’m inclined to believe Gaiman heavily exaggerated how much of a sequel had actually been planned to get more support for making more seasons. When season 1 first aired he was adamant they’d only make one season because there was one book. He switched that line only after the show made a lot of money.

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u/endlesscartwheels 11d ago

In a just universe, Terry Pratchett would have been the one who lived, rather than Neil Gaiman.

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u/Green_Borenet 11d ago

Pratchett was very clear his wishes were for nothing to be made from his unfinished works after his death to the point he left instructions for his computer hard drive containing all his notes and drafts to be destroyed by a steamroller.

No matter how Gaiman or Amazon might have tried to spin it it making sequels was against Pratchett's wishes (and tbh if you look on it in hindsight its rather suspect given the friendship Gaiman claims to have had with Pratchett that he would go against them)

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u/Higgins1st 11d ago

And now the lawsuits were dismissed, so we don't even know if he is guilty or not.

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u/velawesomeraptors 11d ago

Totally anecdotal, but I know one of his victims. Her story at least is real.

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u/Deeeeesme 10d ago

There was never a definite planned sequel. They batted around a few ideas, but that was it. Pratchett later said they had both talked about a sequel, but then they both realized they didn't want to do it. They did both say where Aziraphale and Crowley end up, in a cottage in the South Downs.

The finale completely rewrites and changes that. And it was all NG and his friends. Rob Wilkins, who runs the Pratchett Estate, has said the ending is not what Terry wanted. They tried to change it, but Amazon wouldn't let them.