(Hated trope) Remember all these stories and characters we followed for so long? Welp now it’s all reset.

[u/FullBrother9300]

1: using another flashpoint to create the tomorrowverse (Justice League Dark: Apokolips war) after 80-90% of the cast is killed off and billions lives are fated to die Flash and Constantine hatch up a plan to kill baby Darkseid to prevent the entire story from happening which just leads to an entirely different universe being formed and even erasing some characters from existence.

2: Jim travelling to the beginning (Tales of Arcadia series) after multiple characters die including Toby Jim uses a magic gem to travel back to the very first episode but instead lets Toby find the amulet… this changes things how?

[u/WagyuWarranted]

I get bad endings usually have meaning behind them... BUT IF THAT'S SO, WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THAT

[u/Helpful-Young-6473 → u/WagyuWarranted]

4 seasons of the characters growth, healing, dealing with their shared trauma and abuse etc etc , just for the end message to be they never should have existed in the first place and they should just fucking die 😂

[u/KingPenguinPhoenix → u/Helpful-Young-6473]

And the world literally got better without them in it 😂😭

[u/Infinite_T05 → u/KingPenguinPhoenix]

Literally all the villains became good people living healthy lives without them apparently

[u/karlothecool → u/Infinite_T05]

Did writers just hate the fans or they were on drugs

[u/WagyuWarranted → u/karlothecool]

i bet it's complete delusions

[u/No_Internal9345 → u/WagyuWarranted]

Steve Blackman shit the bed.

[u/IamScottGable → u/KingPenguinPhoenix]

I may be misremembering but didn't they show marigold flowers at the end so it was still possible for them to come to be? Meaning what they did was for nothing

[u/KingPenguinPhoenix → u/IamScottGable]

The marigold flowers were just a reference to them since they were born from marigold the alien material.

In the new universe, all the alien marigold was wiped from existence so it would be impossible for the Umbrella siblings to be born again.

[u/Homersapien69 → u/KingPenguinPhoenix]

I can’t believe I wasted watching 4 seasons just for that ending

[u/Dumeck → u/Helpful-Young-6473]

Well let's be real 4 seasons of healing followed by extreme back tracking on said healing and character assassination.

[u/deltamissfit → u/WagyuWarranted]

The only message they could possibly have with that finale is

“If you don’t fit in you should just die”

It’s fucking ridiculous.

[u/TrivialCoyote → u/WagyuWarranted]

Additional what did they "mean by that" by having the only living remaining gay and trans characters of the show killing themselves too.