r/TopCharacterTropes • • Jul 18 '26

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) The series is good, but the beginning is so embarrassing that many people give up there.

Dan Da Dan

The beginning of Dan Da Dan is notorious for starting with aliens trying to impregnate Momo in the first episode; however, despite such over-the-top moments, the rest of the series doesn't feature many scenes like that

Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san

Despite a premise that is off-putting—given that the girl bullies her romantic partner to the point of making Naoto cry early in the series—their relationship evolves beautifully; the teasing becomes less cruel over time, eventually turning into a rather sweet romance

Uma Musume Pretty Derby

Someone on the production team had the audacity to have the trainer start meeting up with Special Week like that—even though, in reality, he is a good trainer who doesn't usually treat the girls that way.

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u/Electrical-Sense-160 Jul 18 '26

Whoa, you can't just drop that last factoid without listening any examples.

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u/Tyr_13 Jul 18 '26

This was like a decade ago and I'm struggling to remember the details of the examples I was given. One was something about character design, some common element that an artist just thought was a common American thing.

I want to say another was (semi) emancipated minors, like how you'll see fourteen year olds just living on their own in apartments with no supervision. Which, while it does happen sometimes in Japan and the US, was thought to be a fairly normal thing in the US so kids could go to the 'good high school.' The 'good high school' that you choose to go to and have to test into is a thing in Japan, but US is almost entirely geographically based. Some mangaka got confused and thought something like boarding school was common. I want to say that, but it doesn't feel correct.

I'll have to ask some of the other performers if they remember, but I was the only one who actually got into anime and Manga in the troop.

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u/darkmuch Jul 18 '26

I feel like boarding school is more common from older british derived novels.

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u/Tyr_13 Jul 18 '26

Right, but the way it is done in anime/manga isn't actually like boarding schools most of the time, and not what, I was told, they thought happened in the US with some regularity.

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u/Draconuus95 Jul 18 '26

Huh. I had wondered where that trope had come from. It’s definitely a pretty regular thing to see some highschooler living on their own in a lot of anime’s.

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u/Nick_Nisshoku Jul 18 '26

One I can think of off the top of my head is specific English phrases used as a "one-to-one" for a Japanese one that while it conveys it's at best a bit awkward and at worst really clunky. Japanese people assume they're perfect go-to phrasings that Americans use all the time, and it's turned into just "how manga characters sound"

「…ってことか」"Is this what they call..." (Something that works but in various situations feels kind of weird, like it isn't something you hear in character dialogue. Bonus points if the 2 character japanese word being asked about is written in English as a lengthy concept

「なので/だから」 ", so" (the logical sequencing of so is used so excessively it begins to feel uncanny. "I'm going to the train station, so I will need to leave soon." It almost sounds like dialogues for an English lesson, which would be why Japanese old farts like it, may be their only exposure)

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u/Tyr_13 Jul 18 '26

Oh memory triggered! One line director for English dubs had to fight to change your last example to 'so,' because someone from the owning company insisted that 'thus' was the correct construction for the feeling the character gives. Said character was not a professor or scientist, nor did they use old time dialects. The line director pushed back to the translator to drop it into a more natural, and better for the 'flaps' (animation of the mouth moving), comma. The translator was able to get the ok for the compromised 'so.'