r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • Sep 09 '26

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Mamdani's ex-rival comes to his defense.

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u/Rude-Orange Sep 09 '26

I knew a couple folks that refused to vote for Harris and are now malding over Trump like there was some magical third option.

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u/ZAlternates Sep 09 '26

Yeah and when asked about it, they are adamant it would have been worse under Harris.

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u/ABSNegativeOne Sep 09 '26

Is that what they argue? Or is it they didn't have faith she would be able to get anything done anyway

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u/SilverWear5467 Sep 09 '26

Well lets see, we keep doing the thing the dems insist will work eventually, voting for the lesser evil, and candidates on both sides just keep getting more evil. Huh, do you think maybe we should stop believing the dems now that it hasnt worked for 50 years straight?

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u/OhItsBeenBroughten Sep 09 '26

I am getting so sick of “Baby’s First Election.” Grow up.

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u/SilverWear5467 Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26

You seem to have misunderstood, I am the one thinking about elections holistically, not you. I'm the one saying we need to quit falling for the same exact trick our grandfather's fell for.

Quit telling people that things can't get better.

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u/OhItsBeenBroughten Sep 09 '26

You want to let me know what your solution is if Democrats - most of who nationwide are SocDems at best - choose someone you disapprove of in the primaries?

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u/SilverWear5467 Sep 09 '26

Well it depends, now doesn't it? If they nominate Adolf Hitler, I would hope anybody with a brain would refuse to vote for him. And no, im not going to vote for Donald trump in that case, because you don't give fascists legitimacy by engaging in rigged elections. Which a choice of 2 fascists very clearly IS. I went in to 2024 planning to vote for Harris, I liked her in 2020. But you dont get to run a campaign centered on Dick Cheney, genocide, and "nothing will fundamentally change", and still get my vote.

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u/Rude-Orange Sep 09 '26

Since 1976 it's been D, R, R, R, D, D, R, D, D, R, D, R

where are the 50 straight years of dems?

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u/Mr_Byzantine Sep 09 '26

There hasn't been, it's been a ratchet to the right for 5 decades.

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u/SilverWear5467 Sep 09 '26

Its been 50 years of dems saying "we swear we want to move left, but unfortunately this particular guy is so bad, we're gonna have to move to the right again". Followed by some bullshit about a made up moderate voter. The reality has always been that the way for dems to win is by moving left, into populist issues like M4A. That's how Obama won, after all.

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u/Rude-Orange Sep 09 '26

I suppose you're right. Trump and Harris were basically two sides of the same coin

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u/SilverWear5467 Sep 09 '26

Is that at all what I said though? Try reading it again.